Fortunately he didn't. If you shoot a bear in WY (without a tag), it's an automatic Federal beef. You're guilty until you prove yourself innocent and to do that it has to be a really clear cut self defense scenario.When I went to WY camping I bought some Corbons for the same effect in case Yogi came into camp. Unfortunately he didn't.
Greg
good advice makes sensei tend to agree with you, but with a large animal that will eat just about any thing alive or dead. and you make the wrong choice about which bear it is, things can go south in a hurry. i would hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst. eastbank.
Thus another thread train careens down a dirt road to perdition.
sorry 76shuvlinoff, my bad
Nice lookin Shovel BTW. I had '74 74"and '76 80" FLs, and an '82 FXR. Prolly should have kept that last one.
As illinoisburt suggested that isn't the case when you are using solids. Velocity is never a bad thing from a terminal ballistics standpoint (barrel life is a different story altogether), it can result in most any effect you desire depending upon the bullet construction (from a thin jacket HP or BT that explodes on impact, to a partitioned bullet with limited expansion whilst retaining decent penetration, to a solid that has no expansion but excellent penetration). If you give a large bore (.366-458cal.) rifle enough velocity and you can use it for most anything and retain a decent trajectory in the process.I think a slower moving 400 grain bullet at 1500-1600 penetrates in a straighter line deeper then the same bullet driven over 2000 fps being if they hit a heavy bone they might deflect
when I gave that bullet weight at that speed I was thinking close range not shooting at a buffalo from 500 yds away. I was referring to a guy that shot a cape buffalo at 60 yds. except in Africa you can conjecture for every 10K hunting bullets fired there is one solid firedI used to shoot a load like that out of my 1885, and honestly didn't find it to be that bad. My new load (I had it rechambered to for a little larger cartridge based upon the .45-120Sharps) is a different story...it drives a 480gr. solid at 2200fps and is somewhat more difficult to handle (on the same level as a .416Rigby and it's a reasonably lightweight rifle to boot).
As illinoisburt suggested that isn't the case when you are using solids. Velocity is never a bad thing from a terminal ballistics standpoint (barrel life is a different story altogether), it can result in most any effect you desire depending upon the bullet construction (from a thin jacket HP or BT that explodes on impact, to a partitioned bullet with limited expansion whilst retaining decent penetration, to a solid that has no expansion but excellent penetration). If you give a large bore (.366-458cal.) rifle enough velocity and you can use it for most anything and retain a decent trajectory in the process.
I imagine that there are a lot of solids fired out of .45/70's but most of them are cast.when I gave that bullet weight at that speed I was thinking close range not shooting at a buffalo from 500 yds away. I was referring to a guy that shot a cape buffalo at 60 yds. except in Africa you can conjecture for every 10K hunting bullets fired there is one solid fired
you misunderstood me. I was referring to expensive copper solids when I said I think to much speed might make a bullet deflect that is why I like the 45/70 400 cast bullet at 1500 fps rather then 2000. so a guy said that copper solids would not deflect at 2000 + which I still think they mightI imagine that there are a lot of solids fired out of .45/70's but most of them are cast.
I've always thought those "cowboy" .45-70 Marlins with the extended barrel and magazine tube would be terrific fighting rifles when loaded up with lightweight high-velocity .45-70 hollow points.