battle of the budgets (a review 2 years in the making)

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hello all,
a couple years ago I decided to waste a whole lot of dollars so that other people wouldn't have to. ok to be a little less facetious, I started going back to college and had a lot of poor college students asking for advice on decent handguns that could still be had on a college students budget. so I began purchasing a number of low price tag handguns in order to compare and contrast and build an educated opinion. today I finally had the chance to shoot the most recent one and I think I might have enough information to build an unbiased review. these guns are all 9mm and all pictures are stock photos for several reasons, mostly because I didn't like most of them enough to take pictures. so without further Adieu, here are 4 low budget handguns that may be of interest in no particular order.

1. Arcus 98 DA ($325). The Arcus 98 DA (DA/SA) is probably the roughest handgun I've ever owned. it is to the handgun world what the mosin nagant is to the rifle community. it is not winning any fashion contests, and it is riddled with tool marks and non-rounded edges. the 2 15 round magazines are cheaply made and have some sharp edges which really hurt your thumbs after a hard day of loading magazines. however that's about the extent of negative things I can say about the 98. the trigger was heavy, but crisp, similar to a lower end 1911. the model I got had rubber overmolded grips, similar to hogue wrap arounds which fit my hands nicely (large hands) but there are also non-wrap around grips available for certain models for people with smaller hands. the finish appeared to be a form of parkerizing so long term wear is not expected, although some internals and magazines have a really thin bluing so rust may be a factor in highly humid environments. the sights did come misaligned from the factory so I did end up dropping an additional $25 for my local range to drift the sights for me. there is almost no aftermarket support for this model(holsters, modifications, etc)
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Summary: it's rough but functional, it'll get the job done, but you probably won't have much fun doing it.

2. Canik TP9(first generation) ($365). The Canik TP9(DA/SA) was a new concept for me. I had never seen a DA/SA striker gun before, and had never seen a striker gun with a decocker(I was not aware of the walther P99 at the time). the canik was a little bulky, and the trigger was a little fatter than I'm used to (a wide flat piece of plastic). the 2 18 round magazines were excellent quality and the freebee retention holster that came with it was actually really nice, so long as you used the belt loop attachment rather than the paddle holster attachment which did absolutely nothing to keep the holster attached to your belt or hooked to your pocket. the slide was heavily coated with a cerakote type material and was fairly durable, I think mostly due to the sheer amount of it. the gun was horribly unreliable out of the box. it failed to return to battery about 75% of the time so a trip back to Century was in order. thankfully Century's customer service was excellent and they fixed it right up. I never had a failure after that, unless you count the failure to hit what you were aiming at, which was a serious concern. it was horribly inaccurate, which is more than likely related to my ability to shoot it accurately. the trigger travel was quite long in DA although SA was not so bad but pull weight in both modes was quite heavy. the gun fit my hand well but that was about the only saving grace it had when all was said and done. (there is little aftermarket support for this model specifically, however I have heard unconfirmed claims that the dimensions are close enough to a P99 that holsters and such designed for the P99 will work).
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Summary:the worst handgun I have ever owned. I really wanted to like it, but it just wasn't in the cards.

3. Ruger 9e ($299). The cheapest gun on this list but probably my favorite(still trying to remain unbiased). the Ruger 9E is a cheapened version of the SR9, with all the goodies taken away. the only handgun on this list that comes with only a single 17 round magazine, which did not bother me so much as I already owned an SR9 so I had spares, but may be an issue for people who are buying this as their first handgun. the ergonomics are the same as the SR9, fairly well suited for medium sized hands but I'm able to make it work with the reversible backstrap. the finish on the slide is a cheaper bluing which has yet to show wear, granted it hasn't seen and overly large amount of use, or carry. the slide is angled rather than rounded but it still fits in all of my SR9 holsters so aftermarket is not an issue. it is fairly accurate and the trigger is similar to the SR9, although I still have yet to break it in so there is still a bit of a grittiness to it after a couple hundred rounds. to offer full disclosure, I removed the magazine disconnect right out of the box, so I have no information on it's reliability during high stress reloads(not that it's too much of an issue considering it only has one mag unless you buy a spare). I was actually able to score a couple hits on an oxygen tank at 200 yards(no that is not a typo) with it, granted that was 2 hits out of a 17 round mag. I have actually used this handgun to train a friend on handgun safety and proficiency and it served the role admirably, it will likely act as a truck gun/loaner/trainer for the rest of the foreseeable future.
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Summary: this is the only $300 gun that I would recommend for a new gun owner. it's been reliable, accurate, and has the best aftermarket availability.

