What's your "never buy" gun?

I'll never buy a Glock, unless it's dirt cheap and I intend to sell it for a profit to go towards another gun.

Anything chinese. Ruger or Browning would be second

Anything with a built in key lock!

For Sure

Any and all Kel-Tecs!

Even the KSG?

A Hi-Point pistol

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Even the KSG?

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I've never shot it and so I can't really provide a qualified opinion. All I know is that Kel-Tec makes some very innovative firearms. I've owned several along with three of my friends that I can remember. All of us had some type of serious issue with our Kel-Tec's that ultimately eroded any confidence we had in the gun and the brand. The KSG may rock but I'd check the other forums to see if it has any bugs, fixes and work arounds to make the KSG fire consistently and reliably. If so, I wouldn't touch it. Kel-Tec's problem is that they are notorious for "buggy" firearms that always need some type of after purchase fix to make them work right. Maybe it's just me but I believe a high quality brand will have worked all those bugs out before they sell their product. The consolation is that I have heard that Kel-Tec has a great customer service (lots of practice I imagine).

The one thing I have to say for kel tec is they at least try to make new designs.
Anything from Smith and Wesson nothing wrong with their guns just not for me. Also sigs, Xds. I do not like glocks but I will not say that I will never own one.

lifesgood said:

I've never shot it and so I can't really provide a qualified opinion. All I know is that Kel-Tec makes some very innovative firearms. I've owned several along with three of my friends that I can remember. All of us had some type of serious issue with our Kel-Tec's that ultimately eroded any confidence we had in the gun and the brand. The KSG may rock but I'd check the other forums to see if it has any bugs, fixes and work arounds to make the KSG fire consistently and reliably. If so, I wouldn't touch it. Kel-Tec's problem is that they are notorious for "buggy" firearms that always need some type of after purchase fix to make them work right. Maybe it's just me but I believe a high quality brand will have worked all those bugs out before they sell their product. The consolation is that I have heard that Kel-Tec has a great customer service (lots of practice I imagine).

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I have the same opinion of Kel-tec. I think their guns look cheap, which I know is the point. I've never shot a Kel-tec of any kind and I don't have the urge to, except for the KSG. If it proves to be good, I will get one.

Too late. I bought it...and regreted it the instant I fired it. An Enfield Jungle Carbine. It is the only thing I've ever shot that was truly painful. Maybe that rubber "pad" on the butt was soft at some point, but it's nothing but a very hard thing now.

TexasRifleman said:

Smith and Wesson semi auto handguns.

Never again.

Dunno about the M&Ps honestly but my past experience with their autos was horrible.

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Same here with the S&W autos. I had a 22A that just wouldn't freakin' shoot - every other shot was a misfire. A local cop friend had an M&P that acted the same.

I used to say I'd never buy a Kel Tec, but the new bullpups look awesome on paper.

fredthecat said:

I used to say I'd never buy a Kel Tec, but the new bullpups look awesome on paper.

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Which ones?

any rifle in a fancy expensive cartridge, and probably an AR. I know many people out there own them and love them, but I just like the soviet tec so much better

smith & wesson sigma

any type of AR. I never want to clean another star chamber for as long as I live!

Remington 1100...I worked at a gun shop, years ago..Unbelievable how many
of these I had to disassemble and clean up to get them working again.
They screwed up a lot of our customers hunts..POS!

P.R.

matty-vb said:

smith & wesson sigma

any type of AR. I never want to clean another star chamber for as long as I live!

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OK. That answer is completely justified.

AK's and anything made with plastic! - gene

S & W Sigma, bought one of the SV9s and hated it.

glocks and hi point pistols, sorry guys, just bein honest, hate a glock

No Love for Kimber

Never again a Kimber. No how, no way.

Anything with that goofy Glock/Savage/XDM saftey/accu trigger thing. I just don't like 'em.

Cokeman said:

Which ones?

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Both of them - RFB & KSG.

What dunneguns said

Plus any springfield not made in the U.S.

given the right price, i'll add pretty much anything to the collection As long as it's not stolen, it has a history, and that's interesting to me.

The worst gun I owned was an RG .22 revolver. It was $29....NEW!! That was 25+ years ago. It was basically a firearm that was built to the quality level of a mid-range cap gun. Really. Well...practically really.

Next was a semi-auto Jennings in .22. I think I paid $60 for that, new.

Next in line were a couple of Ravens (semi-auto)...I bought them "once upon a midnight dreary..." And then I shot them "NEVERMORE!!" They were $40 each, new. They actually didn't jam near as much as the Jennings because they were in .25 acp, which works better in cheapo autos than .22 lr.

The last, and best (or least worst) of my Saturday Night Specials was a 9mm Stallard (now Hi-Point.) I paid a whopping $139 for that new about 20 years ago. If Fred Flintstone was going to carry a Semi-auto, it would be the Stallard, as it appeared to have been made with primative neolithic flint tools.

You know what? I really kinda miss my rotten old guns. They represent a bygone era, in a way. You just don't see many of them around anymore (thank goodness.) I coulda had my own Saturday Night Special collection.

I don't own anything too fancy, currently (Ruger, S&W, Marlin, Winchester, etc.), but I appreciate their modest (yet undeniable) quality when I think of those crummy guns of my past.