Are all 22's Jam-O-Matics?

[sigbear]

I had a ruger MKIII SS 5.5" barrel and a Marlin model 60 rifle (still have it), got rid of the ruger after 2 years because I hate gun's that jam, it just takes the fun out of shooting for me.

I have tried every Ammo out their and the CCI mini mags seem to work best for the Ruger 22 I had.

The marlin also jams at least once in every 25 shots since I bought it new about 20-25 years ago. I must say I never used the mini mags in the 60 because I haven't shot it in years, only Winchester, remington, and federal 500/550 box ammo.

Is there a semi auto available out their that will eat any ammo you put through it without jamming all the time, rifle or handgun?

Sigbear

 

[janobles14]

both sound like they may have acquired some leading over the years. might try and super cleaning of all integral parts.

but yes i think at some point most .22's jam. though ive put countless rounds thru my 10/22 and dont recall it ever jamming (though it might have and i just dont remember).

 

[1KPerDay]

Try a MKI or MKII rather than the MKIII.

Also my 10/22 has never jammed (with the stock magazine).

You might also try a nice revolver or bolt-action.

 

[UnTainted]

My browning buckmark 5.5 nickel has never ever had a failure of any kind, and I think I've cleaned it twice since 2000.

 

[Timthinker]

NO! Now that I have answered the question, let me provide some more details drawn from my own experiences. I have owned a varied of .22 rimfire firearms in my life and none of them were jam-o-matics. One of the most reliable .22 rifles I owned was a Ruger 10/22. In fact, it proved so dependable that I often compared it to the legendary AK-47 in terms of mechanical reliability. So to repeat me earlier response, I do not consider all .22 rimfires jam-o-matics, although I acknowledge that a rimmed cartridge is not the best cartridge design for a semi-automatic firearm.

No doubt others with a greater degree of mechanical knowledge than myself will address the issue of rimfire reliability, but my own experience leads me to deny the validity of the charge made here. I hope this helps.


Timthinker

 

[Danus ex]

I also have a 100% reliable 10/22. I haven't even cleaned it in about 1500 rounds. I don't really like how it shoots, though.

 

[Funderb]

I don't think a two test sample of all the .22s on the market is sufficient evidence to think that "all .22s are jamomatics"....

Try something by stevens or savage.

 

[KBintheSLC]

Funny, my situation is opposite of some others. My MKIII is rocksteady, and my 10/22 jams regularly. To its defense, it usually fails with the aftermarket, high-cap mags, and cheap bulk ammo.

The MKIII eats everything... like a garbage disposal.

If you are not into it, there are a number of great .22 revolvers on the market that won't jam.

 

[texfed]

I dunno....my Mk2, 10/22, charger 10/22 (only use factory mags on these two)and Winchester 290 never jam!

 

[rcmodel]

Are all 22's Jam-O-Matics?

NO!

I have a very early 10/22 that has never jammed with factory mags. Not true with 30 round aftermarkets though.

I have a Browning .22 Auto that I have owned since 1970. I don't think it has ever jammed that I can remember.

Same with two 9422 Winchester lever-actions, and half a gun cabinet full of old Winchester pumps.
They just don't ever jam, ever.

Handguns?
Model 41 S&W, three Colt Woodsman, and an Astra Constable have all been perfectly reliable.

But I don't shoot Wally-World bulk pack crappy .22 ammo either.

And I keep them all clean & lubed properly.

rcmodel

 

[CRITGIT]

Simple and regular cleaning of the bolt face extractor area can improve your mileage. Addditionally on 1022's proper tensioning of the BX-1 Magazine helps a ton.

A small "junior size" tooth brush is a great tool.

CRITGIT

 

[mgkdrgn]

Is there a semi auto available out their that will eat any ammo you put through it without jamming all the time, rifle or handgun?

Sigbear

Well, lets see, I've been shooting my Remington Nylon 77 at least once a month for the last, oh, 35+ years now, and I think I can count on one hand the times it has "jammed", and 4 of them were my problem.

 

[NotSoFast]

Opposite experience from OP

Neither my Savage Mark II FV nor my Advantage Arms conversion for my Glock 17 jam.