4. Canik TP9SF ($380). last but not least the Canik TP9SF. to be honest I had to talk myself into buying this handgun. my experience with the TP9 really colored my opinion of Canik as a whole but I figured I would give them one more chance. the SF is the latest in the new line of TP9 hanguns. it gets rid of the decocker and replaces the DA/SA setup with a SAO setup. the trigger is crisp and clean, although still slightly heavier than most striker guns. trigger travel is pretty short with reset being extremely short. the grip shape and textures are different and it takes different magazines than the original, although they are still 18 round capacity (comes with 2 mags), and still very high quality mags at that. the retention holster has been updated and now can be used as either a belt loop or paddle without having to swap parts around. the paddle actually stays put as well so no accidentally drawing the holster like the old model. this gun is far easier to shoot accurately and it is fairly close to zeroed from the factory. it still has the same heavy cerakote type finish, but seems little less "gloppy" with the application. there is a slowly growing aftermarket base for the new generation Caniks, but since it is such a vast difference from the P99-ish early TP9s, it is probably safe to say that aftermarket items intended for the P99 will not work on the SF. although I only have a little over 100 rounds through it, thus far, it has yet to fail in any way.
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Summary: The best gun on this list in my opinion. despite being the most expensive. I would not hesitate to recommend it.

Winner? Canik TP9SF. I am pleasantly surprised with the SF. as far as the total package goes, you end up with a decently accurate, not-unreliable, handgun with outstanding ammo capacity(only the springfield XDM has higher ammo capacity in 9mm that I'm aware of), and comes with a fully serviceable retention holster if you would like to practice open carry. however I would be remiss if I did not point out that it is the most expensive model in this list and if a person bought a spare mag and serpa style holster for the Ruger 9E, you would end up with a fairly comparable package for a fairly comparable price, from an american based company (I just had to throw that little jab in there).

I also should point out, that given the price range, that is assuming a completely rigid budget for handguns, not able to spend one penny above $380. not included in this list are 2 handguns which I acquired for $400 and $420(before sales tax) respectively, the Ruger SR9 compact and the Springfield XD-S 4" both also 9mm handguns. when comparing the guns in this list to those models, the specs of the TP9SF begin to fall a bit short, especially if the potential buyer in question is hoping to carry concealed as all of the guns on this list are full sized service models. so there you go, as unbiased as I could make it. let me know your thoughts.
 
Well as I mentioned over on TFL (as JDW) I'm partial to the newer Caniks. I haven't shot any of the guns you mentioned but from what I understand the TP9SF is pretty similar to my TP9SA, which I wholeheartedly love.

I would not hesitate to recommend one of the newer TP9's to anyone. I have right at 1000rds through mine without a single issue and the trigger is bar none.

From what I've seen it's the best $350 plastic pistol available right now.
 
yep the only difference I'm aware of between the SA and SF is that the SA still has the decocker, which makes zero sense to me because hitting that would completely prevent the gun from operating without racking the slide.
 
Yea the decocker doesn't worry me like it does some folks. I'm not "in love" with the feature but it's certainly not a deal breaker.

IMHO it has the same arguments as a mag disconnect, which I'm not a fan of either, but hasn't stopped me from buying a gun of the sort.
 
tahunua001

Nice review of the four pistols. If I were shopping for (or recommending one to a friend), an economy priced 9mm. I would probably go with the Ruger 9E. I have a Ruger SR9c and went with it over a Glock 19, SA XD(M) 3.8 Compact, and a S&W M&P Compact after trying them all out. Most ergonomic (for me at least), great sights, and best trigger, along with Ruger's excellent customer service, made it an easy choice for me.
 
Very nice, thank you. I wasn't aware that Arcus was still in business, thought they died a while ago. Didn't know about the budget Ruger pistol - I know someone who is looking for something cheap and good. Thank you for the excellent reviews.
 
The SA TP9 has a decocker for field stripping, so you don't have to pull the trigger.

The Arcus 98 is the DA/SA version, but I believe it still uses quite a few BHP parts. The Arcus 94 is just a blocky BHP.
 
No Taurus pt111g2? Your really missing out, and so am I. I don't care for polymer framed guns and can't force myself to like them, but the pt111g2 is an incredible gun for the $250 or less that they can be found for. I would wholeheartedly recommend the pt111g2 to new shooters in the poly 9mm market. If in the full size 9mm market I recommend and let them shoot my pt92. For new shooters in the revolver market I have and will continue to recommend the Taurus 85 (not ul) or the Heritage Rough Rider 22lr which has somewhat recently come under the Taurus umbrella. The other guns I would recommend are the European military surplus guns.

And in long guns, Marlin 60, Ruger American or Savage Axis, Remington 870. Hi Point 995 if they want a pcc.
 
You should check out the EAA witness line in 9mm poly. This would include the Sar b6p. I like these both way more than my Canik tp9sa and they were under $300.

Others to check out would be the Zastava cz999, Taurus pt809 fullsize and the Girsan Regard 9mm.

The used F.E.G m35's can be had in good shape for sub $300 used and is a faithful Browning Hipower without the Arcus issues.
Used cz999's are on Gunbroker for under $250 and are tried and true military sidearms. Good functioning guns but need refinishing.
 
I have thought about the witness a few times but nobody in my area can even get them in and I guess I never know when to look for the best pricing on them online.
 
I've got a Ruger 9e ordered from sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com, for $289 shipped. I'm really looking forward to shooting it. I currently have an SR9-C and its been an outstanding pistol, really nice trigger.
 
