2A Sanctuary Movement starting to spread to other states

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2A Sanctuary Movement, which initially began in Illinois, has spread to Virginia and now spreading to the state of Kentucky. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Second Amendment Sanctuary Movement Spreads To Kentucky - https://www.wymt.com/content/news/Harlan-County-becomes-2nd-Amendment-Sanctuary-566282321.html

America's Second Amendment Sanctuary Movement Is Alive and Well - Rural communities continue to resist their legislatures’ attempts to enact gun control by declaring themselves “Second Amendment sanctuaries.” - https://reason.com/2019/11/21/americas-second-amendment-sanctuary-movement-is-alive-and-well/

Imagine the historic rally in VA on January 20 leading to 2A Sanctuary Year to be front and center issue for 2020 election ... :D

2A Sanctuary Movement for VA discussion thread here - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/virginias-next-move.858689/

 
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True. And even more interesting is legislation unanimously by the Tazewell County (VA) Board of Supervisors (3 Dems, 2 Rep) to form, and fund, a county militia (as permitted under the VA Constitution apparently) for the express purpose of opposing enforcement of legislation under preparation in Richmond.

"No funds may be used to enforce" type resolutions are all well and good. Earmarking funds to establish an armed resistance is rather more....
 
scrambling now for symbolic sanctuary zones is a result of failing to fight for the vote when there was a real chance to save the 2nd amendment. when the states takes a right away or infringes upon it, anyone who openly defies the state will be Ruby Ridged.
 
JERRY said:
scrambling now for symbolic sanctuary zones is a result of failing to fight for the vote when there was a real chance to save the 2nd amendment. when the states takes a right away or infringes upon it, anyone who openly defies the state will be Ruby Ridged.
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seems doubtful. Recent experience with the bundy clan seems to indicate they’ve learned their lesson
 
JERRY said:
scrambling now for symbolic sanctuary zones is a result of failing to fight for the vote when there was a real chance to save the 2nd amendment. when the states takes a right away or infringes upon it, anyone who openly defies the state will be Ruby Ridged.
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Actually not.

True, the notion of Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ is solely symbolic, but the ‘movement’ will likely end the consequence of the Federal courts, not Federal law enforcement.
 
jdc1244 said:
Actually not.

True, the notion of Second Amendment ‘sanctuary’ is solely symbolic, but the ‘movement’ will likely end the consequence of the Federal courts, not Federal law enforcement.
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the courts have already decided that a permit to carry a revolver meets the requirements for the RKBA. that's why there are magazine restrictions, ammunition restrictions, and gun type restrictions across the nation. soon Va. will have a one gun a month purchase limit, magazine restrictions, et cetera.....
 
JERRY said:
the courts have already decided

... why there are magazine restrictions
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Courts also ruled like First Amendment protects modern types of communication, the modern ammunition storage devices like magazines, even large capacity magazines, are under the protection of Second Amendment.

Justice Scalia in DC v Heller used firearms in "common use" and application of the Second Amendment to modern types of firearms and ammunition storage devices just as the First Amendment applies to modern types of communication - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

In Caetano v. Massachusetts, the Court emphasized that, under Heller, the protections of the Second Amendment extend to firearms that were not in existence at the time of the Framers - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10078_aplc.pdf

And in Duncan v Becerra, Judge Benitez ruled that magazines holding more than 10 rounds are "arms" and in "common use" and referenced Fyock v Sunnyvale which also stated large capacity magazines (15+ rounds per federal definition) qualify as "arms for purposes of the Second Amendment" and in "common use" - https://michellawyers.com/wp-conten...-2019-03-29-Order-Granting-Plaintiffs-MSJ.pdf
 
taliv said:
seems doubtful. Recent experience with the bundy clan seems to indicate they’ve learned their lesson
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That only worked for two reasons. 1.) There were a LOT more armed men at the Bundy ranch than there were at Ruby Ridge, and, 2.) the government (ultimately, the president) backed down. That easily could have gone the other way, with thousands of troops and APCs crushing that little rebellion, not unlike President George Washington and the Whiskey Rebellion.

It amazes me how people think the government is going to take this lying down. Now, don't take that as me being defeatist or opposed to the 2nd amendment; I just don't share the positive vibe everyone else has. I'm something of an historian (aren't we all?) I know the history of war. I know that some of the biggest, bloodiest wars in human history started out with people on both sides thinking it would be "over by Christmas."

I'll say this much: As much as I love to tell my country's story. As much as I've studied history. I'm afraid of where this is leading.
 
