Black Adder LXX
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Truly sad. What is up with my state?
Curious that an aquaintance was denied a CCW with the sheriff stating in writing it was "law enforcements job to protect you, so call 911"."POLICE CAN NOT PROTECT YOU AND HAVE NO LEGAL OBLIGATION TO DO SO"
So gov't forbids some law-abiding people from having tools of self defence.
Well they could arrest him for theft, or hacking, or threatening to kill people...
The girl's ONLY OPTION was to defend herself, but the police were not willing, afraid, to say that. This is absurdity.
It's the government's fault these kids died.
Once they hinder YOUR ability to defend yourself THEY assume it.
So gov't forbids some law-abiding people from having tools of self defence.
There's a bad guy with a gun who has stolen money from a college kid. College kids usually have no money. What little she had was for paying rent... not hiding in a hotel for a week or buying a $200+ shotgun and ammo.
I remember college, and it was not financially possible for me to just go out and get a gun if needed.
If they police had arrested the guy based on the complaint the girl filed earlier, many of the same members who are outraged the police didn't do anything this time, would be calling for their heads because they arrested the poor spurned suitor before he committed a crime.
Last time I checked, making death threats IS a crime. Whether or not some people would berate police officers for arresting over DEATH THREATS, the dude committed two crimes prior to his actual attack, either one of which is arrestable. In fact, since the threat was made over the phone, he was probably also violating FCC/California telephone regs/laws regarding harassing phone calls (probably not arrestable, but certainly actionable).
If I tell a police officer that someone THREATENED TO KILL ME, and sends me a picture of myself with bullet holes photoshoped to it, and the cop does nothing substantive, he hasn't done his job.
Still, not even TRYING to contact the dude was negligent, provided the officer wasn't responding to multiple armed roberies at the time.
It's the government's fault these kids died.
fireflyfather said:Jeff, with all due respect, he committed at least two counts of assault. Last time I checked, making death threats IS a crime. Whether or not some people would berate police officers for arresting over DEATH THREATS, the dude committed two crimes prior to his actual attack, either one of which is arrestable. In fact, since the threat was made over the phone, he was probably also violating FCC/California telephone regs/laws regarding harassing phone calls (probably not arrestable, but certainly actionable).
An "assault" is an intentional, unlawful threat by word or act to do violence to the person of another, coupled with an apparent ability to do so, and doing some act which creates a well-founded fear in such other person that such violence is imminent.
link to statute
When I called 911 because a woman in the apartment above me was screaming there were two cop cars within five minutes.
Regarding phone threats, you have to have taped the threat in such a way that the person making the threat knows he was being taped, or you run afoul of the wiretapping laws. Court rulings have made it clear that the threat has to me imminent... like the threatening person has to be right there, on his cell phone, able to carry out the threat right NOW.
There's a bad guy with a gun who has stolen money from a college kid. College kids usually have no money. What little she had was for paying rent... not hiding in a hotel for a week or buying a $200+ shotgun and ammo.
I remember college, and it was not financially possible for me to just go out and get a gun if needed.