I have thought about the witness a few times but nobody in my area can even get them in and I guess I never know when to look for the best pricing on them online.

Robertson's trading post on gunbroker has SARS and eaa's occasionally. They have a eaa poly up there now for under $300.

Aggressive Guns has the Sar b6p for $269. Both of these sellers have layaway as well.
 
No Taurus pt111g2? Your really missing out, and so am I. I don't care for polymer framed guns and can't force myself to like them, but the pt111g2 is an incredible gun for the $250 or less that they can be found for. I would wholeheartedly recommend the pt111g2 to new shooters in the poly 9mm market. If in the full size 9mm market I recommend and let them shoot my pt92. For new shooters in the revolver market I have and will continue to recommend the Taurus 85 (not ul) or the Heritage Rough Rider 22lr which has somewhat recently come under the Taurus umbrella. The other guns I would recommend are the European military surplus guns.

And in long guns, Marlin 60, Ruger American or Savage Axis, Remington 870. Hi Point 995 if they want a pcc.
Plus one on the Taurus 85, but Id take it a step further and recommend the UL version as well, I have named mine the "J frame Killer" since I have put over 3500 rounds through it with no issues at all, cant say the same thing for my 637 a more expensive revolver that needed timing work after 350 rounds.
 
Another vote for the pt111 g2 it has been a great 9mm for me.

You can count me as another vote for the PT 111 G2. I am not in love with the blued finish or where the trigger breaks but it is a wonderful pistol for what I paid for it (around $226 after shipping & transfer).
 
thanks for the recommendations guys. I'll take them under advisement and who knows... maybe I'll extend the series a bit. :D
 
Sr9 economy
Eaa witness
S&w sd9ve (version 2)
Canik
Ria 1911
Walther ppx
Xd essentials (a bit north of 300)
And some more I'm forgetting. There are a lot of decent choices around $300 and the ones I listed are new full size models and don't include any of the great single stack options or trade ins at that price point.

Good write up and hopefully it helps steer some folks away from some lesser options.
 
I've never seen a RIA 1911 for less than $450 new... can you list a specific model? I would love to add one of those to the list.
 
Tss has them for $395

Atwood's had a 1911 model on sale for $329 today when I was in there. I thought I remembered it being a rock island but it may have been something else. I'm not a 1911 guy and wasn't paying much attention to it so I could have easily been mistaken about the model today.
 
No Taurus pt111g2? Your really missing out,

Agreed. If we're talking budget pistols, the Taurus PT-111 Gen. 2 is definitely one to consider.

I've only had mine for about six months, but once I worked out what powder/bullet combination it liked, it has eaten every factory or reloaded round I have fed through it without a problem. I've read of people getting guns that were not right on the Taurus owner forum, but most people seem to get one that shoots well (but a little to the low and left) right out of the box and if you do have problems, Taurus has a lifetime warranty.
 
I have never considered a Hi point. the reason I haven't is 2 fold. I've handled a couple and could never bring myself to like them. the manual of arms is not only complicated, but also vastly different from about 90% of the other handguns out there(the mag release tab at the bottom of the grip instead of behind the trigger guard comes to mind). if a person intended on buying a single handgun for the rest of their lives, sure a hi point might not be so bad but if a person learns on a hi point then adjusting to a more standard configuration handgun down the road might be difficult. secondly is that they are not very durable. I had a buddy in the Navy who bragged about how many times he broke his hi point. now admittedly, he was way rougher on it than most people are and he did it to see if hi point would eventually stop fixing it under warranty. last I knew, he had an entire shoebox of hi point mags from all the extras they would send back after it was repaired, (of which he claimed only about half of them fed reliably) and they still had not made any attempt to deny repair services on it. now that is actually a good thing and good on hi point for doing that but the fact remains that they are not invincible and as such, I would probably not want to spend money on one to test otherwise.

as for the taurus, I am slowly starting to get interested. I personally hate taurus, I've seen more tauruses lock up so tight they couldn't be cleared on the range than any other handgun. the only brand I've seen more failures in is glock, but none of those were as serious of malfunctions as the taurus, and to really burst people's bubbles, one of them was a revolver (the supposed malfunction-proof handgun). if I can pick one up for the $250 range that people online are claiming, I'll gladly try out the taurus pt111, but I do have pretty low expectations of it ranking against any of the guns on that list.
 
Another vote for the taurus pt111g2.
Picked 1 up nib for $225 out the door. It has a lot of features for a budget 9mm. The misses wanted an compact auto for cc.
2 13 round mags
striker fired
3-dot sights with fully adjustable rear sight
several safety/carry setups
rail for light/laser
Probably the best feature on this compact 9mm is the empty chamber indicator. I don't care for them myself but this thing flat out works. It's in line with the sights and the shooter picks up on it without even realizing it. To me that's a huge + when decisions have to be made in a hurry. Namely hit the loud button again or rack the slide.

So far there's only been a little over 4,000 rounds down the tube in that pt111g2 testing several different factory loads and a bunch of reloads using 2 different cast bullets. It has yet to have a malfunction of any kind.
 
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