Is the Glock the best combat handgun of all time?

Is the Glock the best combat handgun of all time?


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Let's see what Glock brings to the table...
-Accuracy and reliability mostly on par with high end platforms (Sig P2XX/Beretta 92/S&W 3rd Gen/CZ75/85B)
- Poor ergonomics (grip shape, grip angle, small trigger guard opening [w/ trigger in ready-to-fire position], and finger grooves that don't fit a significant % of the population)
- A trigger that manages to combine the worst attributes of SA and DA systems.
- Blatant copying of the Iver Johnson trigger dingus while heralding it as "perfection".
- The finest marketing and sales campaign ever seen in firearms history, BY FAR...
 
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I have to admit, I'm duly impressed by the way Glock fans flock to any thread (on any forum) to immediately leap to the defense of Glock pistols.

Do you guys get some sort of alert (maybe by text or even telepathically -- pretty sure you get some kind of implant, right?) when someone posts something anywhere on the internet with the word Glock in it?
[I know us 1911 guys do]
 
Here’s some of my polymer frame, striker fire handguns. Yes, I have more.
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I bought more after the pic was taken. One that I bought was a S&W M&P M2.0 in FDE. I really love this gun and it’s a sweet shooter.
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Now my favorite semiautomatic handgun is the 1911. I have a few of them too.
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But who doesn’t love a HiPower.
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I think that the answer to what is the greater combat handgun would change if you picked a time in history. Hell, even then some would not agree.
WWII, I would pick the 1911A1
Civil War, Clot 1860 Army
But the truth is, most will never use a handgun in combat. Most of us carry one for self defense, and I think that all of us love to shoot them for the joy they bring us.
 
I have to admit, I'm duly impressed by the way Glock fans flock to any thread (on any forum) to immediately leap to the defense of Glock pistols.

Do you guys get some sort of alert (maybe by text or even telepathically -- pretty sure you get some kind of implant, right?) when someone posts something anywhere on the internet with the word Glock in it?
[I know us 1911 guys do]
The same could be said about Glock Heater. Just read .455_Hunter’s post just above yours. He’s making claims that seem to be based on his own feelings about Glocks. If his claims were true, not many people would be buying Glocks. Oh! The Gen5 Glocks don’t have finger groves.
But like I’ve said before, Glocks are not for everyone. That would be the same for just about every other gun on the market.
I wish that a bunch of y’all lived close by. We could all go to the range and have a great day shooting the guns we like best and trying out the ones that others like better. I would bring all my toys for y’all to play with. But if someone wants to shoot a Springfield XD, they will need to bring one.:)
 
I read comments like this a lot. There is the classic line, "you use your handgun to fight your way to your rifle". But in the real world I've never seen any evidence that a handgun is any less effective than a long gun when used at close range. Sure a rifle is easier to hit with at distance, but handgun rounds from 9mm on up seem to get the job done far more often than not. And sometimes even rifle rounds fail to stop threats.

Don't use any caliber that doesn't start with a "1"


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Glocks are fine, but far from perfect. In my time as a LEO firearms instructor I have seen numerous issues with Glocks such as sights falling off, recoil spring guide rods break, locking blocks shearing off, pins falling out, pins snapping in half, and the list goes on. Also saw issues with Sigs...they are man made machines, so are not perfect.

One of the Glock issues was cleaning...if the firing pin channel got gunked up the gun would not fire due to light or missing primer strikes from the firing pin.
 
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Anyway, to answer the question ...nope. Let's go with the handgun that's seen the most combat ... of all time.
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How much of that combat did it see from inside a holster?

Honest to God, my first battery commander (in the Guard) didn't even know what handgun (M9) he was issued. They gave it to him every month, he stuck it in his holster and roled.
 
I was a 13Bravo. We operated on the idea that if we ever needed even our rifles it was not a good day.

That said if I got recalled to active duty today and by some internet magic got to pick my own handgun I would actually pick a CZ75B. If it's good enough for Spetsnaz it's good enough for me
 
I have a Glock 17. It is a nice pistol and is fun to shoot. Is it better than some other 9x19 pistols that I have, not really. Is it worse, no. Do I carry it, no. I'd rather carry my HK P30SK LEM trigger.

