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Benchmade gun destruction
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Oh my . . .
CoalTrain49
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People who can afford a Yeti cooler can afford to destroy them and buy another brand cooler, and likely will. If they couldn't they wouldn't destroy the one they have. Not so much a big deal. You probably aren't going to intentionally destroy your ride unless you can afford to replace it.
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CraigC
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So if you buy a $300 cooler you can afford to destroy one? If you have something nicer than a $30 Walmart cooler, you have money to burn? Therefore the symbolic destruction really has little meaning? That's an odd and potentially insulting generalization to make. I can "afford" a Yeti cooler but I didn't get that way by throwing money away.
Elkins45
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I wonder who has contributed more to anti-gun politicians, Benchmade or our current President?
Why does one get a pass and the other doesn’t?
Why does one get a pass and the other doesn’t?
CoalTrain49
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There seems to be very little tolerance for that kind of thinking on gun forums. I expect you'll get considerable blow-back even tho it's a good question to ask. I had a bad experience when I pointed it out on another forum so be careful how far you go with that.
CoalTrain49
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So if you buy a $300 cooler you can afford to destroy one? If you have something nicer than a $30 Walmart cooler, you have money to burn? Therefore the symbolic destruction really has little meaning? That's an odd and potentially insulting generalization to make. I can "afford" a Yeti cooler but I didn't get that way by throwing money away.
Not following any of that. Sorry.
Gridley
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There seems to be very little tolerance for that kind of thinking on gun forums. I expect you'll get considerable blow-back even tho it's a good question to ask. I had a bad experience when I pointed it out on another forum so be careful how far you go with that.
That's my impression as well, which somewhat surprises me.
Granted, my opinion remains that Trump is far better on RKBA issues than Hillary would have been.
However just because someone is *better* doesn't mean they're *good*. I could easily have missed something, but the most pro-gun thing I've seen Trump do was relax export restrictions. Sure, that's nice, but in my view it is far overshadowed by the bump stock ban (mostly because of the way that was structured). Then there's his vocal support for Red Flag laws.
This also ties in to Benchmade giving money to their state politicians. I haven't looked up voting records as some here have, but it seems like the money has, overall, been minor contributions to politicians who, on the whole, are far from the worst offenders on RKBA issues. I rather doubt that there were many serious pro-RKBA candidates running in Oregon.
But Trump gets a pass, and those politicians don't. I feel like I'm missing something.
Tommygunn
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Understand atleast one thing. Benchmade didn't run for political office. It can't of course, it's a business not a >35 year old native-born American.
President Trump did. And he was up against Hillary Clinton.
We Trumpers took our decision at the voting booth. We knew our guy had "warts." We thought Hillary's warts were gnarlier. Or worse.
There is no perfect candidate, and there never HAS been.
I loved President Ronald Reagan; best president in my lifetime. Was he perfect?
Nope. He was not. Can you say "Iran/Contra?
Oh .... don't forget the 1987 amnesty he signed, either ....
And ..... sigh .... as California governor, he signed that dratted antigun law .... too .....
.But I still think he was a top-notch Prez.
armarsh
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Reading this thread I'm trying to give BM the benefit of the doubt.
But I'm stuck on how BM agreed to do this in the first place. Putting myself in BM's place I don't think I would ever agree to help cut up guns regardless of circumstance. My feeling is that if the people in BM are really that tone deaf on how cutting up guns might be perceived maybe they do deserve all the unwanted attention.
The best analogy I can think of is euthanizing kittens. Do you think there would be any business agree to help out the Animal Control folks in accomplishing this task? Well why not, it's going to happen anyway after all, what is the big deal?
But I'm stuck on how BM agreed to do this in the first place. Putting myself in BM's place I don't think I would ever agree to help cut up guns regardless of circumstance. My feeling is that if the people in BM are really that tone deaf on how cutting up guns might be perceived maybe they do deserve all the unwanted attention.
The best analogy I can think of is euthanizing kittens. Do you think there would be any business agree to help out the Animal Control folks in accomplishing this task? Well why not, it's going to happen anyway after all, what is the big deal?
Their knives are seriously overpriced for what they are. If I ever spend serious money on a pocket knife my $ will go to ProTech of Santa Fe California.
CoalTrain49
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I don't think this thread is about benchmark quality vs value.
Benchmade AND the Oregon City police Chief are both lying about what took place. Taking part in a anti 2nd Amendment political statement with a corrupt liberal police Chief is not "supporting Law Enforcement". It's called "selling you down the river with your own tax dollars".
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Madcap_Magician
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I'm reasonably sure someone probably would be willing to help euthanize kittens for good reasons, just they would have the sense not to live Tweet it.
While I've pointed out several "facts of business life" in this case there are some questions that come to mind I'm sure Benchmade will have to answer about the non OR political contributions. They're not significant, but what was Benchmade getting out of them if not industry considerations? People will want an explanation before Benchmade can put this to bed.
Considering how many gun owners STILL remember the S&W/Clinton fiasco I think it may be too late for that. I read a poll this morning that showed almost 90% of their customer base said they would never do business with Benchmade again. 90%. Talk about getting "WOKE".
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Old Dog
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Oh yeah ... sure lots of gun owners still remember S&W caving to the lawyers and installing "The Lock" on its guns.
Yet, look at how S&W stock is doing these past few years. Hmm.
Consumers have short memories, no matter the product, and new consumers are being born and raised every day.
Yet, look at how S&W stock is doing these past few years. Hmm.
Consumers have short memories, no matter the product, and new consumers are being born and raised every day.
jar
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Never understood the people getting upset over the lock either. It was simply a very reasonable addition that the gun owning community should have supported vocally. It allowed a parent that could not afford a gun safe to lock a gun so that kids in the house could not accidentally shoot something but could be unlocked when supervised. Seems just common sense.
herrwalther
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Our definition of traitor varies wildly. Hoda Muthana is a traitor. Benchmade is not. Do you support Mitsubishi? Abercrombie? Either of those have contributed more money and materials to your enslavement than Benchmade ever has. Get closer to home? Smith and Wesson. Ruger. Springfield. Have all lobbied for gun control bills in recent decades. You may want to start keeping a list in your wallet of companies to boycott. Would be hard to keep up otherwise.
9 pages seems like more than enough. Do what you can live with as far as where you spend your money, either way let's call this one done.
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