Bruen decision may mark an end to CA ammunition restriction

For those of you not in California, SB-918, the NY clone anti-CCW bill failed in the Assembly by one vote. The bill's author will bring it back in the January sessions where it will easily pass. We need a Judge in NY to issue a PI or TRO against their law to stand any chance of it not being signed into law here in January. The fight against the enemies of freedom continues...

And yes, even if you live in America, you should be very vested and very concerned about these infringements on New Yorkers and Californians. Unchecked, this Cancer will spread to your state. We're all in this together.
 
Update to Rhode v Bonta (CA ammunition ban) from post #17 -
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...fornia-ammo-restriction.907903/#post-12387513

Attorney update and discussion of the Rhode v Bonta California ammunition ban case -
https://rumble.com/v1t2awn-supreme-...californias-ammo-ban-laws-rhode-v.-bonta.html
  • CA filed supplemental brief arguing the case does not implicate the 2A and 9th Circuit should remand the case back to district judge Benitez for reconsideration in light of Supreme Court Bruen ruling
  • Plaintiffs argued since the Supreme Court removed the two-step approach, 9th Circuit should rule reconsidering Bruen ruling only using "text and history"
  • CA already admitted requiring background check for ammunition purchase was first of it's kind for the state and nation
  • Interestingly, judge Benitez scheduled a status conference docket for 12/12/22 but the three judge panel of 9th Circut has not remanded the case back down to judge Benitez (The fact that judge Benitez scheduled a conference may indicate the 9th Circuit will be remanding the case down as 9th Circuit has already remanded all the other 2A cases down post Bruen ruling)
  • Once the case is remanded down for reconsideration but judge Benitez already ruled CA's ammunition ban (Requirement for background check and having to go through FFL) unconstitutional as certain citizens would be blocked from purchasing ammunition
  • Interesting thing is CA already admitted being able to acquire and keep ammunition is protected by the 2A [What? :eek:] but AG Bonta argues that background check and using FFLs is lawful regulation and do not violate the 2A because it is not a total ban
  • Judge Benitez already used "Text informed by history" and simple "Heller test" to rule the ammunition ban unconstitutional as background check for ammunition purchase has no historical pedigree and in fact, has never been implemented before by any other state. It is unlikely judge Benitez will change his original ruling.
  • So judge Benitez will now have total control over Rhode v Bonta (CA ammunition ban), Duncan v Bonta (CA magazine ban case) and Miller v Bonta (CA assault weapon ban)
 
Repost from 2/10/23 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-12#post-12668661

Update to post #271 Miller v Bonta (CA AW ban), Duncan v Bonta (CA magazine ban) and Rhode v Becerra/Bonta (CA ammunition ban) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-11#post-12528071

FPC attorney discuss Miller/Duncan/Rhode cases:
  • All three cases have already been ruled unconstitutional by judge Benitez and sent up to the Supreme Court and remanded back down after Bruen ruling for reconsideration using "text and history" approach only
  • For Miller and Duncan cases, CA tried to delay the cases out to middle of 2023 but judge Benitez rejected those attempts
  • On 12/12/22, judge Benitez held a "status conference" where Miller/Duncan/Rhode cases along with Fouts v Bonta (CA baton ban) case were heard
  • After the status conference, judge Benitez gave CA 30 days to put together a spreadsheet of enacted laws and regulations as historical evidence related to the cases and plaintiffs had 30 days to respond with 10 additional days for both parties to respond as needed (So delay CA wanted was limited to 70 days)
  • Today was the end of 30 day response deadline for the plaintiffs and February 20th is the end of the 70 days then judge Benitez will rule on the cases
  • Judge Benitez likely allowed the spreadsheet of historical evidence with extra time to be presented to mitigate the CA appeal to the 9th Circuit where argument could be made there was procedural error/insufficient time to present historical evidence
  • Interesting development is judge Benitez ordered CA to file additional five page brief to be filed by Friday where CA must provide that "identifies the best historical regulation that is a proper analogue and relevantly similar to a statewide prohibition on possession of a firearm with listed features." (For Miller case).
  • CA must also identify the best historical analogue for "statewide background check for buying ammunition (For Rhode case) and "statewide prohibition on possession of an ammunition device or a limit on an amount of ammunition. (For Duncan case)
  • In doing so, judge Benitez is requiring CA to present their best argument for historical evidence
  • It will be interesting to see what CA presents to support in terms of historical evidence of so called "Assault Weapon" ban, magazine ban and ammunition ban as spreadsheet outlined in post #271 did not provide historical tradition of AW/magazine/ammunition ban - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-11#post-12528071
  • If judge Benitez rules Miller/Duncan/Rhode cases unconstitutional again after the 70 days/February 20th, there may be a small window for another "Freedom Week" to purchase/install currently banned items before CA requests stay with the 9th Circuit
 
