Oh yes and they still leave the cocking the hammer sound bite on 99% of Glocks used...
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Oh yes and they still leave the cocking the hammer sound bite on 99% of Glocks used...
Trunk Monkey
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Trunk Monkey
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In another thread I said that I consider myself to be a Glock fanboy that's not really true.
I own a Glock 19 and a Glock 26. The only other Glock that I'm even minimally interested in is a Glock 23 and I've already decided I'm not going to buy one.
I bought my Glock 19 as a replacement for an M&P9C (1st generation). It's my perception tha a 9C is a clunkier, heavier gun with a lower capacity than a Glock 19.
I like the magazine compatibility between my Glock 19 and my Glock 26 and I like the fact that there are several different types of aftermarket magazines available and I like the fact the Glock Factory magazine is usually a third cheaper than a Smith & Wesson Factory magazine (although to be fair the S&W is a MecGar.) But I didn't know that when I bought my Glock and I'm almost positive somebody new to guns wouldn't know it either.
I remember going to a gun show the week after Obama was elected. There was a line out the door and halfway down the parking lot full of people who just wanted a gun any gun before Obama banned them.
I distinctly remember a woman standing in a booth with a revolver in her hand and asking the seller if the gun she had in her hand was a semi-automatic and did it have a safety.
When my sister was considering getting her concealed handgun permit and buying a handgun the only specific criteria she could name was "I want something with a clip." As far as I know her son took took her to the gun store, picked out a gun and told her to buy it. I'd be willing to bet that if I asked her right now she would not know what kind of gun she's got.
People like that wouldn't know what a Glock was if you hit them in the head with it.
I own a Glock 19 and a Glock 26. The only other Glock that I'm even minimally interested in is a Glock 23 and I've already decided I'm not going to buy one.
I bought my Glock 19 as a replacement for an M&P9C (1st generation). It's my perception tha a 9C is a clunkier, heavier gun with a lower capacity than a Glock 19.
I like the magazine compatibility between my Glock 19 and my Glock 26 and I like the fact that there are several different types of aftermarket magazines available and I like the fact the Glock Factory magazine is usually a third cheaper than a Smith & Wesson Factory magazine (although to be fair the S&W is a MecGar.) But I didn't know that when I bought my Glock and I'm almost positive somebody new to guns wouldn't know it either.
I remember going to a gun show the week after Obama was elected. There was a line out the door and halfway down the parking lot full of people who just wanted a gun any gun before Obama banned them.
I distinctly remember a woman standing in a booth with a revolver in her hand and asking the seller if the gun she had in her hand was a semi-automatic and did it have a safety.
When my sister was considering getting her concealed handgun permit and buying a handgun the only specific criteria she could name was "I want something with a clip." As far as I know her son took took her to the gun store, picked out a gun and told her to buy it. I'd be willing to bet that if I asked her right now she would not know what kind of gun she's got.
People like that wouldn't know what a Glock was if you hit them in the head with it.
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Riomouse911
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In Ca I believe the Gen 3 Glock 19 is still ok for people to buy over the counter, so they’ll sell for mucho $$.
Stay safe.
Stay safe.
cslinger
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There is a HUGE number of new gun owners who are fairly ignorant (said in terms of knowledge not in a disparaging manner) of firearms. Glock is synonymous with pistol for a GREAT many people. People buy what they think they know. (not that Glock is a poor choice).
Remember this mad scramble isn't a bunch of enthusiasts adding a new gun or buying their first after years of research. This is a mass influx of folks who suddenly realized that PD is only a few minutes away......which is only a few minutes too late.
I just hope we see at least a little sea change in attitudes and politics in this area. I doubt it, but a guy can hope.
Remember this mad scramble isn't a bunch of enthusiasts adding a new gun or buying their first after years of research. This is a mass influx of folks who suddenly realized that PD is only a few minutes away......which is only a few minutes too late.
I just hope we see at least a little sea change in attitudes and politics in this area. I doubt it, but a guy can hope.
Ernie Bass
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Recently was at the LGS and was talking to a clerk I knew. A young lady came and asked another clerk to see the Glock they had.The clerk assisted her. He showed her a Glock 43X (one of the few guns they had for sale) and she took it and it was so obvious that she knew nothing about firearms. She asked the Price and the Clerk told her $799.00. She just said to him that "I was hoping to just pay around $500.00. He told her about the current situation with the gun buying frenzy, which was true, but he never told her there were other options out there. I honestly felt sorry for her. But I did not butt in. Looking back, I wish the scene was different. I might of even sold one of my guns at a fair price. But, hey, you can only do so much. I took off and headed for the range. Thought a lot about it later and just hoped she found something nice and in her budget. Someone told her to get a Glock and did not really give her any education. At the time, there were ways to get something more reasonable.
