.269.6 Picher Mag?

[LoonWulf]

That would be a mess unless he shoots them in the neck.

hes one of the "aim at the middle" guys, if he hits them in the neck its cause they dodge the wrong way
That does go to show the lethality of the cartridge, and a bullet thats just heavy/tuff enough to get into the squishy bits, I dont think Ive ever seen him loose an animal, and he shoots a ton.

 

[Picher]

I can't imagine why anyone who knows terminal ballistics would deliberately use such a varmint-type bullet for larger animals. The 130-140 grain deer bullets are much better and can continue to penetrate after striking bone. A varmint bullet could make a non-lethal surface wound if the impact angle isn't close to 90 degrees.

I've used 130 grain Hornady GMX solid copper bullets with great results. The one shown below was recovered from a buck shot from a tree stand at a buck running dead away at 40 +/- yards. It was found by the butcher in the neck, after travelling about 30" through meat and bone. It retained about 97% of original weight and the wound channel was immense, according to the butcher.

Nosler Accubonds are also very good for larger deer and moose, but for factory ammo, Core-Locts and new Winchester Deer Season ammo are very good. Core-Locts are the most widely-used deer bullets here in Maine, because they work!

 

[Jim Watson]

Anecdote Alert

1. Dealer said a customer complained that 180 gr .30-06 was not killing deer quickly and wanted some 220s. He got him to try 130s instead. Killed like lightning.

2. Speaker at NRA convention in 1970s had hunted the world with .257 Weatherby 87 gr only. Reported great success on all game. "Velocity kills."

3. Except when it doesn't. There were several English milords who did not survive their choice of then high velocity rounds from The Imp (.22 Savage) to .280 Ross for dangerous game.

 

[LoonWulf]

I can't imagine why anyone who knows terminal ballistics would deliberately use such a varmint-type bullet for larger animals. The 130-140 grain deer bullets are much better and can continue to penetrate after striking bone. A varmint bullet could make a non-lethal surface wound if the impact angle isn't close to 90 degrees.

I've used 130 grain Hornady GMX solid copper bullets with great results. The one shown below was recovered from a buck shot from a tree stand at a buck running dead away at 40 +/- yards. It was found by the butcher in the neck, after travelling about 30" through meat and bone. It retained about 97% of original weight and the wound channel was immense, according to the butcher.

Nosler Accubonds are also very good for larger deer and moose, but for factory ammo, Core-Locts and new Winchester Deer Season ammo are very good. Core-Locts are the most widely-used deer bullets here in Maine, because they work!

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Cause they don't kick alot, and he doesn't know crap about terminals balistics besides he pulls the trigger and stuff dies.
I tired to convince him to switch to something heavier(and he will shoot 150 for pigs), but he likes those and won't change.


To be fair to him tho our sheep and goats usually only weigh about 40-50lbs, with really big sheep running 80-100. Ill comfortably take them out to 250 with a .223 and 65gr gameking, and he's seen me do it, which is part of his argument for why the 90s are perfectly acceptable.

 

[Bfh_auto]

Cause they don't kick alot, and he doesn't know crap about terminals balistics besides he pulls the trigger and stuff dies.
I tired to convince him to switch to something heavier(and he will shoot 150 for pigs), but he likes those and won't change.


To be fair to him tho our sheep and goats usually only weigh about 40-50lbs, with really big sheep running 80-100. Ill comfortably take them out to 250 with a .223 and 65gr gameking, and he's seen me do it, which is part of his argument for why the 90s are perfectly acceptable.

I see where he is coming from. The felt recoil isn't comparable and he is confident in them.
Beer and soda come in the same size containers but have totally different effect.
I have a friend who uses a 7mm ultramag on Oklahoma whitetail. We have had the same type of discussion.

 

[someguy2800]

I shoot 90 grain Speer TNT’s in my 25-06 as a varmint load. Not real hot, like 3350 fps but you can hit a pop can at 300 yards with them and they turn coyotes into red mist. Always wanted to see what would happen if you shot a deer with one but I never will. I’m certain a broadside lung shot would be like flicking off a light switch but a misplaced shot could be a bad deal.

 

[Picher]

I shoot 90 grain Speer TNT’s in my 25-06 as a varmint load. Not real hot, like 3350 fps but you can hit a pop can at 300 yards with them and they turn coyotes into red mist. Always wanted to see what would happen if you shot a deer with one but I never will. I’m certain a broadside lung shot would be like flicking off a light switch but a misplaced shot could be a bad deal.

Good for you!!!

 

[js8588]

.270WSM!
Uhhhmmmm.....thats al i got

there are at least 6 .338s that i can think of of hand .338Win, .338Fed, .338Ultra, .338Lapua, .340WBY (only one i want), .338-378WBY...i THINK they made that a factory round

338 Marlin

 

[LoonWulf]

338 RCM!... I completely forgot about Hornadys entries