32acp or 25acp?

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grter said:
Out of the 2 choices you described how about an older .32 caliber revolver with a long barrel or a Ruger SP101 in .327 magnum with a 4 inch barrel.

The Ruger would allow you to use any .32 caliber round you choose except for .32acp.

It can shoot .32acp but they don't do very well in an SP101.

I would think .32acp is better than .25 caliber. I would want a longer barrel than what normally comes on those little pocket pistols whatever the case.
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you can fire .32acp out of a .327, almost an identical base diameter and the .32 is semi-rimmed, in fact you can find videos of people loading .32acp into SP101s and firing it fairly easily
 
Yes but they are not very accurate there is somthing different about the dimensions that make the .32acp a lousy shooter when used in firearms made for standard .32s and the .327 magnum.
 
im just going to experiment with the 25acp more, it matches everything i wanted, a cartridge that can be an analog to the 22, if not matches 22lr ballistics in a pistol with handloads while consuming very, very little powder and lead to get the job done

there may not be any newly produced pistols in this caliber that are any good, but i'll be the one to worry about that
 
mavracer said:
Penny wise and dollar foolish, buy another gun, dies, moulds, more expensive brass to save a few pennies on lead and powder.
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This. You would have to shoot thousands of rounds before the savings offset the price of the dies and gun. ( assuming you don't already have .25 ACP reloading dies)
 
Out of the 2 choices you described how about an older .32 caliber revolver with a long barrel or a Ruger SP101 in .327 magnum with a 4 inch barrel.

The Ruger would allow you to use any .32 caliber round you choose except for .32acp.
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Bingo!

Or you could get the same gun in .357 and shoot .38 Special wadcutter loads. My favorite is a hollowbase 148 grain bullet loaded over 2.7 grains of Bullseye.
 
One reason for not firing a lot of .32 ACP in a .32 S&W/H&R/FedMag is that the .32 ACP bullet diameter is .309, while the revolver rounds are .312". The .32 ACP will be inaccurate and extended firing will result in barrel erosion. The pressure of the .32 ACP is higher than that of the older revolver rounds, but that should be no problem in any reasonably strong revolver, even the old ones.

BTW, you won't be able to use cartridges like 5.7x28, 30 Luger, or 7.62 Tokarev in a straight blowback pistol unless the slide is massive (think Hi-Point).

Jim
 
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hmm, 5.7x28mm brass is pretty cheap, rim diameter is very close to the .25acps.. base diameters larger, but if you could chop down 5.7x28 and make a wildcat out of it, it could be the low-cost, easy to load mouse gun caliber that seems to be missing in the general absence of 25acp and 32acp
 
seecamp is resuming manufacture of their 25 acp after a 30 year hiatus. they are quality guns.
 
justin22885 said:
hmm, 5.7x28mm brass is pretty cheap, rim diameter is very close to the .25acps.. base diameters larger, but if you could chop down 5.7x28 and make a wildcat out of it, it could be the low-cost, easy to load mouse gun caliber that seems to be missing in the general absence of 25acp and 32acp
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By rim diameter I assume you mean bullet diameter since 5.7 is a rimless round. I'm sure it can be resized from other brass though. Also if you cast your own billets maybe you could just cast .25 ACP bullets and size them to 5.7?
 
looking at the 5.7x28 if i were to convert it into a mouse gun cartridge i would probably just cut a 5.7x28 sizing die short, trim the case and size it with the same neck and shoulder as 5.7x28 and just load it with the low ogive .22 hornet bullets for a COAL of about 1".. the interior volume would allow about ~180ft/lbs muzzle energy firing a 40 grain .223" bullet at 1400-1450fps from a 6" barrel... that is if anyones interested into what you could theoretically get off 5.7x28 brass
 
heyjoe said:
seecamp is resuming manufacture of their 25 acp after a 30 year hiatus. they are quality guns.
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unfortunately i dont think youre going to generate much interest in these.. 100 years ago, maybe but today we have 9mm pistols that are almost as small, they really need to remarket it as a small game caliber.. chamber 25acp into something similar like an MKIII or buckmark and im sure it would generate more interest than trying to market something so small and weak for self defense
 
justin22885 said:
unfortunately i dont think youre going to generate much interest in these.. 100 years ago, maybe but today we have 9mm pistols that are almost as small, they really need to remarket it as a small game caliber.. chamber 25acp into something similar like an MKIII or buckmark and im sure it would generate more interest than trying to market something so small and weak for self defense
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Sounds like a business opportunity to make a small fortune.

Of course, you would need a large fortune to get it going.
 
the cost of 25acp is true, and unless someone remarkets it as a small game hunting pistol with a fixed barrel/upper for accuracy i dont think thats going to change..

would there even be a market though for a 25 or 32acp fixed barrel/upper pistol for the purpose of small game hunting?.. would there be a market for a shortened and down-loaded 5.7x28 designed to function in an otherwise 25acp pistol?
 
Ellsnjel said:
Why do you want to down load 5.7?
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uuh, to conserve powder? thats kind of the point of looking into 25acp and 32, to be cheap on reloading resources like bullets and powder.. how does a 50kpsi PDW cartridge fit into that?.. not to mention the cost of the weapons that fire it, it doesnt, i have no interest in the size and cost of a five seven pistol nor the 5.7x28mm cartridge itself, its brass is cheap, if i could use that then maybe but full powered, full length is just a waste for what i want to do
 
the rarity and costs of the ammo and the lack of diversity in firearms to chamber it may force me to stick with .22lr.. thing is, .22lr is fine out of a rifle, out of a pistol its just awful, i wouldnt shoot anything bigger than a chipmunk with it
 
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justin22885 said:
the rarity and costs of the ammo and the lack of diversity in firearms to chamber it may force me to stick with .22lr.. thing is, .22lr is fine out of a rifle, out of a pistol its just awful, i wouldnt shoot anything bigger than a chipmunk with it
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Wow, you must have some really big chipmunks. I've had no problems with a 22LR out of a pistol(at reasonable range of course), with groundhogs, raccoons, foxes, etc.
 
If I can kill squirrels and rabbits with a .177 air rifle, a 22 would do the job nicely.
If you go 32, get a revolver. I used to own a Walther PP and even on a swept concrete range floor, those things blend in way too easy with everything and they get lost quick.
With any if these, you'll want hearing protection as the short barrels have a lot of noise.
 
then i'll probably stick with an MKIII or buckmark, i dont need anymore revolvers and .32/.25 ammo is way too expensive for what you get out of it
 
then i'll probably stick with an MKIII or buckmark, i dont need anymore revolvers and .32/.25 ammo is way too expensive for what you get out of it
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Damn that was a long trip around the barn.
 
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