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coloradoshooter77 said:
Must be a whole lot of people smoking that happy weed now that it's legal in Colorado if you guys are paying 4 times the price of 9mm for .45ACP.
9mm 1911.... thoughts?
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Must be a whole lot of people smoking that happy weed now that it's legal in Colorado if you guys are paying 4 times the price of 9mm for .45ACP.
dusty14u
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I like Officer sized 1911`s and wanted to try one in 9'm so I bought an RIA CS and I have really enjoyed it. It doesn't have the recoil of an Officer 45 and the accuracy is decent.
It hasn`t had any issues through several hundred rounds.
It hasn`t had any issues through several hundred rounds.
NWcityguy2
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I've shot my 45acp 1911 for years and have approximately 40k rounds through it. I also recently bought a 1911 in 9mm, a Taurus PT1911, and like it as well. They are very much alike but there are some differences between them as well.
For starters, I think that 1911s in 9mm are a great idea. There are very obvious reasons that 1911s in general are popular. They can have great triggers, easy to customize, feel good in the hand, easy to make accurate, etc. All a 9mm chambering does is make it cheaper to shoot. Ignore the traditionalist. No one is saying that John Moses Browning is rolling in his grave because someone chambered the High Power in 40S&W. Also, as someone else has mentioned, 9mm 1911s have a niche in competition shooting, specifically IDPA ESP. As Vice President, Match Director and CSO of an IDPA club, I'll be the first to say that IDPA has never figured out power factor, and there is no competitive benefit to shooting major.
When I first started shooting my 9mm though, I thought the gun felt very sluggish. I still think that is true, as a small cartridge is pushing back a large steel slide, which in turn is being pushed back into battery by a fairly light recoil spring. Recoil itself is nada, but the gun does feel sluggish compared to other 9mm guns I have shot.
I'd recommend either a Springfield Range Officer in 9mm (not commander size, I understand) or looking at the entry level tier like the Filipino guns or a Taurus. 1911s can very wildly in price and often little to none of it affects shootability, and sometimes not that much of it affects fit and finish either. Unless you have a dream gun in mind, and won't be happy with anything else, I wouldn't recommend spend more than $800 on a 1911.
For starters, I think that 1911s in 9mm are a great idea. There are very obvious reasons that 1911s in general are popular. They can have great triggers, easy to customize, feel good in the hand, easy to make accurate, etc. All a 9mm chambering does is make it cheaper to shoot. Ignore the traditionalist. No one is saying that John Moses Browning is rolling in his grave because someone chambered the High Power in 40S&W. Also, as someone else has mentioned, 9mm 1911s have a niche in competition shooting, specifically IDPA ESP. As Vice President, Match Director and CSO of an IDPA club, I'll be the first to say that IDPA has never figured out power factor, and there is no competitive benefit to shooting major.
When I first started shooting my 9mm though, I thought the gun felt very sluggish. I still think that is true, as a small cartridge is pushing back a large steel slide, which in turn is being pushed back into battery by a fairly light recoil spring. Recoil itself is nada, but the gun does feel sluggish compared to other 9mm guns I have shot.
I'd recommend either a Springfield Range Officer in 9mm (not commander size, I understand) or looking at the entry level tier like the Filipino guns or a Taurus. 1911s can very wildly in price and often little to none of it affects shootability, and sometimes not that much of it affects fit and finish either. Unless you have a dream gun in mind, and won't be happy with anything else, I wouldn't recommend spend more than $800 on a 1911.
doubleh
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I bought a RIA Tactical compact 1911 in 9mm early this year. When it is running right I enjoy shooting it. I've found a couple of glitches with it but have ironed them out----I think. If I ever run across a Taurus PT 1911 in 9mm I intend to trade it in.
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zb338
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If you can afford it, get a 1911 in .38 Super Automatic.
Doesn't that have a nice ring to it. It is a sweet caliber.
Zeke
Doesn't that have a nice ring to it. It is a sweet caliber.
Zeke
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Ammo is cheaper. Easier (than a 45) to shoot well. Currently popular!
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+1 on the $800 after that it gets into the "look what I got (and you don't). Bar-O-Que thing. Which makes about as much sense as 24 inch rims on a 90's Impala! Need to draw attention to yourself? Wear your hat backwards!