Repost from 7/10/23 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-12#post-12668661

Update to Rhode v Becerra/Bonta (CA ammunition ban) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-12#post-12546529

Case was already ruled unconstitutional by judge Benitez and remanded back down after Bruen ruling for reconsideration using "text and history" approach only. On 12/12/22, judge Benitez held a "status conference" where Miller/Duncan/Rhode cases along with Fouts v Bonta (CA baton ban) case were heard.
  • A hearing on Plaintiffs’ Motion for Preliminary Injunction will take place on Monday, July 17, 2023 at 2:00 p.m. in Courtroom 5A
  • Interesting thing is the Court intends to consolidate the hearing on the motion for preliminary injunction with a trial on the merits
  • At or prior to the hearing, the parties should be prepared to address, among other things:
    • a. The Plaintiffs’ continuing Article III standing;
    • b. Whether Plaintiffs’ conduct is covered by the text of the Second Amendment
    • c. Relevant historical analogues;
    • d. Applicability of footnote 9 in New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen, 142 S. Ct. 2111 (2022);
    • e. The Dormant Commerce Clause (First Claim for Relief);
    • f. Preemption by 18 U.S.C. § 926A (Ninth Claim for Relief);
    • g. Whether judicial deference is owed to laws produced by ballot measure Proposition 63
  • So instead of granting a preliminary injunction, judge Benitez could instead make a final ruling on the case
 
Repost from 7/20/23 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-13#post-12675283

Update to Rhode v Becerra/Bonta (CA ammunition ban) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-12#post-12668661
  • A hearing on Plaintiffs’ Motion for Preliminary Injunction will take place on Monday, July 17, 2023 at 2:00 p.m. in Courtroom 5A
  • Interesting thing is the Court intends to consolidate the hearing on the motion for preliminary injunction with a trial on the merits
  • At or prior to the hearing, the parties should be prepared to address, among other things:
    • a. The Plaintiffs’ continuing Article III standing;
    • b. Whether Plaintiffs’ conduct is covered by the text of the Second Amendment
    • c. Relevant historical analogues;
    • d. Applicability of footnote 9 in New York State Rifle and Pistol Association v. Bruen, 142 S. Ct. 2111 (2022);
    • e. The Dormant Commerce Clause (First Claim for Relief);
    • f. Preemption by 18 U.S.C. § 926A (Ninth Claim for Relief);
    • g. Whether judicial deference is owed to laws produced by ballot measure Proposition 63
  • So instead of granting a preliminary injunction, judge Benitez could instead make a final ruling on the case
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Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Roger T. Benitez: Preliminary Injunction Hearing held on 7/17/2023 - https://michellawyers.com/rhode-v-becerra/
  • No objections were heard as to combining the preliminary injunction hearing with a trial on the merits.
  • Within 30 days of today, Plaintiffs shall file a declaration(s) regarding their Article III standing.
  • Within 30 days of today, Defendant shall name and file an expert report(s) or declaration(s) regarding the American history and tradition of background checks.
  • Within 15 days thereafter, Plaintiffs shall decide whether to depose said expert(s), and within 30 days after deciding, Plaintiffs shall file a brief or expert declaration(s) in response.
  • Additionally, within 30 days of today, Defendant shall file an updated declaration regarding ammunition purchaser background check acceptance/rejection rates and processing times, as performed previously.
  • Additionally, within 30 days of today, Defendant shall report to the extent ascertainable, on persons described in previous declarations as persons who underwent background checks and were identified as prohibited persons and indicate whether such persons were prosecuted and whether firearms were located and seized from such persons.
So looks like judge Benitez is putting the burden of evidence on CA to come up with "American" history and tradition of background checks and acceptance/rejection rates along with processing times for buying ammunition.
 