It sucks right now. People are scared, concerned etc. Police de-funded, women living alone, people buying guns for the first time, and then no ammo and on and on. I hate to say it, but I think it is going to get worse.
It sucks right now. People are scared, concerned etc. Police de-funded, women living alone, people buying guns for the first time, and then no ammo and on and on. I hate to say it, but I think it is going to get worse.
BreechFace
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Glock...hard to argue with success, they just flat work and work well.
When uncertain times present themselves people head to known certainties.
When uncertain times present themselves people head to known certainties.
Who wouldn't want a Glock over a Taurus?
falmike
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This
See my post above. BYE BYE..
Its a 10rd gun that will likely never be banned even in ban states.
I'm just not a fan, but mainstream non gun normies even know the name.
Ive owned tons, liked the g26 the best. Can use all the 9mm mags in the family, shot really well with it.
In that role, I think the p365 or hellcat best it nowadays.
I was looking at pistols taken from shootings in Chicago.
Whole Lotta hi point c9s posing as "glocks ".
If asked I wouldn't steer a newbie towards one without training.
Ive owned tons, liked the g26 the best. Can use all the 9mm mags in the family, shot really well with it.
In that role, I think the p365 or hellcat best it nowadays.
I was looking at pistols taken from shootings in Chicago.
Whole Lotta hi point c9s posing as "glocks ".
If asked I wouldn't steer a newbie towards one without training.
Obturation
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I can understand the premium on glock brand glocks right now, they've proven to just work without anything extra. I'm not a glock fan boy, not even close but I carry either a g20, g30 or g42 every day. The reason is that they're simple , reliable & tough as nails. I'm hard on my gear and don't baby any inanimate objects intended for use. I've owned other polymer guns and other glocks too but have no need for any other polymer guns because of the 3 I've kept- small, medium & large. They have the same manual of arms, parts are abundant , mine have proven to be impervious to the elements and they're accurate right out of the box. Other polymer guns are ok, just don't need them. There's only one polymer gun brand I wouldn't own even if it were free (not saying which) and it's not hi-point.
I'm sure I could find s&w models that would fill my needs too, they'd be my second choice in polymers.
Walther would be my 3rd choice.
Ruger 4th, cz 5th and so on.
Can't get into xd, roll pins and such for disassembly and springfields politics (I'm an Illinois guy and YES it still matters to me)
I just prefer glocks, it's like asking if someone wants a Coca-Cola or generic cola - both are pop but ones the original that you know will be good basically every time
I'm sure I could find s&w models that would fill my needs too, they'd be my second choice in polymers.
Walther would be my 3rd choice.
Ruger 4th, cz 5th and so on.
Can't get into xd, roll pins and such for disassembly and springfields politics (I'm an Illinois guy and YES it still matters to me)
I just prefer glocks, it's like asking if someone wants a Coca-Cola or generic cola - both are pop but ones the original that you know will be good basically every time
Dan-O
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Good enough for Tupac, good enough for me.
You realize he died young dont ya ?
I would wait. After the election you could get $800 or $800 depending on who wins!
I’m a Glock guy but only because I want quality, simplicity and interchangeable magazines. Mostly quality. I don’t watch many movies and don’t listen to much music so I didn’t even know Glocks were famous in that way. I’m more impressed they will run steel case crap ammo.
Mosin Bubba
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What the extra $200 really buys you when you purchase a Glock, vs the budget knockoff du jour, are billions and billions of LE and military rounds fired over the past 30 years proving the Glock is going to work under any and all circumstances. That and the A+ magazines. Their pistols don't really cost any more to make than say an RP9, and we know that Glock has plenty of meat on the bone as far as margin. But if you're a consumer, how much is that proven name worth to you.
Glock has been smart enough to recognize this so far and has protected their reputation for reliability jealousy. Super-small iterations between generations (finger grooves!) with the new products always working straight out of the box, refusing to accept popularly-requested features (double stack G48, 15 shot G44 trainer) that won't work 110%, and so far not cutting any corners on materials or manufacturing. Because if they do slip on their pistols' complete reliability, some of these budget competitors are getting good, and they will eat Glock up.
It almost reminds me of the Colt AR-15s. For a while, the name brought you billions and billions of govt-fired rounds as insurance. But then the cheap segment of the market that it competed against got drastically better, and BCM and Daniel Defense started offering their own pro-grade alternatives with similar quality and a lot more interesting configurations than just "GI stock". Colt refused to offer any new rifles and kind of got lazy building the one they did, and the end came quickly for them.
