1863 remington 31c pocket revolver i just got this a couple of weeks back

Personally, I would have opted for the steel frame as Howell's Old West has a drop in conversion cylinder chambered in .32 S&W. However, for BP only use the brasser is a little cutie as a "non-firearm" CCW gun...although the little .31s lack much in the powerhouse department (I have the Colt Baby Dragoon in .31). At the very least, it's a fun little shooter and a great conversation piece, so enjoy the snot out of it and never look back!
 
I wonder if brass doesn't hold up better in .31" than it would/does with the .36's and .44's? My interest in that pistol, besides just the cool-factor (or cutie factor?) would be as something to carry for small game, in which case accuracy would be my main concern.
 
I was dead set on a .31 revolver as my first real cap and ball gun, but I stumbled across a Navy Arms Griswold too cheap to pass up. I can’t really see the .31 stoked with black powder being a serious defensive weapon. No I wouldn’t want to be shot with it, but it’s not enough to stop a determined attacker. The steel frame with 32 conversion would get very interesting, especially if it could be managed to chamber 32 long flush seated wadcutters. 32s&w with wadcutters seated out the front worked in my 32sw guns but may not in a conversion cylinder. I still need to test out the Griswold. I bought it just before I moved and it’s been WAY down my list of things to do. I still don’t have a reloading bench set up yet.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
No it's not, unless there are no hospitals, emergency rooms, or anti-biotics. Then it's a very good deterrent, as any bullet wound might result in a slow agonizing death later. :)
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I have heard that true outlaws in the old west were more scared of pocket guns than horse pistols. Not afraid of dying, but afraid of a slow and painful death. Seems a shotgun would have been the most fearsome of all weapons by that logic, definitely would have been terrible with #4s poking a couple inches deep from an up close and personal situation.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
I wonder if brass doesn't hold up better in .31" than it would/does with the .36's and .44's? My interest in that pistol, besides just the cool-factor (or cutie factor?) would be as something to carry for small game, in which case accuracy would be my main concern.
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They should. A 50 grain ball with less than 15 grains of powder should be fine. I had an original Bacon .31 and I was not impressed.
 
Ugly Sauce said:
Yes, I believe that is why even outlaws were more "polite" back then. !!!!!
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Maybe they had different outlaws back then. Outlaws in my limited experience generally are kinda dumb and or unconcerned with consequences. (once arrested a guy who'd tried to burglarize a warehouse surrounded by barbed wire topped cyclone fencing. He was hanging by his pants cuffs caught in the barbed wire and was never so happy to see anyone as he was to see me.)
 
woodnbow said:
Maybe they had different outlaws back then. Outlaws in my limited experience generally are kinda dumb and or unconcerned with consequences. (once arrested a guy who'd tried to burglarize a warehouse surrounded by barbed wire topped cyclone fencing. He was hanging by his pants cuffs caught in the barbed wire and was never so happy to see anyone as he was to see me.)
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Truth. I worked in a prison/DOC for quite a while, what I saw was a lot of drug and alcohol use leading them outlaws astray. A lot of their dumb stuff being done while high or intoxicated. Or desperate to get high or intoxicated. Kind of dulls one's sense of consequences. !!! On dumb, some guys I met and got to know were very intelligent, but in that case, it was usually a case of "I'm smarter than everyone else so I can get away with it". !! Not realizing that no matter how smart you think you are, there is always someone smarter.
 
midland man said:
https://www.dixiegunworks.com/index...w+Model+Pocket+Remington+Revolver+Brass+Frame so anyone have one of these and what do you think about it??
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I have had several, over many decades. I keep forgetting how crappy they are and trade into another one. The loading lever pivot is very thin an prone to break. Do not try to force oversized balls into the cylinder with that lever. Load the cylinder separately, off the revolver.

I did convert two of them to handle the 22 rimfire. Lined the barrel and bored and sleeved the cylinders. On one, I replaced the spur trigger and guard with a standard trigger and round guard. It was a bit of fun to make and shoot.



Captain*kirk said:
However, for BP only use the brasser is a little cutie as a "non-firearm" CCW gun...
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It is still a firearm in the eyes of the law once you try to use it or get caught carrying it outside of the law. I would not want to be the poster child that tries that case.

Kevin
 
Ugly Sauce said:
Truth. I worked in a prison/DOC for quite a while, what I saw was a lot of drug and alcohol use leading them outlaws astray. A lot of their dumb stuff being done while high or intoxicated. Or desperate to get high or intoxicated. Kind of dulls one's sense of consequences. !!! On dumb, some guys I met and got to know were very intelligent, but in that case, it was usually a case of "I'm smarter than everyone else so I can get away with it". !! Not realizing that no matter how smart you think you are, there is always someone smarter.
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I’ve met a few criminals who were quite intelligent. If they weren’t drug addicts they were often just misfits, scheming and looking for an easy way to make a score. Had more than a few conversations about this and I would point out the most successful criminals hardly ever made more money over a span of years than some guy showing up at a construction site and working his 40-50 hours a week. One guy told me, yea but that’s a boring way to live… (we’d arrested him for strong arm robbery and armed robbery after a fairly exciting car chase.) I said well, you’ll always have the memories while you’re doing time down in Canon City… didn’t seem upset about that in the slightest. 🤷‍♂️
 
I got mine several years ago from Dixie. There was an obvious flaw in the steel casting of the frame. I called and the 2nd nicest woman in the world shipped me out a new one PRONTO! (The nicest woman in the world was my grandmother - 4' 9" of sweetness.)

I got a .32 short conversion cylinder too and it's like shooting a BB pistol unless you charge up the percussion cylinder to the max. I have small hands and it's a bit too small for me but just right for my 10 y.o. grandson.

If you get the conversion for .32 short, you better be a reloader because finding .32 shorts is nearly impossible. (A .32 auto set of dies does the trick.)
 
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