Are all 22's Jam-O-Matics?

[TexasRifleman]

A-Square 10, I have that same Hi Standard Sport King with both the long and short barrel. Yours is the only other one I've ever seen anywhere.

It was my grandfather's lake house pistol, one of my favorite plinkers.

Too cool. Neat little guns. Wish I could find some magazines for it. It's been reliable with the right ammo.

 

[Geno]

Are all 22's Jam-O-Matics?

That must be what's wrong with my T/C Contender!!! I have to individually insert and extract each and every single round of ammo! Stinkin' jam-o-matics.

Seriously now, there are several great .22LRs. Not all are 22's Jam-O-Matics.

 

[22-rimfire]

The only jam-a-matics that I have run across are the AR-7's. The early Remington 597's had a problem but it has been largely fixed.

ALL semi-automatic 22's jam occasionally. It is a combination of rifle or magazine design, dirt, ammo selection, and ammo quality.

If you're deeply concerned about it, I'd shoot bolts and pump action 22 rifles and revolvers in handguns. I'm not deeply concerned about it.

 

[foghornl]

My 10/22 and MKII pistol work with MOST ammo...but both choked on some old Rem "Thunderbolt" ammo. That ammo was the plain lead solid version.

Make SURE that the bolt face, chamber and extractor areas are spotless. That for me seems to be the key.

My $20 pawn-shop-rescue Marlin 99 had a lot of problems when I first got it. Removing the action from the stock and a 4-hour soak-n-swish in a tub of mineral spirits fixed that. I must have gotten at least 2 pounds of 'assorted crud' out of the Marlin action.

One other thing...the Nylon 66 I had as a teen shot everything well..except for the Rem 36-Gr "Golden Bullet" HP. choked every time on those...Go figure....a Rem rifle that choked on Rem ammo.

 

[Art Eatman]

I had a Rem 550 way, way back, and it never jammed with mix/match shorts, longs, long rifles. I've read that the 552 is good.

Had a 10/22 that never jammed. Took a while to find an ammo it like, for decent groups.

I now use an old Walther Model 2, which is uber reliable and uber accurate.

 

[rangerruck]

yeah, your mod 60! two things; clean the ring around the chamber face, clean the teeth of the extractor clip thingies, and take out the action/ turn over, there will be a hard stiff wire, sitting in a notch, in the side of the action, it points into the center of the chamber. Take a needle nose, and bend that wire a bit more up, and shorter towards the center, of the chamber.

 

[Bostekrisco]

I have the same two guns as the OP. The Ruger's never given me a problem that I can remember. The Marlin had a problem when it was new until I cleaned and oiled it. It does fine with Federal bulk pack now. It still doesn't seem to like Remington Golden bulk pack.

Actually, I do remember a day at the range where the Ruger hung up a couple of times but it seemed isolated to one particular magazine. IIRC I whacked the mag on the table a couple of times and worked the spring some and it cleared up.

 

[jjohnson]

Clean autos

No, they don't all jam.

The Ruger 10/22 and auto MKI, 22/45 (can't speak for MKIII) don't do that if they're cleaned properly.

I have noted some hollow point ammo, most notably Winchester Dyna-point, jams a lot, but most of the rest of it does just fine, and CCI Mini-Mags are a great example.

My Rem Nylon 77, all my Rugers, and even a Squires Bingham I bought at K-Mart long ago all eat thousands of ammo before they really crud up and start to jam, but I do go through tons of rimfire - and jamming isn't a problem with factory mags and relatively clean action.

 

[georgeky]

Most model 60's I ever seen jam were ammo related. Some of the bulk ammo is just not hot enough to cycle the action correctly. The last box of Rem 500/550 bulk box I got had a great difference in the report from one shot to another. Of course my Marlin 39A digested them without flaw. My two model 60's would not.

Try some more expensive ammo from your local gun shop.

 

[swampshooter]

Texasrifleman, It's my understanding that high standard used the same basic frame for all their pistols. Brownell's has clips, if you call and talk to a product specialist i think you can buy a clip, the only difference being that it might stick out of the frame a little at the bottom, but would still function fine. Most of the time these clips require the front lips to be tightened slightly before they feed reliably.

 

[Geno]

These are my .22LRs. They range from serious tools, to weekend plinking toys. However, they all have one thing in common: they are reliable, and really fun.

 

[ScottyT]

My new 10/22 failed to eject maybe 5 times in its first 100 rounds. I was using the really cheap stuff, so that is probably it. I will hold judgment until I run it with some better ammo.

 

[DRYHUMOR]

My Beretta 87 doesn't jam

 

[HaveBlue83]

I have a mossburg plinkster I got a wal-mart and that thing will EAT UP ammo.....we went through a brink one day in 2 ours just for fun....lol I have shot the no-gunpowder rounds out of it and manually cycled the bolt but they extracted fine

My Bolt-Action Remington 511-X's extractor comes loose from time to time...just a design flaw, as well as those crappy tacked together mags...ugh..... Other than that I don't have a lot of FTF/FTE's on my .22's I clean then every so often. My 511-x is more accurate dirty....hehehe.....

 

[CajunBass]

Personally, I've never owned a gun that was a "jam-O-matic."

Maybe the problem ain't with your guns?

 

[wingman]

I haven't even cleaned it in about 1500 rounds. I don't really like how it shoots, though.

Had to smile at the above, 22 ammo is normally dirty.

Keep them clean and then if they jam its the ammo.

 

[lonegunman]

I have a Ruger 10/22 I bought 28 years ago and it never jams. I have a Ruger MKII Government model that has over 70,000 rounds thru it with a jam every few thousand rounds.

MKIII is crap, that goofy loaded chamber indicator probably has something to do with it jamming all the time.

Clean 22's rarely, oil them often and use high velocity ammo and they seem to run forever.

 

[mgregg85]

My ruger mkII and 10/22 will jamb if not kept clean. Ussually this will start to happen pretty high in the round count after the last cleaning. I've found that a heavy squirt of break free CLP tends to help keep them running until they can be cleaned again. My marlin 60 tends to jam a bit more frequently but it too seems to respond to a nice, heavy oiling with break free CLP.

I believe it just has to do with how damn dirty .22 LR is. That and the propensity of shooters to blow through 500 to 1000 rounds in a single outing.

 

[koja48]

Doc

Nice selection/collection!

 

[dmazur]

I have a Browning SA-22 and a Ruger MkII.

Both are reliable, but I clean them both fairly often so I don't know what they would do if they ran in "dirt".

+1 to semi-autos getting dirty. I reload .45ACP and the 1911's get pretty dirty, too. Must be what happens with recoil-operated semi's, especially blowback designs.

Of course, if you get into a gas gun, other things get dirty. The Garand bolt stays pretty clean, but the gas cylinder needs a little attention now and then.