BEST way to keep rust away from barrel?

[GAMEOVER44]

I have a 358 Win custom Ruger Scout that id NEVER like to see a spot of rust on. I had a 300 WSM that I traded away for the 358 and upon examination of the 300 WSM with a quarter at one end and a light at the other end of the tunnel, rust was being formed lightly. I do NOT understand how this could of happend as I kept my 300 WSM oiled, WITH a garbage bag over the barrel, stored in a locked case that would suck up the oil because of the foam lining.

Any ideas how that rust formed? I never put a round through the 300 WSM once before I traded it. My father thinks it was there when he gifted me it and was from someone else.

Now im lost and paranoid about rust on my rifle, it has a custom matte black Shilen barrel!


Take a look at this thread http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=770108 the first couple pics youll see in that thread is my new baby if you look behind it youll see what I use for taking care of it. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


PSS- Anyone who took the time to read this and check the thread I posted out and provide input, THANK YOU.

 

[RG7X]

I've had most of my rifles coated with anti-corrosive finishes which have been amazing. If that's not a route you'd like to go, I've heard about these working pretty well (http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/BAG-097). Haven't tried it myself but seems more legit than the garbage bag deal. Hope this helps.

 

[GAMEOVER44]

BTW my dad gave me a slippery white foam like rifle sock. Should I keep my 358 Win stored in it AND then in the case? The case has a rust prohibitor cartridge in it but its the type of hard case with foam lining that could suck up oil. I dont own a safe yet.

 

[GAMEOVER44]

RG7X-
I just saw your post, the barrel is a Shilen Match Grade barrel in Matte black. I dont know if it has any anti corrosive properties. Are you aware of any on this particular barrel?

Here's a pic of the rifle the only thing I use is in an Aerosol can behind this rifle.

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[jmr40]

I kept my 300 WSM oiled, WITH a garbage bag over the barrel, stored in a locked case that would suck up the oil because of the foam lining.

The gun couldn't breathe. Moisture is present in all air. When you locked it inside the plastic bag and gun case there was no air flow. The natural water in the air settled on your gun as temperatures fluctuated.

You bought a working rifle, not a showpiece. Take it out, use it like it was meant to be used. If you do you'll end up with battle scars, rust, dings and dents. And you'll be proud of every one of them because they will be reminders of great times using the gun.

Or you could leave it in the safe, take it out and look at it every now and then and leave it in perfect condition.

 

[RG7X]

Pretty it much it boils down to the basics of what jmr40 covered. Think about the amount of humidity and moisture working itself into that garbage bag. Even if you stick it in case with a sock over it, the oil will be absorbed by the material and the metal will begin to oxidize. I made the same mistake when I moved to FL. I left my weapons with a friend, stored up in boxes and in their respective cheap foam cases. All weapons were coated in rust when I picked them up. After that, I've become very paranoid of rust (since my hands sweat a lot too) so I've been happy with Birdsong's Black-T and Nickel Boron finishes. As I said, if you don't want to go through with that, give it a good cleaning every few months and leave off the trash bags and socks.

 

[Reloadron]

Guns don't like to be cased, most gun cases are for transporting and not storing a gun. Per JMR40 guns like to breathe. Storing a gun in a case (most cases) is a bad idea and storing a gun in any form of plastic bag is a really bad idea. You want air flow around a gun. If protection is a concern then consider a "Gun Sock" which will afford protection against minor dings but allow the gun to breath. You do not want to store a gun in any form of case that allows trapped moisture in there with the gun.

Cabela's Knit Gun Socks

Silicone-treated, polyester/acrylic gun socks give valuable firearms protection against rust, dirt and scratches. The fabric won't hold moisture, making these gun socks ideal for year-round storage. Four different sizes to choose from to accommodate virtually any gun - scoped or unscoped. Extra-wide version stretches for use with large scopes. Drawstring closure. Imported.
Sizes:
Scoped Rifle/Shotgun - 52"
Extra Wide Scoped Rifle/Shotgun - 52"
Handgun - 13.5"
Muzzleloader - 66"

The Cabela's flavor just being an example. Simply wipe the gun down and apply a light coat of good oil for rust and corrosion protection and place it in a protective sock. I just wipe my guns down with Rem-Oil Wipes and place them in my safe but sans a safe a sock works well and allows the gun to breath. Remember most gun cases are designed for transport and not storage.

Ron

 

[natman]

I haven't tried G96, so I can't comment on its rust prevention.

I've had very good luck with Breakfree Collector (not the same as regular Breakfree).

It's specifically designed for gun storage. It forms a thin film and sticks around. After cleaning the barrel, run a dry patch or two through and then a couple of passes with a patch with a few drops of Collector.

