TexasRifleman
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Question Jim.... What was she going to shoot us with? We have all the guns
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Question Jim.... What was she going to shoot us with? We have all the guns
bogie
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Guys - remember that every time an Evil Black Rifle owner gets into a tiff with a Wood and Blued Steel owner, we're one step closer to having 'em all gone.
AR owners are just a bit more aware of the legislation, past and future. That's about the only difference.
Now, get out there and TRANSFORM the ignorant into the educated. BE NICE.
The Brady folks want us to further fragment. Do you wanna give them what they want?
Be NICE. Education can be a hard thing to do.
AR owners are just a bit more aware of the legislation, past and future. That's about the only difference.
Now, get out there and TRANSFORM the ignorant into the educated. BE NICE.
The Brady folks want us to further fragment. Do you wanna give them what they want?
Be NICE. Education can be a hard thing to do.
MICHAEL T
Member
I think Outdoor Gun and Fishing writers should be band. They serve no real purpose .So why are they allowed .
Oh! I know 1st AMENDMENT Well I happen to like the 2nd AMENDMENT It kinda protects the 1st. I don't hunt but I own AR's and I just bought a AK . I thought Uncle Sam paid and trained me for 13 yrs to fight terrorist and defend peoples right to keep and bear Arms ,along with rest of the Constitution . Not just the part about hunting. Where is the hunting part again? I can't seem to find it,in my copy of the Constitution.
Oh! I know 1st AMENDMENT Well I happen to like the 2nd AMENDMENT It kinda protects the 1st. I don't hunt but I own AR's and I just bought a AK . I thought Uncle Sam paid and trained me for 13 yrs to fight terrorist and defend peoples right to keep and bear Arms ,along with rest of the Constitution . Not just the part about hunting. Where is the hunting part again? I can't seem to find it,in my copy of the Constitution.
bogie
Member
Okay. Help the Brady folks.
Fine.
Don't TERMINATE.
EDUCATE.
Fine.
Don't TERMINATE.
EDUCATE.
ADKWOODSMAN
Member
ZUMBO
Where can I pickup this zumbo statement, I missed it!
Thanks
Where can I pickup this zumbo statement, I missed it!
Thanks
ADKWOODSMAN
Member
ZUMBO
I flound it!!
I flound it!!
RioShooter
Member
Bill Schneider Bio
Nothing in this guy's bio mentions firearms. There is a big difference between an outdoorsman and a hunter. I wonder if he ever packs a firearm on his outdoor adventures?
Travel & Outdoors Editor
Bill Schneider
Former book publisher who for 30 years has been filling in the spaces between fishing trips, hikes and bike rides by writing books and articles about the great outdoors.
Bill Schneider has spent 35 years hiking, fishing, bicycling, hunting, and skiing throughout the Rocky Mountain region, but still hasn’t had enough of it. During college in the mid-1960s, he worked on a trail crew in Glacier National Park and became a hiking addict. He spent the 1970s publishing the Montana Outdoors magazine for the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife & Parks and freelancing for outdoor magazines. In 1979, Bill co-founded Falcon Publishing. As a longtime freelance writer, Bill has written twenty books and many magazine articles on wildlife, outdoor recreation, and environmental issues. For twelve years, he also taught classes on bicycling, backpacking, zero-impact camping, and hiking in bear country for the Yellowstone Institute, a nonprofit educational organization in Yellowstone National Park. Since the early 1980s, he has been helping people train for their first marathon with his “Anybody Can Run a Marathon: clinic. In 2000, Bill retired from his position as president of Falcon Publishing (now part of The Globe Pequot Press) after it had grown into the premier publisher of outdoor recreation guidebooks, now with nearly 1,000 titles in print. He currently lives in Helena, Montana and works as a publishing consultant and freelance writer.
Nothing in this guy's bio mentions firearms. There is a big difference between an outdoorsman and a hunter. I wonder if he ever packs a firearm on his outdoor adventures?
Travel & Outdoors Editor
Bill Schneider
Former book publisher who for 30 years has been filling in the spaces between fishing trips, hikes and bike rides by writing books and articles about the great outdoors.