But, I'm sure the Glock 19 serves our soldiers well as long as parts and service are available.

...and I'm a big fan of the 1911.
 
The 1911 is probably the best semi auto pistol ever built. But it takes a dedicated shooter to appreciate what a fine gun and round it is. The Glock is a good pistol for a shooter who is not as dedicated as the 1911 guys. But the easy parts availability and simple construction and easy to work on design make it very user friendly. And best of all you will most likely never need a part or have to work on it.

But thats true of most guns not used for competition. Is the Glock the best? Who really knows? but its darn good and has been for several decades. But the shooting world is full of good guns. You just have to get what makes you happy.
 
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I do not see a lot of Glock Haters, but do see a lot of People who just are ambivalent toward them. Not much feeling one way or the other about them. But many who do not agree with the Glock lovers that they are the best or other guns might be actually better are deemed and labeled as Glock haters for some reason.
Every single year, I keep reading what the fan boys say about them and gets me to thinking maybe I am wrong about them and will take one to the range and shoot against some of my other guns and I always leave not impressed and the urge to buy one will disappear until the next year when I try again.
But I have never left hating the Glock. That has never been the issue. Just not into them, nor are they a good fit nor do I believe they will out last other quality guns. I'm sorry, I wish I could say they are the best period, but just cannot force myself to do this.
The OP asked a question and it would seem it would be open to all to vote on and make a comment for other guns, but you have to be careful of posting. Hate is a powerful word. Again, I do not hate Glocks period.But I do think they are fine guns built with quality. And I think if someone were to purchase one, he would have a good gun which would last a life time just like many other fine guns. I guess that makes me a Glock Hater.
 
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I have to admit, I'm duly impressed by the way Glock fans flock to any thread (on any forum) to immediately leap to the defense of Glock pistols.

Do you guys get some sort of alert (maybe by text or even telepathically -- pretty sure you get some kind of implant, right?) when someone posts something anywhere on the internet with the word Glock in it?
[I know us 1911 guys do]

That’s pretty funny, considering, from my perspective, 1911 fans seem to do the same every time there’s a Glock thread. :rofl:
 
Is the Glock the best combat handgun of all time? I wouldn’t know. I have never been in combat with one...I have never been in armed combat.
I did carry and use 1911s in the US Navy. I was in the ship’s security force and destruct team. I carried the 1911 on watch. When ever we had a security situation the first thing I grabbed when I entered the Armory was a Remington 870, unless the duty officer or Chief made me take a 1911.

If I were in the Navy now and I had a choice between a Glock and a 1911? I wouldn’t hesitate to take the Glock and I would take it over the Remington as well. That being said, I would also take the Beretta 92 or the Sig M17 or M18 over the 1911. Hell, I would take the S&W M&P .38 over the 1911s that we had aboard my ship and at the bases I was stationed at.

Truth, not words to create drama. My opinion. That and $2.50 will get you a small black coffee at Starbucks.
 
For me and the guys I worked with they are. Vast improvement over our previous pistol in reliability, service life, replacement of sights, general maintenance requirements, and ease of use/training.
 
The Glock is a good pistol for a shooter who is not as dedicated as the 1911 guys.
I disagree. Id say they are the same, and they, and all the others, require the same from you if you want to be good with them.

They all have their idiosyncrasies and minor annoyances, but assuming you have a proper version of the gun (this is directed mostly at the 1911's and somewhat to the Glocks) they all work.

"Proper" versions of the two exceptions above are guns that are built to factory specs, and as originally issued.

The 1911's cant really fit here, unless they are Colts or USGI guns. The bane of the 1911 is, it became popular, and like a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy on a photocopier, things dont do so well down the road.

Box stock Glocks are a lot more reliable then the "improved" versions. Of course, everyone seems to think they know better and they have a credit card and access to the plethora of places on the web, that can help them screw up a good thing. Just like the 1911.