Repost from 7/22/23 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-13#post-12676986

Update to Rhode v Becerra/Bonta (CA ammunition ban) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...-aw-magazine-ban.905531/page-13#post-12675283

Ex FPC attorney discuss Preliminary Injunction hearing held with judge Benitez on 7/17/2023
  • On 12/12/22, judge Benitez held a "status conference" where Miller/Duncan/Rhode cases along with Fouts v Bonta (CA baton ban) case were heard
  • After the status conference, judge Benitez gave CA 30 days to put together a spreadsheet of enacted laws and regulations as historical evidence related to the cases
  • Judge ordered CA to identify the best historical analogue for "statewide background check for buying ammunition"

  • At the Preliminary Injunction hearing, judge questioned why CA was trying to use racist laws of past (Which later were deemed unconstitutional) to push relevancy with ammunition ban
  • Judge was critical of why CA's historians can better explain historical law with a clear meaning, like racist laws
  • Judge gave CA 30 days to submit expert declarations perhaps to avoid 9th Circuit kicking the case back to him due to procedural issues
  • Judge hinted he would be OK with an issuance of "permit card" that would allow purchase of ammunition renewable every 5 years as being allowable under Bruen ruling as state regulation but not having background check for every ammunition purchase which is overly burdensome
 
Quoting Livelife: "Actually, 2A does protect ammunition."

As far as guaranteed ammunition? We have all seen how easy it is to tip that apple cart over and you don'r even need a bad law to do it.
Seems many forget we just went through an easy way to make ammo scarce or even non existent. Is the next plandemic right around the corner? We all know the Antis never sleep...
 
Seems many forget we just went through an easy way to make ammo scarce or even non existent. Is the next plandemic right around the corner? We all know the Antis never sleep...
You are correct that antis never sleep.

But during the pandemic, online ammunition sales continued the flow of ammunition to gun owners. ;)

Even for CA with ammunition "restriction" that required online ammunition orders to be delivered to FFL. (But this is being challenged in court as the focus of this thread)
 
The title of this thread and the associated video is misleading. A favorable RULING might mark the end of the ammo background check regime. But not this minor procedural action.
Armed Scholar's videos are always sort of like that. The reality is that courts move slowly. While I think we're moving in the right direction on a lot of cases, most of this stuff isn't happening at a rapid enough pace to maintain content for a Youtube/Rumble channel, so I've noticed he often hypes up rather trivial movement in cases into a whole video.
 
The title of this thread and the associated video is misleading.
Armed Scholar's videos are always sort of like that.
I agree. Thread title should have put more emphasis on Supreme Court "Bruen" ruling as current thread title insinuates Supreme Court actually ruled on CA ammunition ban. (I could PM a moderator to see if I could have the thread title modified)

In the OP, this was made clear though - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...fornia-ammo-restriction.907903/#post-12348793

"The Supreme Court's ruling in NYSRPA v Bruen resulted in a new challenge to the California ammunition sales/transfer restriction case Rhode v Bonta ..."
 
But during the pandemic, online ammunition sales continued the flow of ammunition to gun owners. ;)
I did not need to buy any but I guess you had no issues buying ammo during the plandemic like many others did? The topic of the discussion leads to eliminating the ability to obtain ammo anyway you slice it. Which leads to not being able to use your weapon. Hope it all works out for you...
 
Clarification to post #32 for Rhode v Becerra/Bonta (CA ammunition ban) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ition-restriction.907903/page-2#post-12679351

I am going over the minute entry and noticed PI hearing was held on 7/17 and 75 days could pass before Judge Benitez can make a ruling on the case (30 + 15 + 30) which will put us sometime in October 2023. (I guess we will sit down and wait some more ...)

Minute Entry for proceedings held before Judge Roger T. Benitez: Preliminary Injunction Hearing held on 7/17/2023 - https://michellawyers.com/rhode-v-becerra/
  • No objections were heard as to combining the preliminary injunction hearing with a trial on the merits.
  • Within 30 days of today, Plaintiffs shall file a declaration(s) regarding their Article III standing. Within 30 days of today, Defendant shall name and file an expert report(s) or declaration(s) regarding the American history and tradition of background checks.
  • Within 15 days thereafter, Plaintiffs shall decide whether to depose said expert(s)
  • ... and within 30 days after deciding, Plaintiffs shall file a brief or expert declaration(s) in response.
  • Additionally, within 30 days of today, Defendant shall file an updated declaration regarding ammunition purchaser background check acceptance/rejection rates and processing times, as performed previously.
  • Additionally, within 30 days of today, Defendant shall report to the extent ascertainable, on persons described in previous declarations as persons who underwent background checks and were identified as prohibited persons and indicate whether such persons were prosecuted and whether firearms were located and seized from such persons.
 