Bill Schneider has spent 35 years hiking, fishing, bicycling, hunting, and skiing throughout the Rocky Mountain region, but still hasn’t had enough of it. During college in the mid-1960s, he worked on a trail crew in Glacier National Park and became a hiking addict. He spent the 1970s publishing the Montana Outdoors magazine for the Montana Department of Fish, Wildlife & Parks and freelancing for outdoor magazines. In 1979, Bill co-founded Falcon Publishing. As a longtime freelance writer, Bill has written twenty books and many magazine articles on wildlife, outdoor recreation, and environmental issues. For twelve years, he also taught classes on bicycling, backpacking, zero-impact camping, and hiking in bear country for the Yellowstone Institute, a nonprofit educational organization in Yellowstone National Park. Since the early 1980s, he has been helping people train for their first marathon with his “Anybody Can Run a Marathon: clinic. In 2000, Bill retired from his position as president of Falcon Publishing (now part of The Globe Pequot Press) after it had grown into the premier publisher of outdoor recreation guidebooks, now with nearly 1,000 titles in print. He currently lives in Helena, Montana and works as a publishing consultant and freelance writer.
Well, good for you. Why do we keep having to differentiate between gun owners and why they want guns. We (should) have the right to own guns for whatever lawful purpose we want. They don't have to be for hunting. They don't have to be for resisting tyranny. They don't have to be for target shooting...
Until I am given proof that I am wrong, I will continue to believe that people like the above mentioned author are in the minority.
Prince Yamato
Member
Because hunting is a sport, gun ownership is not.
cambeul41
Member
Jim Keenan
You say, “I was once told by an anti-gun activist that "I won't be happy until every one of you gun freaks is shot dead and the gutters run with your blood."
Might I suggest that, if this happens again, you ask her to put it in writing ad sign it?
You say, “I was once told by an anti-gun activist that "I won't be happy until every one of you gun freaks is shot dead and the gutters run with your blood."
Might I suggest that, if this happens again, you ask her to put it in writing ad sign it?
ezypikns
Member
Now THIS is the kind of stuff NO ONE needs to hear.
So if I have FUN with my weapons, and don't imagine every trip to range or field as preparation for Armageddon, there's something wrong with ME?
You might want to tap the brakes on that kind of rhetoric. I don't think I'm going out on too weak a limb here when I assert that MOST of us who shoot AND hunt do so because it's FUN.
So if I have FUN with my weapons, and don't imagine every trip to range or field as preparation for Armageddon, there's something wrong with ME?
You might want to tap the brakes on that kind of rhetoric. I don't think I'm going out on too weak a limb here when I assert that MOST of us who shoot AND hunt do so because it's FUN.
The Freeholder
Member
And HR 1022 is just a figment of my fevered imagination, I suppose?
Sorry, I' calling BS on this guy.
benEzra
Moderator Emeritus
I think those are two sides of the same coin. Shooting is fun, AND self-defense is a fundamental human right. It's not either/or, IMHO, and in reality you have to emphasize both.
British and Australian shooters emphasized the "shooting is fun" aspect in their dealings with the anti-gun movement but downplayed their defensive utility, and it destroyed them in the end.
BTW, dynamic shooting practice IS the most fun...
the pistolero
Member
With all due respect, SteveS, we're all asking that question here, I think. It shouldn't be asked to us; it should be asked to people like this guy, Bill McRae and Charlie Meyers, i.e., the people so derisively referred to as the Fudds. They're the ones who are doing the differentiating between gun owners. As for Prince Yamato pointing out that he owned his weapons for personal defense, it seemed to me that as opposed to making a differentiation or looking down on other uses, he was merely validating his own reason one more time -- and he had every right to, because after all, too many people in our own country don't see personal defense as a valid reason for owning any firearm, let alone an AR or AK-type rifle for those times when something like a handgun or run-of-the-mill hunting rifle -- Jim Zumbo's "sporting firearm" -- just won't do the job.
Pistolero, you have a good point. Sporting purpose enthusiasts that think their guns are the only legitimate ones are obviously wrong, but I think it is just as wrong to assert any other purpose as the correct one. To some, gun ownership is a sport. They are not interested in defensive shooting or the practice that goes with it. I don't share this, but that is their choice.
thirty-thirty
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As far as I can tell, virtually ALL the gun magazines are owned by the same big media conglomerates that want to disarm us. That's why there are no checks and balances to weed out traitors. The same goes for the Outdoor Channel. When will gun owners notice they're purposefully portraying hunters in an unflaterring light? Think about this next time you watch that garbage. All mass media portrays private gun owners in a poor light and the Outdoor Channel is no exception. Isn't it obvious?