I do not see a lot of Glock Haters, but do see a lot of People who just are ambivalent toward them. Not much feeling one way or the other about them. But many who do not agree with the Glock lovers that they are the best or other guns might be actually better are deemed and labeled as Glock haters for some reason.
Every single year, I keep reading what the fan boys say about them and gets me to thinking maybe I am wrong about them and will take one to the range and shoot against some of my other guns and I always leave not impressed and the urge to buy one will disappear until the next year when I try again.
But I have never left hating the Glock. That has never been the issue. Just not into them, nor are they a good fit nor do I believe they will out last other quality guns. I'm sorry, I wish I could say they are the best period, but just cannot force myself to do this.
The OP asked a question and it would seem it would be open to all to vote on and make a comment for other guns, but you have to be careful of posting. Hate is a powerful word. Again, I do not hate Glocks period.But I do think they are fine guns built with quality. And I think if someone were to purchase one, he would have a good gun which would last a life time just like many other fine guns. I guess that makes me a Glock Hater.
I have or have had at some point, most of the major brands and types of handguns out there. I still shoot a bunch of them on a weekly basis too.

The only ones I really dont like, and no longer have, are the guns that dont work or were very problematical or finicky.

I think whats really going on here is, a lot of people just dont have a lot of actual experience with much at all (and in many cases, even what they have), and really just dont know. Its inexperience and a lacking on their part more than its a problem with any of the guns.

I think if you bothered to spend some time with each, and actualy learned the gun, you probably wouldnt find much wrong with all of them, and of course, youll likely settle on one or two you like the best. Doesnt mean theres anything wrong with the others, and that they arent serviceable.

You always hear people bitch about the silly little things that really dont mean anything, like grip angle or trigger types, etc. If people actually spent some real quality time with any of them, I think they would have a totally different outlook on them, and there would be a lot less bitching.

And, as with most things, the biggest problem will always surface in the end, and its not the gun. :thumbup:
 
Is the Glock the best combat handgun of all time? I wouldn’t know. I have never been in combat with one...I have never been in armed combat.
I did carry and use 1911s in the US Navy. I was in the ship’s security force and destruct team. I carried the 1911 on watch. When ever we had a security situation the first thing I grabbed when I entered the Armory was a Remington 870, unless the duty officer or Chief made me take a 1911.

If I were in the Navy now and I had a choice between a Glock and a 1911? I wouldn’t hesitate to take the Glock and I would take it over the Remington as well. That being said, I would also take the Beretta 92 or the Sig M17 or M18 over the 1911. Hell, I would take the S&W M&P .38 over the 1911s that we had aboard my ship and at the bases I was stationed at.

Truth, not words to create drama. My opinion. That and $2.50 will get you a small black coffee at Starbucks.

Too bad the Military does let the Individual choose which weapon he carried. Many would carry their favorite gun of which the Glock, Sig or 1911 would not be the gun. Some folks that shoot the 1911 well, have a lot of experience with them, same with other guns. Just because the military or police use the gun through a Bid process means nothing to a individual that has the freedom of choice. I would never choose a Glock, forget it. Why would I, if I do not shoot it as well as other guns. But this thread is NOT about what a person shoots best, it is a question of what is the best handgun of ALL TIME. What is the best gun in the military now? Presently? I would agree with the Military on this score and say the Sig. And for a lot of reasons. But that is just opinion and that could go on forever. A real internet battle.

PS If I was in the military and had to carry a Glock, then I am going to piss off the Armorer, because I am going to dremel the finger guard on any issued to me because I dislike blisters on my shooting finger.
 
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That’s pretty funny, considering, from my perspective, 1911 fans seem to do the same every time there’s a Glock thread. :rofl:
Didn't read the small font in my post, eh? I don't take myself that seriously ...
I have to admit, I'm duly impressed by the way Glock fans flock to any thread (on any forum) to immediately leap to the defense of Glock pistols.
Do you guys get some sort of alert (maybe by text or even telepathically -- pretty sure you get some kind of implant, right?) when someone posts something anywhere on the internet with the word Glock in it?
[I know us 1911 guys do]
 
I'll never understand why people get a chapped butt if someone doesn't like their choice. Reminds me of the tolerance of the left.

Who cares, they (guns) are all tools. Match the right tool to the job. If you like it, use it, if not, don't.
 
Nothing against the Glock just not a good fit for me. I would put up for consideration for best combat handgun not only the Glock but the M1911A1, Browning Hi-Power, and the SIG P226. All of them have their strongpoints and their little idiosyncrasies but I would feel equally at ease if I had to take any of them into combat with me.
 
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