I practice at distances roughly up to that range, using those police "picture" targets (man with a knife, man with a hostage, Osama, Saddam etc..) and at those ranges I am stoked if I can get all my shots onto target. Now, I can make a relativly tight group with my MkII, but with any of my other guns, Pie Plate accuracy is about the best that I can expect. Now, at 7 yards, my groups tighten up considerably. My theory is that trying to focus on hitting a target at 25 yards is hard enough work that at 7 yards, its just "easier". WIth my MkII, on my best day (I don't profess to be anything other than a average marksman with a pistol) I have shot ragged groups of under a 1/2 inch, with maybe one "flyer". With anything else, provided I take my time and don't rush it, I can shoot 2 inch groups all day at 7 yards, which for all intents and purposes, is enough to get the job done. Of course, those are my on my average/above average shooting days. I have had days that I couldn't hit the broadside of a barn, and I had one day where I was hitting a plastic golf ball, with a S&W .357/4inch barrel, out to as far as I could see it. Which was a funny day because I was shooting with a guy that shoots IPSC matches and I told him that I was looking forward to getting some tips (which was true, I really was hoping to pick some things up), and that day I shot so well that I think the guy thought I was a little bit of a showoff!