There is tons of information of hunting and guns on the internet. Just click your mouse. It's time to quit Outdoor Life, Sports Afield and all those trashy magazines as well as the Outdoor Channel and anything else on teevee. Don't waste your time and money supporting the enemy.
There is tons of information of hunting and guns on the internet. Just click your mouse. It's time to quit Outdoor Life, Sports Afield and all those trashy magazines as well as the Outdoor Channel and anything else on teevee. Don't waste your time and money supporting the enemy.
Pennsylvania Minority Convention recommended amendments:
"7. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals;"
A PERFECT proposal to cover the full intent of the 2nd amendment. I believe those who framed and those who ratified the Bill of Rights had ALL these wonderful reasons in mind when articulating the protection of the right to keep and bear arms.
I am tired of reading "the opinions" of anyone who thinks that the people who are subject to the constant whimsical AND ILLEGAL attempts at removal of this right should NOT be mad as hell whenever confronted with such attacks - no matter how they are expressed or legislated. "Fanatics" should be an understatement!!
We SHOULD ALL BE be deadly angry at all we have lost so far, and all that the liars, the ignorant, or the tryannical representatives who serve us want to take away. Hunters? Shooters? Militia? Collectors? Average Joe and Jane? It does not matter! WE ARE "THE PEOPLE". Damn it - IT IS OUR RIGHT, and it is worth WHATEVER it takes to make sure it remains as such!
"7. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and their own state, or the United States, or for the purpose of killing game; and no law shall be passed for disarming the people or any of them, unless for crimes committed, or real danger of public injury from individuals;"
A PERFECT proposal to cover the full intent of the 2nd amendment. I believe those who framed and those who ratified the Bill of Rights had ALL these wonderful reasons in mind when articulating the protection of the right to keep and bear arms.
I am tired of reading "the opinions" of anyone who thinks that the people who are subject to the constant whimsical AND ILLEGAL attempts at removal of this right should NOT be mad as hell whenever confronted with such attacks - no matter how they are expressed or legislated. "Fanatics" should be an understatement!!
We SHOULD ALL BE be deadly angry at all we have lost so far, and all that the liars, the ignorant, or the tryannical representatives who serve us want to take away. Hunters? Shooters? Militia? Collectors? Average Joe and Jane? It does not matter! WE ARE "THE PEOPLE". Damn it - IT IS OUR RIGHT, and it is worth WHATEVER it takes to make sure it remains as such!
bogie
Member
Campers, we're forgetting something.
If we fragment as a group, with the Black Rifle folks looking down on the hunters, and the hunters calling the black rifle folks all sorts of vile names, we will lose.
We've got to come together. That means tolerance within, and education within.
Can you do it? It may suck sometimes, but in the end, it'll be worth it.
It's kinda like dealing with a dog who just had to irritate that black & white "kitty." You really, really don't wanna shoot the dog... So you suck it up, and whip out the tomato juice...
If we fragment as a group, with the Black Rifle folks looking down on the hunters, and the hunters calling the black rifle folks all sorts of vile names, we will lose.
We've got to come together. That means tolerance within, and education within.
Can you do it? It may suck sometimes, but in the end, it'll be worth it.
It's kinda like dealing with a dog who just had to irritate that black & white "kitty." You really, really don't wanna shoot the dog... So you suck it up, and whip out the tomato juice...
chas_martel
Member
I still don't understand why everyone is so up in arms about
the potential for an AWB2.
I mean, since we always take the highroad and that means
obeying all laws, what's the problem? They pass a law
taking our arms why get in a tizzy, just take the high road
and turn them over. That way you will sleep well at night
knowing you did not cause offense to anyone. QED.
the potential for an AWB2.
I mean, since we always take the highroad and that means
obeying all laws, what's the problem? They pass a law
taking our arms why get in a tizzy, just take the high road
and turn them over. That way you will sleep well at night
knowing you did not cause offense to anyone. QED.
bogie
Member
Just goes to show that too much cognac can be bad for you...
ezypikns
Member
I am a gun owner.
I am also a hunter.
I am also a shooter.
I also have a concealed carry license.
I shoot to be prepared.
I shoot to hunt.
I shoot for fun.