PI hearing was held on 7/17 and 75 days could pass before Judge Benitez can make a ruling on the case (30 + 15 + 30) which will put us sometime in October 2023. (I guess we will sit down and wait some more ...)
Wheels of justice turn slowly, but they surely turn.

Update to Rhode v Bonta (CA ammunition ban) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ition-restriction.907903/page-2#post-12688362


Judge Benitez struck down CA ammunition ban - https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-31-Decision.pdf

INTRODUCTION​
In 2016, California voters approved a statewide ballot measure known as Proposition 63 ... created a background check system for the purchasing of ammunition ... gun owners would apply for an ammunition purchase permit ... cost $50 and it would be good for four years.​
However ... state legislature enacted Senate Bill 1235 ... “prospectively amended” aspects of Proposition 63 ... Instead of creating a system using an ammunition purchase permit that was valid for four years, Senate Bill 1235 requires residents to submit to an automated background check every time they need to buy ammunition ... It is Senate Bill 1235’s requirement of a background check for every purchase that is challenged here ... Why the legislature eliminated the voter-approved 4-year permit system in favor of an every purchase background check scheme is not apparent.​
... In earlier proceedings, this Court found the background check and anti-importation provisions likely violate both the Second Amendment and the dormant Commerce Clause and entered a preliminary injunction. (Page 4)​
Plaintiffs claim the ammunition background check laws are invalid for three main reasons. First, the ammunition background check scheme violates the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Second, the anti-importation aspect of the ammunition laws violates the Article 1, §8, clause 3 of the Constitution, known as the dormant Commerce Clause. Third, the anti-importation provision for individuals is preempted by 18 U.S.C. § 926A. This Court agrees. (Page 7)​
In Bruen, the Supreme Court rejected the old approach of using different levels of scrutiny ... Applying Bruen’s new lesson, this Court’s conclusion remains the same: the California ammunition background check laws violate a citizen’s right to bear arms (Pages 7-8)​
Whatever firearm regulations may be thought of as presumptively lawful under Heller, ammunition regulations are not among them. This is not a question of first impression. It was already decided in Jackson. Jackson said unambiguously that, “Heller does not include ammunition regulations in the list of ‘presumptively lawful’regulations.” ... Because ammunition sale prohibitions and regulations are covered by the Second Amendment, the presumption is that such restrictions are infringements. The State may overcome the presumption, but it needs to do so as Bruen teaches. In other words, “the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.” (“Accordingly, when the Second Amendment’s ‘plain text’ covers the regulated conduct, the government has only one way to defend the regulation—by proving that it is ‘consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.’”) (Page 11)​
Guns made without serial numbers, or “ghost guns” as the government refers tothem, have been in existence throughout the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. (“A firearm without a serial number in 1791 was certainly not considered dangerous or unusual compared to other firearms because serial numbers were not required or even commonly used at that time.”). Until the mid-twentieth century, the requirement of a serial number on a firearm was unknown. “Serial numbers were not broadly required for all firearms manufactured and imported in the United States until the passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.” (Page 21)​
Today, it makes little sense to argue that disarmament laws targeting non-citizens who were not entitled to constitutional protections now justify placing similar modern restrictions on citizens who do enjoy constitutional rights. (Page 25)​
In the end, the State has failed to carry its burden to demonstrate that the ammunition background check laws “are consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation,” as required by Bruen ... Therefore, California’s ammunition background check system laws are unconstitutional and shall not be enforced. (Page 26)​
CONCLUSION​
The ammunition background checks laws have no historical pedigree and operate in such a way that they violate the Second Amendment right of citizens to keep and bear arms. The anti-importation components violate the dormant Commerce Clause and to the extent applicable to individuals travelling into California are preempted by 18 U.S.C. §926A. Perhaps the simpler, 4-year and $50 ammunition purchase permit approved by the voters in Proposition 63, would have fared better.​
Accordingly, the Court permanently enjoins the State of California from enforcing the ammunition sales background check provisions found in California Penal Code §§30352 and 30370(a) through (e), and the ammunition anti-importation provisions found in §§30312(a) and (b) and 30314(a). Criminal enforcement of California Penal Code §§30312(d), 30314(c), and 30365(a) by the Attorney General and all other law enforcement defendants is permanently enjoined.​

