Ugly Sauce
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Ya they do. Had a guy tell me he shot a doe at 40 yards with a .50 cal. Thompson Center Hawkens load with 3F 777 and the ball went through and through and never expanded. He tracked the doe a long distance before she bled out. But he was PO cause it never expanded. Like I said in my first thread. I've seen all sorts of weird things that ammo isn't suppose to happen and yet they do.Do .600" pure lead round balls ever fail? Not yet.
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Ya they do. Had a guy tell me he shot a doe at 40 yards with a .50 cal. Thompson Center Hawkens load with 3F 777 and the ball went through and through and never expanded. He tracked the doe a long distance before she bled out. But he was PO cause it never expanded. Like I said in my first thread. I've seen all sorts of weird things that ammo isn't suppose to happen and yet they do.
Ya they do. Had a guy tell me he shot a doe at 40 yards with a .50 cal. Thompson Center Hawkens load with 3F 777 and the ball went through and through and never expanded. He tracked the doe a long distance before she bled out. But he was PO cause it never expanded. Like I said in my first thread. I've seen all sorts of weird things that ammo isn't suppose to happen and yet they do.
Thanks for the tip, but it is already out of stock. I was hunting all day yesterday with my son and didn’t see your message until now. Oh well.From your information, you are not satisfied with the ammo. Something shouldn't have happened, but did. It should have been a thru and thru and it wasn't. It sounds like old ammo that may not have been stored in the best of conditions..... I've deer hunted for over 50 years and have seen some awfully weird problems with ammo. BUT....
I know of a nice Christmas present. Right now Cabela's has .35 Remington in stock. Hornady Revolution 200 grn. flex tip is $42/box and Winchester 200 grn. $52. Enjoy the venison and plan for a great hunt next year! Merry Christmas!
You are missing at least two things, when a bullet goes into or through an animal, many times the hide slips over the hole(s) and there's little to NO blood loss. In my case, the bullet did exit and there was NO external blood loss for over 50 yards...
What controlled expansion means, is exactly that, controlled expansion, it doesn't mean that ANY bullet that expands and holds together will exit, not by a long shot! In fact, many times an expanded bullet that DOES hold together has less penetration, and that's why I like NP's. The nose of an NP blows off creating a lot of damage and the back 2/3's of the bullet that's left, has little expansion and goes on through...DM
You have two options: 1) order it now, Cabela's will bring it in from another store or back order. You got a whole year to fill the back order until you need it.Thanks for the tip, but it is already out of stock. I was hunting all day yesterday with my son and didn’t see your message until now. Oh well.
) Start loading your own. Granted, start up costs will be $300 or so, but it's a great hobby and you can custom fit to your own particular needs.
Lee basic hand press reloading kit $50, set of dies, $48.00, new or once fire brass $90/100, 1# powder $52, LRP $8/100, bullets $55/100.A LEE hand press and one die set, and a scale will cost way-way-way less than $300.00!
Lee basic hand press reloading kit $50, set of dies, $48.00, new or once fire brass $90/100, 1# powder $52, LRP $8/100, bullets $55/100.
MINIMUM AMOUNT OF THE ABOVE COMES TO $303.00 Ps. scale not needed, powder scoop comes with the dies.
scale not needed, powder scoop comes with the dies.
I do reload, but this is not my rifle, it's my friend's. I let him know that Cabela's briefly had some ammo in stock. Thanks again.You have two options: 1) order it now, Cabela's will bring it in from another store or back order. You got a whole year to fill the back order until you need it.
2) Start loading your own. Granted, start up costs will be $300 or so, but it's a great hobby and you can custom fit to your own particular needs.
I guess the impact was not as far forward as it appears in the photo. There was a 3-4” long shard of rib in the chest cavity when he filed dressed the deer.just curious so don't ridicule me. from the photo of the impact point, how did the shot break a rib? looks like it's too far forward to even touch a rib.
I'd take the Winchester ammo over that funky "Leverevolution" that likes to jam up the action. But...Perhaps it was the caliber that "failed". A 350 Remington Magnum would probably provide the results desired regardless of the bullet used.