hoardingthemanual
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That reply style reminds me of the speech pattern of the wheelchair kid with glasses from Malcom in the middle
Braced Pistol stamp Watch Thread
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Elkins45
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Totally off-topic, but ask a former middle school teacher that show never failed to make me laugh. And it never fails to amaze me that the dad eventually became Walter White on Breaking Bad...
On-topic: I submitted my Form 1 today and will be mailing fingerprints tomorrow.
Got my BCM approval back today. So...submitted 3/3, approved 4/21 and 4/25.
v8stang289
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Submitted 3/25/23, approved today 4/27/23
I did it through silencer shop since they had my e- fingerprints on file.
I did it through silencer shop since they had my e- fingerprints on file.
Sistema1927
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Good news. I submitted 2 through Silencer Shop on 3/29, and they also already had my prints on file for the Suppressor that is still awaiting approval. Did you get an email direct from ATF?
berettaprofessor
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Wowser. Received 1st approval today, 4/28 at 10:22 a.m. and while I was celebrating a second (an AR lower) came through approved at 10:25 a.m. Both submitted late on 4/7 (fingerprint cards sent by Express mail and arrived 4/11) , approved on 4/27, same examiner. So 20 days to approval. Waiting on others still.
To answer an earlier question, they are not in order of submission or numerical sequence.
To answer an earlier question, they are not in order of submission or numerical sequence.
Gordon
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Well now I am confused ! My son says that he would not put a regular stock on or a vertical fore grip because on his amnesty Email approval PDF file letter he got said something about it being ONLY for a braced pistol approval not SBR status ! So yes or no is the approval letter for an SBR , I would like DogtownTom to answer , please. And I guess there will be no forthcoming Stamp emailed because no tax was collected ? here is what I got :
This is to advise you that the status of your eForms submission with the subject Permit/Control number has changed to APPROVED
Permit/Control No: 2..........
Your Reference No:
Submission Date: 03/29/2023
Form ID: ATF Form 1 (5320.1) - Application to Make and Register a Firearm
Please logon to the eForms site for more details.
If you have any questions about your eForms submission, please contact:
for Imports questions, call (304) 616-4550
for NFA questions, call (304) 616-4500
for AFMER questions, call (304) 616-4590
for Firearms Licensing questions, call 1-866-662-2750
Thank you for using eForms.
This is to advise you that the status of your eForms submission with the subject Permit/Control number has changed to APPROVED
Permit/Control No: 2..........
Your Reference No:
Submission Date: 03/29/2023
Form ID: ATF Form 1 (5320.1) - Application to Make and Register a Firearm
Please logon to the eForms site for more details.
If you have any questions about your eForms submission, please contact:
for Imports questions, call (304) 616-4550
for NFA questions, call (304) 616-4500
for AFMER questions, call (304) 616-4590
for Firearms Licensing questions, call 1-866-662-2750
Thank you for using eForms.
He's probably confused to the fact that are two different websites for submitting the Form 1...one for braced pistols "pursuant to ATF Final Rule 2021R-08F" and one for standard SBR's. The ATF stated that braced pistols are SBR's, so there's not two different classifications of approvals. No where on my approval letters does it mention "braced pistol".
v8stang289
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Yes, I got an eforms notification email from the ATF.
Gordon
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Nowhere does it say SBR either! And yes if you look at the approval letter I got it mentioned under the Braced form #5320.1
berettaprofessor
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Oh, but it does! Box 4b "Type of Firearm to be made" I entered "Short Barreled Rifle" and that is the form that was approved.
Soonerpesek
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Gordon
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actually they are all pistols if sold built or "firearms" if just the receiver and not yet constructed . The " brace" was previously an allowed accessory and politically reinterpreted as a shoulder stock by the DOJ .
What matters to me is do I have constructive approval of creating an SBR as the former legal definition ? Period . Or is it a permission to construct and possess a braced pistol which does not achieve the new rules for such ?
Sistema1927
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To the ATF, it is either a pistol or an SBR. It is a pistol if if meets their nebulous criteria. It is an SBR if it doesn't.
