What do folks here do with their carry gun when they have to go into a post office?

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Triggernosis said:
Why does it matter what you do with it? I've never seen a security guard frisk people as they were entering a Post Office.
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Generally I believe we are to follow the law regardless of whether we expect enforcement. Stop at stop signs even a 2am when there is not another car within 100 miles. Stop before making a right turn even if there is no other traffic. Drive at or below the speed limit. ...
 
WheelGunMan said:
I knew they were illegal to carry into a post office but was unaware that they were illegal in the USPS parking lot.
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Yup, and you were in the majority up until you read this thread. That's why I'm curious if anyone here knows of anyone being charged with this. Just because something is a law doesn't mean that it's actually enforced.
 
jar said:
Generally I believe we are to follow the law regardless of whether we expect enforcement. Stop at stop signs even a 2am when there is not another car within 100 miles. Stop before making a right turn even if there is no other traffic. Drive at or below the speed limit. ...
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Generally? What are the exceptions?
 
jar said:
Generally I believe we are to follow the law regardless of whether we expect enforcement.
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Right on, brother. :thumbup:


jar said:
Stop at stop signs even a 2am when there is not another car within 100 miles. Stop before making a right turn even if there is no other traffic. Drive at or below the speed limit. ...
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What is this foreign language you speak?
:D
 
Triggernosis said:
Why does it matter what you do with it? I've never seen a security guard frisk people as they were entering a Post Office.
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The answer is : In the unlikely - however unlikely - event that you get caught , the penalties for being armed in a federal building could be severely not funny.
Someone else in the place causes an incident resulting in the cops arriving ... bomb threat ... you slip on a banana peel , face plant , and your gun skitters across the floor --- unlikely yes - but it could really bite you in the butt.
Why take on the feds?
 
bearcreek said:
Generally? What are the exceptions?
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I'm sure there must be some exceptions. A good example is when you intentionally break an unjust law in a safe and peaceful manner understanding you will face the consequences. Like drinking from the wrong fountain or sitting at the counter for lunch or sitting in the front of the bus ...
 
jar said:
I'm sure there must be some exceptions. A good example is when you intentionally break an unjust law in a safe and peaceful manner understanding you will face the consequences. Like drinking from the wrong fountain or sitting at the counter for lunch or sitting in the front of the bus ...
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And why is bearing arms in a post office different than those things?
 
bearcreek said:
Carrying a gun is pointless everywhere until you need one.
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If you believe that the law is unjust, then yes, openly carry your gun into the Post Office. BUT carrying a gun concealed into a Post Office is simply illegal and cowardly. By concealing what you are doing you are not protesting an unjust law your are simply breaking the law.
 
bearcreek said:
And why is bearing arms in a post office different than those things?
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Simple.

Because drinking from the wrong side of the drinking fountain isn't a federal felony.

Life is about risk management. What the rewards and what the consequences are associated with the risk is largely how decisions are made.


Comparing drinking fountain violations vs federal crimes is ludicrous, imo.

Sure, the chances of being caught may be similar but the consequences are in different universes.
 
jar said:
If you believe that the law is unjust, then yes, openly carry your gun into the Post Office. BUT carrying a gun concealed into a Post Office is simply illegal and cowardly. By concealing what you are doing you are not protesting an unjust law your are simply breaking the law.
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Open carry in town is stupid on a tactical level, so I don't do it, nor do I intend to start. So what you're saying is that if an American of African descent in the 1950's had snuck a drink from the wrong fountain without anyone seeing it that they were a coward and were "simply breaking the law"?
 
bearcreek said:
Open carry in town is stupid on a tactical level, so I don't do it, nor do I intend to start. So what you're saying is that if an American of African descent in the 1950's had snuck a drink from the wrong fountain without anyone seeing it that they were a coward and were "simply breaking the law"?
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No. He's saying if you think that prohibiting carry in a post office is an unjust law but all you do is hide your gun you are a coward who is simply breaking the law.

Have the courage of your convictions man. Go be the test case go get arrested for carrying in the post office so that you have standing to sue to get the law overturned
 
danez71 said:
Life is about risk management. What the rewards and what the consequences are associated with the risk is largely how decisions are made.
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True. So, I'll ask again. Has anyone ever been charged with carrying in a post office when the charge wasn't connected to some other crime? I've asked this question several times before on this forum and others over the years and have yet to get an answer. That and the fact that people are regularly observed carrying in post offices around the country leads me to think that more than likely the risk is extremely low.
 
Trunk Monkey said:
No. He's saying if you think that prohibiting carry in a post office is an unjust law but all you do is hide your gun you are a coward who is simply breaking the law.

Have the courage of your convictions man. Go be the test case go get arrested for carrying in the post office so that you have standing to sue to get the law overturned
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Not everyone carries a gun all the time just to make a statement, just as people didn't always drink from the wrong fountain just to make a statement. Some people carry a gun just in case they need one. Some people drank from the wrong fountain just because they were thirsty.

Also, clearly you didn't read my previous post. I don't open carry.
 
Old Dog said:
In any case, I've never heard of, witnessed or responded to a report of someone illegally carrying a concealed firearm on U.S. Postal Service property or inside a post office. Not saying it doesn't happen ...
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I bet it happens A LOT, especially in rural communities.

I live in a very gun friendly place. I see people open carrying and I see printing on a normal basis, because it's kind of a fun game to figure out who's carrying and who isn't based on attire. Many people in my area, including myself, carry so often that it is second nature. I myself have accidentally walked into my local post office with a concealed gun on my person, because I'm just used to carrying. When I realized what I had done, I immediately turned around and went back to my vehicle, and removed my gun.

I know I could have easily conducted my business and left without anyone noticing, but I just won't risk it. Besides the possibility of being arrested/prosecuted, my career would be over when it came out what kind of trouble I'm in. That would pretty much ruin my life, and I'd have to start over. I'm not risking that, not for the very minimal amount of time I actually have to go into a post office. And that's with the qualifier that I live in a rural enough environment that I pick up my mail from a PO box.

I wonder if the same sorts of things happen in bigger urban areas with more people proportionately. I mean folks in an urban environment MAY be a little more used to no gun signs. However the proportionate number of people who ignore those signs would also be larger. The number of accidental absent minded violations would also be higher.

The law is the law, whether people agree with it or not. I recommend people follow it. Whether or not it's a just law is irrelevant, as it is a totally different topic. Breaking gun laws right now is not going to be productive for our cause in this country based on political posturing. Showing we are reasonable law abiding citizens may not either, but it's a lot easier to argue our points when the media isn't full of gun owners getting arrested for trying to walk into a Wal-Mart with an AR15.

Bo said:
I'm not going to comment of how many guns I've seen carried or otherwise on Postal Property.
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Why not? It's relevant to the discussion, if even in a tangential sort of way.
 
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