I support your right to do anything from the above list, with ANY firearm you please. And your right to OWN any firearm you please.
But you JUST PISS ME OFF when you accuse me of "dousing myself in deer piss in order to kill Bambi".
If you don't approve of how I spend my spare time, fine. But please keep remarks like that to yourself.
And I will tell you that there are thousands of people like myself out there. We see our right to hunt as an old and cherished tradition. If you keep making remarks like those, we may still support your 2nd ammendment rights, but no longer consider you as a friend.
The door swings BOTH ways.
I am also a hunter.
I am also a shooter.
I also have a concealed carry license.
I shoot to be prepared.
I shoot to hunt.
I shoot for fun.
I support your right to do anything from the above list, with ANY firearm you please. And your right to OWN any firearm you please.
But you JUST PISS ME OFF when you accuse me of "dousing myself in deer piss in order to kill Bambi".
If you don't approve of how I spend my spare time, fine. But please keep remarks like that to yourself.
And I will tell you that there are thousands of people like myself out there. We see our right to hunt as an old and cherished tradition. If you keep making remarks like those, we may still support your 2nd ammendment rights, but no longer consider you as a friend.
The door swings BOTH ways.
bogie
Member
Dude... Face it... Polite society has to draw the line somewhere.
I mean, we love you man, but... Well, how to gently put this...
No offense, but that crap stinks worse than catfish bait.
You and your boomsticks are welcome, but puhleeeze take a shower before hitting the pub to tell everyone about the one that got away... I might be the fellow sitting next to your fragrant camo-clad self...
(I've actually got a friend whose wife, after episode #1, and last..., insists that he and his buds rent a motel and shower before coming home... They're bowhunters, and I think they more or less douse themselves in that crap...)
As for Bambi... Ain't never seen a deer leap into a freezer all by itself.. They need help.
Truce?
I mean, we love you man, but... Well, how to gently put this...
No offense, but that crap stinks worse than catfish bait.
You and your boomsticks are welcome, but puhleeeze take a shower before hitting the pub to tell everyone about the one that got away... I might be the fellow sitting next to your fragrant camo-clad self...
(I've actually got a friend whose wife, after episode #1, and last..., insists that he and his buds rent a motel and shower before coming home... They're bowhunters, and I think they more or less douse themselves in that crap...)
As for Bambi... Ain't never seen a deer leap into a freezer all by itself.. They need help.
Truce?
BADUNAME14
Member
I was a little irritated by the deer piss and bambi remark. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Hunting is not just a silly pastime. Some people think it is silly because they can go to wal-mart and buy a steak. What would happen if your grocery stores ran out of food?
Our forefathers wanted us to be armed to repel invaders and resist tyranny. Our government doesn't want us sheeple to resist tyranny, they are the tyrants. Of course they are going to ban the tools of resistance. If we don't defend our constitutional rights our children won't have any. It's probably already too late. Just by Democrats being elected back into office I can tell not enough of us know to protect our second amendment.
Our forefathers wanted us to be armed to repel invaders and resist tyranny. Our government doesn't want us sheeple to resist tyranny, they are the tyrants. Of course they are going to ban the tools of resistance. If we don't defend our constitutional rights our children won't have any. It's probably already too late. Just by Democrats being elected back into office I can tell not enough of us know to protect our second amendment.
Prince Yamato
Member
Ok, I'll apologize for the Bambi remark. I posted it out of frustration with what I believe is a sporting-only mentality with a lot of gun owners. I have no problem that you hunt. I have no problem with the SPORT of hunting. I do have a problem with the "hunting-only" culture. Yes, you are free to do what you want with your guns, but look above; I said I own weapons for defense and someone accuses me of being an end-times nut. No, I'm not preparing for armageddon. Like I said, I'd be a blubbering mess if I had to shoot anybody (implying ONE person, self-defense, not a mess of people from atop the city hall clock-tower)...
ANYhow, the bambi comment was not in the best of taste... so... I again apologize...
ANYhow, the bambi comment was not in the best of taste... so... I again apologize...
bogie
Member
The crap still stinks worse than week old road kill.
In August.
Do the rest of the world a favor, and shower before returning to civilization. You'll make a MUCH better impression upon those folks who you'll run into.
In August.
Do the rest of the world a favor, and shower before returning to civilization. You'll make a MUCH better impression upon those folks who you'll run into.
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