 

[A square 10]

ive had some jambs with my ceinar conversion in the ARs , but not my dedicated upper ,



having said that ive had not one problem with any others , my military trainers nor my commercials ,

the 10/22 runs flawlessly , the 1950s remington nylon 66 even when filthy is smooth ,



i realise you were speaking semis but the marlin and the henry never fail me



and in handguns ive got a mkII[not the mkIII-but not sure that matters] and a histandard sportking , they both are totaly dependable



and you could always go to a wheel gun for reliability - colt fronteir and H&R sportsman



even my antiques work perfectly

 

[sarduy]

Is there a semi auto available out their that will eat any ammo you put through it without jamming all the time, rifle or handgun?

Yes, it's called Savage Mark II (bolt action)

and a Savage 62/64 Semi

 

[koja48]

Browning semis, 10/22s (I adjust mag spring tension to the ammo I use), Marlin 39A, Ruger Mark III, S&W 622 . . . nope . . . I'm either lucky or I take regular care of the actions & extractors and don't shoot a lot of bulk ammo.

 

[06]

Like MGK, I cannot remember a jam in my Nylon 66, 10-22s either. My Browning Buckmark has never jammed to the best of my knowledge. I plink with Rem/Fed bulk paks but keep mags loaded with Stingers. I have my 22s zeroed at 100 yds-the Stingers shoot 4" higher than the bulk ammo. wc

 

[matrem]

Have an "82" 10/22,6-8000rds? Can count jams with Ruger mags on both hands.(three of those were in the same evening after a "thorough" cleaning??) My MK II is not quite as dependable,but I'd still call it 99%.
Treated right,they are NOT "Jam O Matics".

 

[browningguy]

Even .22's need to be cleaned and lubricated properly. I have two .22 rifles (browning, ruger) and five .22 pistols, none have jamming problems.

 

[Bartkowski]

My marlin 60's will jam from time to time if I use dirty ammo. My ruger mk II (which I have only shoot a couple of times) hasn't jammed with any ammo. I shoot federal bulk from wal-mart, remington thunderbolts, and some cheap winchester bulk. Nothing high quality.

 

[koja48]

Oops, forgot a Buckmark carbine . . . still "nope." Some wax-coated/poorly lubricated bulk ammo can cause FTF in any semi, so I avoid it like the plague.

 

[HeadlandRam]

My mark 2 has jammed occasionally but that is only when I shoot it constantly for a year or so and do not clean it. Now since I clean it religiously like an AR I have not had one jam. My grandad has a marlin mdl 60 and he cleans it rarely an dhe has not had one jam.

 

[Z71]

I really have not had all that much trouble with my semi-auto .22 rifles and pistols!

I currently own an older model Ruger 10-22, a Remington Nylon 66(brown), a Browning Buckmark standard pistol, a Hi-Standard HD Military pistol, a Taurus PT-22, and a Jennings J-22.

I do have a Springfield 187 thats the mother of all jammers, but it's had help to arrive at it's sad condition! A long and sordid tale of a previous owner that never cleaned, and tried to fix the feed mechanism with a screwdriver when it's reliability when it did start jamming(instead of cleaning!).

The little PT-22 had some issues but I figured them out and fixed that. The J-22 is a jammer with the wrong ammo, and only likes CCI Stingers.

The rest run fine. Few or no issues besides an occasional dud round or the rare bobble once in a blue moon.

I have fixed more than one Jam-O-Matic .22 with a dang good cleaning.

Rimfire rifles and pistols with removable magazines can suffer mag issues too. However, for the most part mine really have not had anything of the sort. I do have an older 10-22 10 shot mag I had to take apart and clean, then add some extra tension to the wind up spring.

Uhmmm...really no major issues here.

 

[Savage Shooter]

HAHA a model 60 jamming your kidding right
I shot mine for 2 years after buying it and only cleaned the bore then I got some jams so I took a can of ether and sprayed the living crap out of the action and bolt and oiled it and havn't had a jam since. Clean it right, clean it reguraly, and use remington golden bullets(at least for me),and you shouldn't ever have a jam.

 

[wanderinwalker]

Is there a semi auto available out their that will eat any ammo you put through it without jamming all the time, rifle or handgun?

Yes! Oddly enough, the two you have/had are normally some of the most trouble free.

My 10/22 and 22/45 Mark III both run great. Yes, they do malfunction from time to time, and every once in a while a case will get stuck or something, but they mostly just work. I've burned between 20,000 and 23,000 rounds of .22LR in the last 2-3 years, mostly bulk pack stuff. The true problems are relatively rare, but more frequent on the bulk pack stuff, which has major lot-to-lot variance, in my experience.

Honestly, I think .22 function problems are 75% ammo related, 23% maintanence issues and 2% you just got one that won't work. Or maybe that's 23/75/2.