30-06 or 270?
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supercalvin56
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270 is best.....it doesn't slam recoil like the 30-06.
jcollins1007
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I hate to be that guy, but I would actually look for a .280 Remmy. It uses a 7mm bullet that can get better BCs than the 270 bullets. But if you're not reloading, I would go with the 270, since it shoots flatter, has less recoil, and you don't lose any power at range with it. The 30-06 is nice, historic, and fun to say, but otherwise the 270 is simply better IMHO.
When the 270 was introduced in 1925 the traditional load was 130 gr at 3150 fps. The more common 30-06 loads were 180-220 gr bullets runnng much slower. The two at that time fell into very different categories.
Today you can get 30-06 factory loads with 150 gr bullets running at 3100 fps that will all but match the trajectory of the 270 for longer shots.
With modern bullets a good 150 gr 270 load will put down larger game just as well as 180 gr 30-06 ammo.
Truth is the 2 have never been closer in performance. I like the 30-06 better, but you cannot go wrong either way. As someone else said the 280 is, at least on paper, better than either. But I've been down the 280 path and won't be going back. Good round, but I ain't selling my '06 rifles and the 280 wasn't enough better to justify another type of ammo to buy or load for.
Today you can get 30-06 factory loads with 150 gr bullets running at 3100 fps that will all but match the trajectory of the 270 for longer shots.
With modern bullets a good 150 gr 270 load will put down larger game just as well as 180 gr 30-06 ammo.
Truth is the 2 have never been closer in performance. I like the 30-06 better, but you cannot go wrong either way. As someone else said the 280 is, at least on paper, better than either. But I've been down the 280 path and won't be going back. Good round, but I ain't selling my '06 rifles and the 280 wasn't enough better to justify another type of ammo to buy or load for.
WTBguns10kOK
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.30-06 for diversity
.270. I love my .270 Savage 111 FCNS. The gun is stock and is EASILY the most accurate gun I've ever owned. Hitting a Fire extinguisher at 565 yards is so easy it's boring.
I loaded my own ammo for a while, but couldn't match the 130gr SST Hornady ammo for accuracy, so i stopped.
It's scary to have a gun that I can pull out, load a factory hunting round into, and hit a 6" target at 600 yards on the first shot with EASE..... I love it.
I loaded my own ammo for a while, but couldn't match the 130gr SST Hornady ammo for accuracy, so i stopped.
It's scary to have a gun that I can pull out, load a factory hunting round into, and hit a 6" target at 600 yards on the first shot with EASE..... I love it.
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Fire extinguisher at 565 yards you say? Could that be manatee gun club?? if so, i've put a few holes in said fire extinguisher. i love that fire extinguisher!
For the OP, I was looking for a used 270 and ended up with the 30-06. I've been happy with it thus far. Comparing ballistics with my .308, there is a negligible difference between the two. Hopefully i'll delve into reloading in the future and can work up some 30-06 rounds that will shoot flatter. But at hunting distances, it's only a matter of a few inches between a 30-06 and .308. the 270 will shoot flatter I believe.
For the OP, I was looking for a used 270 and ended up with the 30-06. I've been happy with it thus far. Comparing ballistics with my .308, there is a negligible difference between the two. Hopefully i'll delve into reloading in the future and can work up some 30-06 rounds that will shoot flatter. But at hunting distances, it's only a matter of a few inches between a 30-06 and .308. the 270 will shoot flatter I believe.
DM~
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If you will be going after the biggest animals, it's the 30-06 all the way... Otherwise, there's nothing wrong with a 270.
Personally, i prefer a 280 Rem., i built myself a light weight 280 many years ago, it's been a GREAT cartridge for me!
DM
Personally, i prefer a 280 Rem., i built myself a light weight 280 many years ago, it's been a GREAT cartridge for me!
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"make your own choice.".......... Then do it. Plus, your are correct this comparison has (truly) been beat to death!
Both camps drown out the other so it`s a wash. IMO. Either cal is great,
it`s just which one you like.
Both camps drown out the other so it`s a wash. IMO. Either cal is great,
it`s just which one you like.
CoRoMo
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This bears repeating.
Well put. Can't and won't argue there.
I have to echo this statement, emphasis added, and I mean nothing whatsoever.
Yes. Good info. The OP should see the writing on the wall now.
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I have a 30-06 Rem 7400. The barrel is a little short in my opinion and the barrel heats up fast, thus losing accuracy. That really only matters at the range. I only need one shot at deer. 
. Back to my point. The 30-06 has great flexibility for hunting. I kill small west TN whitetails at 40yds just like i do big west TN deer at a 200yds. I would need a better platform to get out much further, but the 30-06 can do it. Just know you ballistics.
If i were doing a lot of target shooting and some hunting i would get a .308 bolt.
Edit: nothing wrong with .270. true. Especially if you only will be hunting whitetail across huge open fields.
