.22lr MEGATHREAD

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I have been paying between 5-1/2-8¢/round including 7% sales tax, depending on brand for the last year or so. Mostly Walmart and local LGS. My supply has had interruptions but improvement is on the horizon.
 
I see it for sale at $60-$70 a brick, but I don't buy it unless I can get it for less than $35 a brick. I don't need it that bad.
 
I have loaded up over the past month from Cabela's and all at less than $.06 per round delivered to my door. Several different manufacturers from Rem to Winchester to CCI. I have enough that I don't even check when I get an email alert right now.

I kind of like this delivery stuff. Since I can only buy one to three boxes at Walmart(assuming they actually had some which they never do when I am there) the $5 per brick delivery charge is less than I would pay in gas to fire up the truck and drive to Walmart.
If I add up all the 22 I have purchased form local sources since October of 2012 I find I have actually purchased....none. None of the big box guys have had a single box in stock when I looked and the local guys have been in that outrageous area of $60 or so for a brick.
 
I have purchased exactly two boxes of .22LR in the last 14 months, both Remington Thunderbolt 500rd packs for $26 from my local FFL. Not bad, not great, but I haven't been in need of .22LR. I did my buying before the panic, I just wanted to give my FFL some money.
 
It's been almost three years since I bought .22LR (one year of that didn't really count, since I was overseas), and I can't remember what it was going for then.
 
Bought 21,000 rounds for just under $800

I have another 15,000 rounds coming any day now for $583 or so.

My apologies if this is your normal buying habits, but gougers showing up at walmart first thing in the morning and relisting ammo on gunbroker is only a small part of the problem. Shooters buying way more 22lr than they normally would is also a huge reason why its so hard to find on store shelves. If we want the panic to end we need to all go back to our pre panic buying habits. I know its tempting if we see a fully stocked ammo section to take a couple extra boxes, but that behavior just contributes to the problem. Bottom line: you want things to go back to normal, then act normal.
 
I came across two 225 packs of Remington Golden Bullets the other day for 11 a box at Walmart. I refuse to buy .22 for anything much more than that, as that's getting into centerfire handloading territory
 
My apologies if this is your normal buying habits, but gougers showing up at walmart first thing in the morning and relisting ammo on gunbroker is only a small part of the problem. Shooters buying way more 22lr than they normally would is also a huge reason why its so hard to find on store shelves. If we want the panic to end we need to all go back to our pre panic buying habits. I know its tempting if we see a fully stocked ammo section to take a couple extra boxes, but that behavior just contributes to the problem. Bottom line: you want things to go back to normal, then act normal.
To go back to normal would mean position changes for politicians, changes in laws and doing something about all of the new gun owners. Or. We could just accept the new paradigm that was created by going from 80 million gun owners to 100 million gun owners in a very short time.
 
Strahley said:
I came across two 225 packs of Remington Golden Bullets the other day for 11 a box at Walmart. I refuse to buy .22 for anything much more than that, as that's getting into centerfire handloading territory
How are you reloading for five cents per round?
 
I got 8x50 rd boxes of CCI std for 5 a box on Friday night. I was ecstatic. He had 3 bricks and no limit but I wanted to leave some for the others, he had it on the shelf for two days so at least in the Poconos of PA demand may be slowing.
 
I stopped at a gun store last week and they had bricks of .22 by the cash register for $69 each. They had some bricks of target .22 on the shelves at $79 each. I almost thought I was at a gun show.
 
I'm buying only from Wal-Mart unless I run across something I've not tried, or some specialty ammo, but I'm still not going to pay exorbitant prices (OXYMORON ALERT! ). I used to bypass 22LR ammo if it wasn't what I was looking for, but with what I've seen develop over the last year (AFA ammo purchases), even if they don't have what I'm looking for, I don't walk out empty-handed (always run across actual shooters looking for ammo).

Prices are Wal-Mart and do not include tax.

From my records:
Federal 550 Value Pack $23.97
Winchester M*22 $50.87 (1K rds)
Winchester 555 $24.67
Winchester 333 $17.37
CCI Mini-Mags $ 7.47 (100 rds)
Federal AutoMatch $18.97 (these have disappeared)

Some other prices:
223 TulAmmo BrassMAXX $16.97 (50 rds.)
9mm TulAmmo BrassMAXX $22.97 (100 rd. cans)
 
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Originally Posted by vamo View Post
My apologies if this is your normal buying habits, but gougers showing up at walmart first thing in the morning and relisting ammo on gunbroker is only a small part of the problem. Shooters buying way more 22lr than they normally would is also a huge reason why its so hard to find on store shelves. If we want the panic to end we need to all go back to our pre panic buying habits. I know its tempting if we see a fully stocked ammo section to take a couple extra boxes, but that behavior just contributes to the problem. Bottom line: you want things to go back to normal, then act normal.
To go back to normal would mean position changes for politicians, changes in laws and doing something about all of the new gun owners. Or. We could just accept the new paradigm that was created by going from 80 million gun owners to 100 million gun owners in a very short time.
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Sorry but this board is absolutely full of post with the bottom line of "I found 22 so I bought enough to last me and everyone I know a lifetime". If you want blame politicians for causing uninformed people to panic go ahead, but nothing new happened on the federal level and it was obvious to anyone with a basic understanding of how the government operates that nothing was going to happen the entire time.