Glock is in the same boat today. The low end's gotten a lot better since the days of the Sigma, and pro-grade pistols like the M&P, VP9, etc, offer comparable quality at an equal price. Glock is doing all the right things - offering a ton of new pistols that all run just as well as the G19. It's good to be king, but it's also hard to stay on top. So far they're doing a good job.
Their pistols don't really cost any more to make than say an RP9, and we know that Glock has plenty of meat on the bone as far as margin. But if you're a consumer, how much is that proven name worth to you.Glock has been smart enough to recognize this so far and has protected their reputation for reliability jealousy. Super-small iterations between generations (finger grooves!) with the new products always working straight out of the box, refusing to accept popularly-requested features (double stack G48, 15 shot G44 trainer) that won't work 110%, and so far not cutting any corners on materials or manufacturing. Because if they do slip on their pistols' complete reliability, some of these budget competitors are getting good, and they will eat Glock up.
It almost reminds me of the Colt AR-15s. For a while, the name brought you billions and billions of govt-fired rounds as insurance. But then the cheap segment of the market that it competed against got drastically better, and BCM and Daniel Defense started offering their own pro-grade alternatives with similar quality and a lot more interesting configurations than just "GI stock". Colt refused to offer any new rifles and kind of got lazy building the one they did, and the end came quickly for them.
Glock is in the same boat today. The low end's gotten a lot better since the days of the Sigma, and pro-grade pistols like the M&P, VP9, etc, offer comparable quality at an equal price. Glock is doing all the right things - offering a ton of new pistols that all run just as well as the G19. It's good to be king, but it's also hard to stay on top. So far they're doing a good job.
Dan-O
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All the good musicians do
Old Dog
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Ah, the sweet, sweet music of all the Glock fanboys singing together in perfect harmony... [cue retching noises]
I think what we're seeing that when people truly think there may be a real SHTF even the answer to the age old question of what gun do you want is a 9mm or a .45 ACP.
One of my local retailers had quite a bit of .380 ACP and 10mm on their shelves today...
At any rate, confirmation bias is alive and well on the internet.
Apparently the OP needs to travel out a bit further, as I'm noticing that almost all semi-auto pistols seem to be selling for a premium on both the new and used market.
I think what we're seeing that when people truly think there may be a real SHTF even the answer to the age old question of what gun do you want is a 9mm or a .45 ACP.
One of my local retailers had quite a bit of .380 ACP and 10mm on their shelves today...
At any rate, confirmation bias is alive and well on the internet.
carsten1911
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Well, Chris Farlowe is 80 and still alive.
Need more examples?
Glorifying gangstas and basically wild drug addicts is not following the high road, IMHO.
Gen 3 Glocks are the only Glocks that are on the CA DOJ Roster which means they are the only models that are legal for non-LEO’s to purchase out here. You can’t sell 15 round magazines here, and who cares about about low cap magazines if you don’t live in a low cap mag state. You’re going to pay these kind of prices in an internet deal like this if you can’t hold off until sometime next year when supply & demand get back to whatever the new normal gun market becomes. I can’t believe that they will be selling $800 Glocks at that time.
I get offered crazy prices these days for my Glocks at the LGS / LGR that I shoot at, but with no way to replace them in the current situation I have to politely decline.
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Ernie Bass
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Just curious, there are a lot of serious gun enthusiast out there in today's world of shooting. And they buy other guns that they love, they say they have proven to be ultra reliable and built tough as nails. They say they shoot extremely well and in some cases paid less than a Glock of similar size and weight. I know this for a fact because I run into these guys often at the club I shoot at. So what is the reasoning they make such poor choices of buying one, when we all know that Glock has proven to be a better gun and one that is guaranteed to never have a failure of any kind? Isn't the guarantee worth more than their own experience? Why would they buy any other gun, when one gun, the Glock has proven itself to be actually perfect and never once fail? These people are in denial and they need help. Some are friends and in one case a family member. I wonder so many times how I can help my brother who is lost and headed so far down and there seems to be nothing myself or family can do to help him.
Pat Riot
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You guys that see a Glock thread and beat feet to the end to post how much you hate Glocks make me laugh. Seriously.
It’s a freakin’ psychological phenomenon.Someone could write a doctoral thesis on you all and sell a half a dozen different books on the matter.
Hilarious!
Y’all realize you don’t get these moments back, right?
It’s a freakin’ psychological phenomenon.
Someone could write a doctoral thesis on you all and sell a half a dozen different books on the matter. Hilarious!
Y’all realize you don’t get these moments back, right?
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Trunk Monkey
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They don't know any better?
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