. Back to my point. The 30-06 has great flexibility for hunting. I kill small west TN whitetails at 40yds just like i do big west TN deer at a 200yds. I would need a better platform to get out much further, but the 30-06 can do it. Just know you ballistics.If i were doing a lot of target shooting and some hunting i would get a .308 bolt.
Edit: nothing wrong with .270. true. Especially if you only will be hunting whitetail across huge open fields.
Mike1234567
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I bought .270 Win, .30-06 Sprngfld, .308 Win... and others. I don't hunt and won't in future unless I must. I only have these as "insurance". The various calibers are strictly for diversity should ammunition become scarce for some. I'm absolutley certain that any one of the three I listed above are more than adequate for any wild beast currently in my area... currently being the operative word. If feral hogs grow to 400 pounds or if black bear migrate from the hill country down to my area then I'd definitely opt for .30-06 with 220gr bullets for that little bit of extra insurance.
Kachok
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It comes down to this.
If you only hunt deer country, and you can reguraly spot deer past 300 yards get the 270 no doubt about it.
If you hunt or plan to hunt Elk, moose, black bear, or trophy hog, the 30-06 has a clear advantage over any 270. 200gr and 220gr heavyweight bullets just put the 06 in a different class for killing the really big stuff.
If you only hunt deer country, and you can reguraly spot deer past 300 yards get the 270 no doubt about it.
If you hunt or plan to hunt Elk, moose, black bear, or trophy hog, the 30-06 has a clear advantage over any 270. 200gr and 220gr heavyweight bullets just put the 06 in a different class for killing the really big stuff.
This may have been a true statement 50 years ago, but not today. With the best loads available a 30-06 will only drop around 3/4" more at 300 yards than the best loads from a 270.
With the best premium bullets available today there is not an elk, moose, black bear hog or any other animal on the planet that will ever notice the difference between a 270 or 30-06. If the 270 can't get the job done, neither will the 30-06.
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The 30-06 will have more "commonly" available loads if you don't already hand load. Not to mention the use of surplus for practice. Besides if you go for the ruger in 30-06 you'll already have ammo for when you get a m1903.
KodiakBeer
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another one 270 - 30-06 )??? I use 270 my brother use 30-06, both kill deer same, shot both recoil is about the same with same bullet weight. Just peak one, can't go wrong with any. 270 has less selection of good BC bullets, I use 150 gr Nosler BT 0.496 B.C, this bullet good for elk or deer alike, maybe its to much for white tail, but what matters is the end result. Berger also makes 150 gr hunting VLD with 0.531 BC this bullet can be used on moose or even bear. At the end all what matters is sectional density which produce lethal result, for 30 caliber to match SD of 270 in 130 gr it has to go 165 gr bullets and 150 gr in 270 will match 180 - 185 gr 30 caliber bullets. By the way the biggest grizzly bear shot in US is by 30-06, this record still stands.
)??? I use 270 my brother use 30-06, both kill deer same, shot both recoil is about the same with same bullet weight. Just peak one, can't go wrong with any. 270 has less selection of good BC bullets, I use 150 gr Nosler BT 0.496 B.C, this bullet good for elk or deer alike, maybe its to much for white tail, but what matters is the end result. Berger also makes 150 gr hunting VLD with 0.531 BC this bullet can be used on moose or even bear. At the end all what matters is sectional density which produce lethal result, for 30 caliber to match SD of 270 in 130 gr it has to go 165 gr bullets and 150 gr in 270 will match 180 - 185 gr 30 caliber bullets. By the way the biggest grizzly bear shot in US is by 30-06, this record still stands.
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TwoWheelFiend
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Both?
Kachok
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Oh don't get me wrong, the 30-06 does shoot nice and flat (just not quite as flat as the 270) And the 270 can handle elk and simmilar sized anamals (just not quite as well as the 30-06) Anyone that would disagree with those statements needs a lesson in external and terminal ballistics. I would not feel out of place hunting anything smaller then brown bear with my 270 cal 140 Accubonds, nor would I hesetate to take a 400 yard shot with an 06 with 165gr ballistic tips.
Both can handle any game in the lower 48 at any reasonable range, so debating the difference between them is spliting hairs. Mulie and smaller 270 wins, elk and larger 06 wins. Or if you can handle the recoil a 270 WSM, 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag and have the best of both worlds and then some
Hard to go wrong with a 280 Rem either, can use high SD bullets like the 06 while maintining flatter trajectory like the 270. Light kicking, hard hitting, and a flat trajectory. Kinna hard to do wrong with that.
Both can handle any game in the lower 48 at any reasonable range, so debating the difference between them is spliting hairs. Mulie and smaller 270 wins, elk and larger 06 wins. Or if you can handle the recoil a 270 WSM, 7mm rem mag or 300 win mag and have the best of both worlds and then some
Hard to go wrong with a 280 Rem either, can use high SD bullets like the 06 while maintining flatter trajectory like the 270. Light kicking, hard hitting, and a flat trajectory. Kinna hard to do wrong with that.
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