Don't store guns in any sort of foam case. The foam acts as a sponge to suck moisture from the air.

 

[ironworkerwill]

Don't store guns in any sort of foam case.

YEAH! In humid locations, especially when bringing a cold gun in a warm house. They can rust overnight.

 

[HankB]

If you store a gun in a bag or case that won't breath, use something specifically designed to prevent rust (like Corrosion-X) AND use some VPI (vapor phase inhibiting) material; both Brownell's and MidwayUSA sell it.

Or you can just do like the military and coat the whole thing in Cosmoline, and enjoy the cleaning process every time you take it out to shoot.

 

[MIL-DOT]

I've been reading great stuff about a product called "WD40 Specialist" that appears to be great at keeping rust at bay ( this is not the regular WD40, which is close to uselss).
There have been tests done on small sheets of steel that have been sprayed with salt water, and this (new?) WD40 product was among the top 2 or 3 contenders, but is considerably cheaper.
Gimme a minute, I'll try and find a link showing the test results.......

Here it is......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4VNF5VRSY4

 

[HOOfan_1]

Sure someone isn't mistaking copper fouling for rust?

 

[cottswald]

If it's been used during inclement weather, make sure its thoroughly dried before storing. Many soft gun cases have plastic sheeting inside. I avoid them. They need to breath. I clean my guns after every outing and use a good CLP or dry lube (Breakfree, Eezox) on the bore and action, and coat the outside with silicone oil. The silicone oil works well on both metal finish and wood stocks. Keep it dry and coated.

 

[judgedelta]

Renaissance Wax... Clean it good, wipe it down and apply several coats. Invisible and petroleum based. Amazon sells it for around $16 for what should be a lifetime supply. As above, don't seal it up in a moist environment.

 

[RainDodger]

For 15 years, my long guns have lived in my safe - not locked in an airtight plastic box and certainly without foam or a plastic bag around them that cannot breathe. No rust.

My pistols, although in soft pistol cases/rugs, are unzipped and open in the safe. No rust.

Listen to the guys above. Get your guns out with air able to circulate around them. Then just find something easy to use to protect the bore. After cleaning, I run an oily patch down the bore and put it in the safe. Before going to the range I pull a bore snake through to clean out the oil. Easy as pie. Or cake. Your choice.

 

[CarJunkieLS1]

All good advice above. Also OP as already mentioned are you sure that you aren't seeing copper fouling? I mean if the rifle was stored inside a bag like you said why would rust be only on the inside of the barrel. IMO if there is rust in the barrel it should be all over the outside of it also.

Tell your dad to try this...take Hoppes #9 or any similair solvent and put 2 wet patches down the bore. Wait 10-15 minutes and put a dry patch down it...if the patch comes out red/brown its probably rust if it comes out with a little blue its copper.

 

[Khromo]

The plastic bag is way wrong. Replace that with a Bore Store sock or one of the similar products. No foam for storage, it's okay for back and forth to the range.

Kroil is great for the rough or porous finishes. Follow it up with Eezox, Brownell's Rust Preventitive, Breakfree Collector (if you are really having a problem.), WD40 Specialist, Sentry Solutions Tuf Glide or Smooth Kote.

Strip the gun, lather it up with Eezox, and let it dry for at least a day. Do that twice. Sleep in peace.

 

[CLP]

RIG rag. I got one after reading RC endorse it numerous times. I like it better than anything else I've used previously. Fully confident in its ability to protect my guns from rust.

 

[Gtscotty]

Every gun I buy gets an eezox treatment, that stuff is awesome!

 

[Inebriated]

I've used Frog Lube for a good while now. No rust issues on guns that I previously had to coat with oil after every hunt or wet range trip, or it'd get some rust.

 

[GAMEOVER44]

Damn guys. Thanks for ALL that information. Youve GREATLY helped.

The 358 I have is being stored in the open on a rifle rack with the ammo locked up. Its in the furnace room in my basement incase one of you want to try and steal it. Ill leave the door open.

LOL

 

[Crowcifier666]

Duracoat.

 

[fotheringill]

"...Moisture is present in all air. When you locked it inside the plastic bag and gun case there was no air flow. The natural water in the air settled on your gun as temperatures fluctuated...."

That is the answer. Also, every time you fire a round there is a tiny bit of moisture in the barrel.

 

[Welding Rod]

I have put guns and dies up for years in one of the wettest parts of country and never had any problems... I just applied Tetra Lube (guns) or Tetra Spray (dies) before storing.

 

[MartinS]

Gameover, indeed. You rifle is doomed. Oxidation, the rot of iron and decay of steel, molecule by molecule and atom by atom it goes on and on, the inexorable slow fire of the end of things. Love them while you can.