They are allowing you to register what you thought was a pistol, but they have determined to be an SBR during this "amnesty" period. Once you have your approval you are free to do anything to it that you would to any other SBR.
I have a carbine buffer tube and stock in my pile of parts for one of mine when my approval comes, and have ordered the same for the other. (And, before anyone screams "constructive possession!", I have a number of AR rifles on which these components could be installed.)
My guess is that with the overwhelming amount of applications coming in...even if your prints made it there in 4 days, by the time they sit in the mailroom, get sorted and routed to the correct section, then get to the specific examiner and they get around to matching them to a specific application...it's going to be past 10 days. I'd wager that if they get there a couple of days past the "10 day" deadline you'll be OK.
berettaprofessor
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Well, 2 more approved today and one disapproved....22 days to approval. Same examiner on all of them. The "disapproved" one was my error. Make a note: my Spike's lower; had an area engraved "SCR" deeply, just like the "Spikes' logo and "Multi" beneath it. Beside the SCR, after a little space, was stamped (lighter letters) the serial "66XXXX" On the eform I just wrote "66XXXX" as the serial but the picture of markings I sent had the "SCR" visible, so the examiner wanted the paperwork to read "SCR66XXXX". Hope that helps someone else.
Happily, the disapproved one was the one I debated submitting at all; but I figured if I submitted one, I might as well submit others so this is essentially a backup to another AR lower that did get approved, albeit it has a 223 pistol upper currently. If it never gets sbr'ed, I'll just use it with the longer barreled uppers and not worry about it.
Happily, the disapproved one was the one I debated submitting at all; but I figured if I submitted one, I might as well submit others so this is essentially a backup to another AR lower that did get approved, albeit it has a 223 pistol upper currently. If it never gets sbr'ed, I'll just use it with the longer barreled uppers and not worry about it.
dogtown tom
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That letter is the eForm 1 .pdf that your son submitted under the forbearance for registering his pistol w/arm brace as an SBR.
All "pistol with an arm brace" was determined to be a SBR on 1/31/23.
Now that he has a registered SBR, he is free to remove the arm brace and attach any shoulder stock he want, change the barrel length, caliber, overall length. He can even add a 16" bbl and configure it as a Title I rifle.
None if the above requires notifying ATF.
NFA firearms are: Machine Guns, Silencers, Any Other Weapons, Destructive Devices, Short Barreled Rifles and Short Barreled Shotguns........thats it.
There is no stamp affixed because your son didn't pay for one. He just received his eForm as "approved" per the Rule
Gordon
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sevt_chevelle
Member
Couple of questions.
Just watched a video by silencershop about doing the form 1.
1. What are the engravings i need photos of? I take that as the factory serial number, correct?
2. Has you fill out caliber and barrel length.
Are you now stuck with that caliber and barrel length?
I currentlt have a 556 with a 10.5 barrel, say a year from now I wanna change it to 300 blk and 12.5 barrel, can I do that?
Thanks
Just watched a video by silencershop about doing the form 1.
1. What are the engravings i need photos of? I take that as the factory serial number, correct?
2. Has you fill out caliber and barrel length.
Are you now stuck with that caliber and barrel length?
I currentlt have a 556 with a 10.5 barrel, say a year from now I wanna change it to 300 blk and 12.5 barrel, can I do that?
Thanks
dogtown tom
Member
Having photos of the manufacturers markings prevents someone from misidentifying the actual model.
No.
After receiving your approved Form 1, you can change the caliber, configuration as often as you wish. No notification required. ATF asks that you notify them of any permanant changes but its not required.
Sure can.
Sistema1927
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Dogtown covered it quite well. I have 2 eform 1's awaiting approval. Both identical lowers. One will wear a 300 BO upper exclusively, but the other will alternate between 5.56 and 9mm (using a mag well insert). I had to pick one for the form, and used 5.56 since it will accommodate that upper without the insert.
hoardingthemanual
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Approved today. Submitted 3/16 and approved 5/3. It took 32 business days, 48 days including weekends.
Did you do the regular Eform 1 or the one with the free tax stamp? I did the regular Eform 1 on 2/12 and it's still processing.