To my knowledge there has not been a law passed by any state that has in anyway tighten the supply of 22lr ammo. People panicked and bought it all, that allowed opportunistic re-sellers to buy at the big box stores and sell for exorbitant prices, and gun owners contribute to the problem by over buying 22lr when they can find it.

My point is that it is completely off base to blame not being able to find and overpaying when you do find 22 ammunition on re-sellers and politicians. If everyone would just settle down and realize they don't have to buy enough 22 to see themselves into retirement RIGHT NOW then 22 would probably start returning to normal supply levels.
 
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but nothing new happened on the federal level and it was obvious to anyone with a basic understanding of how the government operates that nothing was going to happen the entire time.

I think the use of the word "obvious" is a bit of a stretch. Ask the people in NY, CO and CA about "new laws" that have affected them. Any new law that affects the RKBA in one state is going to cause some issues in other states.

Those who got caught short and/or have not been able to re-supply seem to think everything would be back to "normal" if everyone else would just stop buying ALL the ammo. If those people had had the foresight to keep more than their normal annual usage on hand then they wouldn't be struggling with the ammo shortage. I for one had over 20k rounds on hand last November and got down to 14k rounds this Summer when we slowed down considerably because of the extended issue. I have since built back up to over 20k rounds of 22 again so I feel pretty good about my supply. I certainly don't apologize to people for having plenty to begin with and for having plenty again.
 
I'm so tired of hearing people complain about people complaining about people bragging about how many rounds of 22 LR they have... ha ha...
 
I think the use of the word "obvious" is a bit of a stretch. Ask the people in NY, CO and CA about "new laws" that have affected them. Any new law that affects the RKBA in one state is going to cause some issues in other states.

Those who got caught short and/or have not been able to re-supply seem to think everything would be back to "normal" if everyone else would just stop buying ALL the ammo. If those people had had the foresight to keep more than their normal annual usage on hand then they wouldn't be struggling with the ammo shortage. I for one had over 20k rounds on hand last November and got down to 14k rounds this Summer when we slowed down considerably because of the extended issue. I have since built back up to over 20k rounds of 22 again so I feel pretty good about my supply. I certainly don't apologize to people for having plenty to begin with and for having plenty again.

Well I said federal which was completely obvious, there weren't enough votes in a liberal leaning senate much less a very conservative house to tighten laws. But this is a thread about 22 prices and nothing was passed anywhere that justifies whats happened to the 22 supply. Its our own fault for all deciding at the same time that we absolutely NEED 22 RIGHT NOW.

Lets say I go through a brick of 22 per year. If I find 22 on the shelves of walmart tomorrow and buy 2 bricks (assuming I haven't bought 22 in the last year) then my personal demand has just doubled. If everyone that typically buys a single brick per year does the same thing that puts a huge strain on supply. What do you think happens when a bunch of people like the person I was responding to buys 36,000 rounds? And again my apologies if that's their normal buying habit.
 
Wal mart had cheap remington thunderbolts for $2.29 box of 50. And cci stinger for $5.99 box of 50. That's almost double what they were just a few years ago. Maybe I should start selling my stash that I've put together over the many years.
 
Every brand seems to have their own pack size, 325, 333, 550 . . .
Can someone define "brick" for me?

Mike
 
In the last 18 months I've found 3 50rnd boxes of Federal Lightnings at WallyWorld for $2.49 each, That's all I've seen for sale.

Am I considered a horder? I have 13,000 rnds of .22 lrs but I bought them before the current "shortage."I haven't sold any but I've been giving some to the Boy Scouts.
 
My habit is to keep one year's supply on hand for every round I shoot. By April of this year I was below that point because I was not willing to pay really high prices and was not able to resupply at what I considered reasonable. Now that ammo has come back in fairly good supply(excepting 22 and 380) I have built my inventories back up to a one year supply and bumped a couple of them up to a two year supply. With 22 I am back to a one year supply but would gladly move that item to a three year supply if I could find it in my price range. With 380 I am at about a two month supply because I have been unable to find FMJ range ammo at all and don't particularly care for reloads from internet companies.
 
I have purchased one box of Winchester 100 ct HV since the Nov. 2012 election. I was in Walmart the other day and the manger told me they had gotten in two cases of Federal 550 ct bulk packs and they were gone by 11:00AM. He indicated they changed their box limit to a single box of 22LR and one other such as centerfire (vs 3). He seemed to think this would stop most of the lurkers first thing in the morning who re-sell the 22 ammo.

He indicated it was ONE BOX of 22 rimfire no matter what the round count was. So, if they had my preferred Federal Lightning (510B's) I could only buy a single 50 ct box.

Maybe I'll head over to Walmart a bit earlier just to see if there is any 22LR in a few days. I have a pretty substantial stash of 22LR that was purchased prior to Nov. 2012. I am not really hunting for 22 ammo and just react if I run onto it.
 
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