22 ammo back again

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redneck2 said:
Not quite sure what the shop is supposed to do.

If they keep it at pre-panic prices, guys come in at "cheap" (regular) price and suck it all up for resale. And anything they buy (if they can get it) for restocking their shelves costs more than they sold it for.

If they raise prices, they are gouging

If they hold back, they are favoring their buddies

Just remember, we are kinds of giddy when some poor slob is getting caught in a bad situation and we get something below cost. This guy is taking a beating so we can brag to our friends about our great deal. But when he has a chance to work his side of the supply/demand curve, it's a criminal offense
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I can understand honest business practice. However, there were quite some shops sent employees to clear WalMart shelf and resale them with ridiculously marked up price during panic. If you saw those 550 round cartons in your LGS, most likely the owner is a scalper.
 
I have started a one man campaign to bring down the prices in my town. They still get $6.99 for a box of 50 Mexican 22 ammo at my local store. I'm buying all the $19.99/325 boxes I can and selling them for $20 in my town. You can see I have no desire to get rich, just revenge!! I have sold all I can get my hands on so far and they thank me for it.
 
Personally, I've already seen AR-15 prices coming down, and I think ammo will follow shortly, too. Most Americans didn't expect the election to go in the direction that it did, and that direction definitely alleviates a lot of the concerns about bans. Many serious shooters stocked up over the last few years, and I'm assuming that most manufacturers did everything that they could to have an ample supply on hand if another panic situation hit (which I think a lot of people were expecting).

Supply and demand economics will eventually help to normalize the market again. I'm personally not buying anything that isn't at a good price right now. I'm set on everything I need (most of my friends are, too), but I'll still buy if I find the right price for the item.
 
well whens Walmart in Atoka Oklahoma gonna get 22 ammo back in store right now we need 22 shells!! but I bet after our new president is in office for a while all the 22 ammo will come more closer to back to normal and then I will stock up my room with 10-50k rounds for the next bull crap that comes when the next antigunner president gets in office!!
 
redneck2 said:
Not quite sure what the shop is supposed to do.

If they keep it at pre-panic prices, guys come in at "cheap" (regular) price and suck it all up for resale. And anything they buy (if they can get it) for restocking their shelves costs more than they sold it for.

If they raise prices, they are gouging

If they hold back, they are favoring their buddies
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Honestly, I like the way Walmart handled the whole ammunition shortage business. They bought what they could and applied their normal markup. When they ran out, they ran out.
 
In my part of Texas .22LR is pretty available most of the time. I've even been getting quite a bit of my favored CCI .22WMR 40gr. HP ... at the local Wal Marx and Academy.
 
I haven't seen a brick in person under $50 in years. The local gunshop had pyramids of $56.95 Golden Bullets and Thunderbolts a couple months back, right next to the $35 Tapco mags. I wonder if they are still outrageously priced, but I'm not convinced I should darken his door.

I am glad .22 is approaching ready availability online.

I talked to a Walmart clerk the other day. He was saying it comes in much more frequently now, it's just that everybody freaks out and buys it all as soon as they see it on the shelf.
 
22-rimfire said:
Honestly, I like the way Walmart handled the whole ammunition shortage business. They bought what they could and applied their normal markup. When they ran out, they ran out.
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Thing is, ammo is an incredibly small part of walmarts sales. If they never sold another box, I doubt if it would affect their bottom line one bit.

The poor guy at the LGS is in a whole different league
 
redneck2 said:
Thing is, ammo is an incredibly small part of walmarts sales. If they never sold another box, I doubt if it would affect their bottom line one bit.

The poor guy at the LGS is in a whole different league
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One can only guess whether 22 firearm sales would drop appreciably due to the shortage. I know folks here have said that. With regard to the small gun shop, what good is it to their customers if they prices things 3x as high just for the sake of having something on the shelf? Oh, I am sure there are cases where a customer will pay any price and well... I guess they went to the right place for that. Me, I refuse to pay that to the point of not shooting. Life goes on quite nicely not shooting and after some adjustment, I substituted other hobbies. That continues as I just got out of the shooting mode regardless of the pricing. (Just so you know, I never lacked for 22 rimfire ammo before, during, or after the shortage.) But the shortage did impact me psychologically as I felt I couldn't replace what I used easily. One could easily ask why I would concern myself at all since I had gobs of promotional grade 22LR at home during the entire several year shortage period and it's still there.

I also realize Walmart and similar stores are in a whole different league relative to the impact of ammunition sales on their overall monthly sales. I would think the small gun shop would have tried to expand their line a bit inside their shops. I know some stocked more holsters and of course they were charging full retail on those for the most part.
 
Thing is, holsters are not a consumable product like ammo. And, the sales of .22 rifles and pistols pretty much dried up since there was no ammo. One LGS held back ammo so that they'd have something to sell with each new rifle
 
i'm one of the silly ones. with no ammo locally, i was paying 10 cents/round for
poor automatch, plus shipping.
it isn't worth more than 5 cents, but i just got into rimfire handguns n couldn't help myself.
 
A lot of people like Automatch. What can I say?

Redneck2, so now it has to be a consumable product.... maybe they should try milk, bread, and tobacco products. I realize this is stupid comment, but I don't know anyone who consumes 22LR the way they used to since prices have gone up and many stopped shooting it entirely after availability dropped off and prices skyrocketed. Things are moving back to a new normal now which I am glad about. People will begin to get back to shooting it more frequently and 22 ammo will begin being what it is supposed to be.... something to blast away any time you want to and replace as needed..

As far as 22LR firearms, the shortage didn't slow me down from buying if I wanted something. What slowed me down were ridiculous prices or a dealer that charged excessively for something. I didn't see S&W or Ruger dropping their gun prices to spur sales either. It's pretty much past now except where Susiqz lives.
 
Gotta remember that everything ammo related was impossible to get. Any caliber ammo, powder, primers. So, when you're a shop and have no ammo for your guns, you're out of luck
 
Redneck2: I know selling ammunition at gunshops is very important. I know it was hard for gunshops to deal with and they didn't have many options. I don't have an answer other than to follow my sense of right and wrong and move forward.

Added: At one shop which had an indoor range attached to the building, they restricted ammo sales to paying members only for a while. I can understand that. Makes perfect sense and if you don't like it, buy a membership.
 
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I know of more than one gun shop that was buying .22lr ammo from individuals just so they would have some to sell new .22 gun purchasers.
 
SC Shooter said:
And the price is great. Maybe my fear of never seeing good prices again was unfounded.
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Dunno about "great", but I agree with your thoughts. People wanna get today's paycheck but pay yesterday's prices.

I used to live on a lake here. I'd have people say "yeah, I could have bought a house there for $20,000 back in the 70's". So, I'd reply "yeah, but you didn't because you were making $8,000 a year". Everything is relative.
 
While I do not own .22 rimfire I noticed that typical 50 round box is almost 3x more than it used to be just few years ago. I admit local Cabelas has larger variety than ever before.
 
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