Grunt
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Yeah, the Star pistols aren't a bad deal at all. I got a BM for my son to grow into as soon as he's ready. My criteria was an easy centerfire caliber to shoot that was also affordable for lots of practice. I also wanted a slim slingke stack grip that would fit smaller hands as well as a single action trigger that wouldn't present trigger reach issues for shorter fingers or heavy pull weights that would discourage good groups and turn off a new shooter. A Glock lacking a manual safety was out of the question. I also wantes a shorter barrel that would be more fitting for a smaller ahooter yet not so short that the sight radius wpuld make shooting difficult. Also, a steel frame that would soak up recoil better than an alloy or polymer frame was desireabke as well. Finally, being an trainer pisol, I wanted something lower priced yet good quality. The Star BM fit every one of these criteria so when I found an excellent one on gunbroke for $200, I jumped on it. It's been a good performer so far (got to test it out before I give it to him since I don't want to give him a lemmon ya know.....at least that's the story I'm sticking with) being reliable, accurate and durable.
If there anything I can fault with it is that being out if production and a defunct company makes replacement parts hard to come by. Magazines also tend to be fairly spendy as well in comparison to other offerings out there. The magazine safety is not something I'm in favor of but its easy to remove and replace if you want it or not.
If there anything I can fault with it is that being out if production and a defunct company makes replacement parts hard to come by. Magazines also tend to be fairly spendy as well in comparison to other offerings out there. The magazine safety is not something I'm in favor of but its easy to remove and replace if you want it or not.
ColoradoShooter77
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Around here, 9mm ball goes for around $12/box. 45 acp is running around $22/box for 230 grain ball.
$10/box cheaper x 20 boxes in a case.....that's 200 bucks!
$10/box cheaper x 20 boxes in a case.....that's 200 bucks!
entropy
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I have a friend who inherited his Dad's 9mm LW Commander. I've shot it, and it is one nice shooting 1911. I have dibs if he ever decides to sell it, but I doubt he will.
The majority of my 1911s are .45s but the to that get carried the most are a custom Colt .38 Super that also has a 9mm barrel and a lightweight Springfield Ultra Compact 9mm. When I carry the Colt I use the Super barrel but I use the 9mm barrel in action pistol and 3 gun because it's so fast, much easier to shoot fast accurately than a .45. The Springfield is an Officer size gun (3.5"), holds 8+1, is also very easy shooting and accurate and easy to carry and has all of the benefits that 1911s are known for - great trigger, ergonomics, etc. - why carry a single stack Glock when there are guns like this to be had?
If you've never shot a 9mm 1911 go out and try one, any size/configuration. They're a ton of fun, accurate, and fast and you can run the hottest ammo out there and recoil is never an issue.
If you've never shot a 9mm 1911 go out and try one, any size/configuration. They're a ton of fun, accurate, and fast and you can run the hottest ammo out there and recoil is never an issue.
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My current 9mm. is really a .38 Super Colt Commander with a 9mm. barrel assembly and magazines. Very comfortable to shoot in either caliber and the 9mm. conversion allows me to use less expensive ammo for practice sessions.
MICHAEL T
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I have the orginal 9mm 1911. A 1951 COLT Commander in 9mm ,serial 62XX .Its a great carry and fun to shoot .Being they were LTW and 9mm Recoil is nil and easy to carry IWB . Its in my normal 1911 carry rotation.
Why in world would you look at a copy cat Kimber or Springfield . When you can have a Colt in 9mm .
Why in world would you look at a copy cat Kimber or Springfield . When you can have a Colt in 9mm .
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Rock185
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I have had several manufacturer's 1911 type 9MMs. At risk of losing my Man Card, Ill admit that I have enjoyed the light recoil, accuracy and reliability of good 9MM 1911 type pistol. BTW, over approx. a 15 year period, I had 3 Kimber 9MMs. All 3 were boringly reliable from day one, and no, none of the dreaded MIM parts ever broke, bent or crumbled to dust;-)
One of my 1911s is a 9mm Kimber Tactical Pro II (similar to the Kimber Pro Carry II but with added features). I can say for sure that the feed ramp is integral to the barrel, not the frame. It's one of my favorites
- used it to qualify for my CHL.
dakota1911
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I have Colts and SAs in 1911 land. Both work fine and the recoil is less than .45 if that is important.
dakota1911
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It is interesting to go to the range with say SA ROs in 45 and 9mm and compare and contrast.
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I want a 1911 in 9mm, mostly for the savings on ammo, my Range Officer in .45 puts a smile on my face every time I take her out to the plate rack.
1911's, if they fit you, are a joy to shoot.
1911's, if they fit you, are a joy to shoot.
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Lafitte
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A 1911 in 9mm is like a Corvette with a 4 cylinder engine!
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