JERRY said:
the courts have already decided that a permit to carry a revolver meets the requirements for the RKBA. that's why there are magazine restrictions, ammunition restrictions, and gun type restrictions across the nation. soon Va. will have a one gun a month purchase limit, magazine restrictions, et cetera.....
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Agreed. And all of it will be covered by the judicial branch. The Constitution says whatever the Supreme Court says it says.
 
LiveLife said:
Courts also ruled like First Amendment protects modern types of communication, the modern ammunition storage devices like magazines, even large capacity magazines, are under the protection of Second Amendment.

Justice Scalia in DC v Heller used firearms in "common use" and application of the Second Amendment to modern types of firearms and ammunition storage devices just as the First Amendment applies to modern types of communication - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

In Caetano v. Massachusetts, the Court emphasized that, under Heller, the protections of the Second Amendment extend to firearms that were not in existence at the time of the Framers - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10078_aplc.pdf

And in Duncan v Becerra, Judge Benitez ruled that magazines holding more than 10 rounds are "arms" and in "common use" and referenced Fyock v Sunnyvale which also stated large capacity magazines (15+ rounds per federal definition) qualify as "arms for purposes of the Second Amendment" and in "common use" - https://michellawyers.com/wp-conten...-2019-03-29-Order-Granting-Plaintiffs-MSJ.pdf
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So its the states are breaking the law with their retarded magazine bans.
They might as well be passing a law that will only allow key boards limited to 10 words per minute to be sold or used.
 
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I'm from ky, it has spread like wildfire since monday, this past week they have released prefilling of 5 or 6 radical gun Bill's, any at all is radical, and last months election of a communist governor , sure has got it going! Last month's election actually was a very slim margin of about 4800 votes, there was mainly only 2 counties that accounted for the lost out of 120 counties, fayette and Jefferson, which is where lexington, and louisville are.
 
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Alaska, the entire state, became a 2A sanctuary state in 2010. Not just a resolution, either, a state law passed by the state legislature. Provides felony charges against any federal agent enforcing gun laws in Alaska. (I'd like to see how they plan to enforce that.)
 
LiveLife said:
Courts also ruled like First Amendment protects modern types of communication, the modern ammunition storage devices like magazines, even large capacity magazines, are under the protection of Second Amendment.

Justice Scalia in DC v Heller used firearms in "common use" and application of the Second Amendment to modern types of firearms and ammunition storage devices just as the First Amendment applies to modern types of communication - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf

In Caetano v. Massachusetts, the Court emphasized that, under Heller, the protections of the Second Amendment extend to firearms that were not in existence at the time of the Framers - https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/15pdf/14-10078_aplc.pdf

And in Duncan v Becerra, Judge Benitez ruled that magazines holding more than 10 rounds are "arms" and in "common use" and referenced Fyock v Sunnyvale which also stated large capacity magazines (15+ rounds per federal definition) qualify as "arms for purposes of the Second Amendment" and in "common use" - https://michellawyers.com/wp-conten...-2019-03-29-Order-Granting-Plaintiffs-MSJ.pdf
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if those cases truly held the weight of law, the magazine restrictions in California and NY would not stand. same with the CT ban on AR15s.
 
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True. And even more interesting is legislation unanimously by the Tazewell County (VA) Board of Supervisors (3 Dems, 2 Rep) to form, and fund, a county militia (as permitted under the VA Constitution apparently) for the express purpose of opposing enforcement of legislation under preparation in Richmond.

"No funds may be used to enforce" type resolutions are all well and good. Earmarking funds to come establish an armed resistance is rather more....
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This may help explain why so many AR-15’s and billions of rounds of ammunition are being sold and, most importantly, why they are being brought and sold.

Just as in the 1850’s our nation is very divided. Gun owners and conservatives are waking up to the threats of their beliefs and way of life. Gun owners stayed home in Virginia and as a result are getting the Government they deserve.
 
BSA1 said:
This may help explain why so many AR-15’s and billions of rounds of ammunition are being sold and, most importantly, why they are being brought and sold.

Just as in the 1850’s our nation is very divided. Gun owners and conservatives are waking up to the threats of their beliefs and way of life. Gun owners stayed home in Virginia and as a result are getting the Government they deserve.
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Hopefully that leads to a sweeping movement in 2020. People have been complacent for far too long. I really feel for Virginians who actually did go vote. Love him or hate him, the situation surrounding our President has opened eyes about corruption and the lengths some in government will go for power. And that translates to the 2A as much as it does anything.
 
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