Judgement - https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-31-Judgment.pdf

Decision by Court.​
This action came to trial or hearing before the Court. The issues have been tried or heard and a decision has been rendered.​
IT IS HEREBY ORDERED AND ADJUDGED:​
Defendant Attorney General Rob Bonta, and his officers, agents, servants,employees, and attorneys,and those persons in active concert or participation with him, and those duly sworn state peace officers and federal law enforcement officers who gain knowledge of this injunction order or know of the existence of this injunction order, are enjoined from implementing or enforcing the ammunition sales background check provisions found in California Penal Code§§ 30352 and 30370(a) through (e), and the ammunition anti-importation provisions found in §§ 30312(a) and (b) and 30314(a), as well as the criminal enforcement of California Penal Code §§ 30312(d), 30314(c), and 30365(a). Defendant Attorney General Rob Bonta shall provide forthwith, by personal service or otherwise, actual notice of this order to all law enforcement personnel who are responsible for implementing or enforcing the enjoined statutes. Case is closed.​

Order denying request for stay - https://michellawyers.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/2024-01-31-Order-Denying-Request-to-Stay.pdf

Defendant requests a stay of this Court’s Decision and permanent injunction pending appeal, or in the alternative, a 10-day administrative stay. The Defendant says that, “if the Decision is allowed to stay in effect, it would irrevocably alter the status quo by enjoining enforcement of laws that have been in effect for over four years; allowing prohibited California residents to acquire ammunition during the appeal; and jeopardizing public safety.”​
... While there is the possibility that prohibited California residents will be able to acquire ammunition without a stay, there continues to exist criminal laws against the possession of ammunition by prohibited persons under both state and federal law. This Court’s decision in no way affects those laws and the Defendant is free to continue to enforce the same. ;) 👍
... This Court has given the State plenty of opportunity and time to provide analogues or other evidence to demonstrate the validity of its ammunition background check laws. The Decision simply requires a return to the status quo ante litem as it existed prior to the effective dates of SB1235 and Proposition 63. Having considered the relevant factors, and for many of the same reasons articulated in this Court’s Order denying a stay of the preliminary injunction order (filed Apr. 24, 2020, Dkt. 62), the request for a stay pending appeal and an administrative stay is denied.​

Ex FPC attorney discuss today's ruling
 
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Great news, thank you @LiveLife
Alert credit goes to @Dudedog - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...mo-background-check-struck-down-again.927364/

A few vendors are already taking orders.
Now, I need to add some more 22LR ammunition to my ongoing 47 brands/weights/lots accuracy comparison (Troubleshooted group size issue to loose thread protector from barrel cleaning solvent so testing resumes) :) - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...nition-comparison.908102/page-2#post-12812234
 
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Continued from post #41 - https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...ition-restriction.907903/page-2#post-12821967

Press release from California Rifle & Pistol Association (CA arm of NRA) - https://crpa.org/news/blogs/breaking-huge-win-in-rhode-v-bonta/

California gun owners got great news today when Judge Roger Benitez announced he is upholding CRPA’s challenges in Rhode v. Bonta. This case seeks to overturn the state’s restrictions on ammunition purchases.​
Rhode v. Bonta (challenging ammunition restrictions) has worked its way up and down the court system for eight years. Along with Duncan v. Bonta, these cases were both at the Ninth Circuit level last year, awaiting the much anticipated Bruen decision by the Supreme Court. Once that decision came down, Rhode and Duncan were both remanded back to the lower courts for supplemental briefing. Our friends at Ammunition Depot joined with CRPA and other individual and company plaintiffs to support this case through all of the legal twists and turns.​
Named plaintiff and Olympic champion Kim Rhode celebrated the announcement: “Like I initially stated to Gavin Newsom, “always happy to teach you about the guns and ammo you don’t trust me to own.” I’m happy that the courts agreed with me. Many generations of hunters, outdoorsmen and Olympians will be able to train and pass on the shooting heritage for many generations. I will never stop fighting for the 2nd Amendment and what I believe to be right and the court’s ruling supports that.​
Both cases were intensely watched by Second Amendment advocates buoyed by the announcement of the Bruen decision last summer. Today’s ruling, while the state will most certainly appeal them, represent continued progress in rolling back decades of attacks on the rights of lawful gun owners.​
Today’s ruling represents continued affirmation that the Bruen decision, and Heller before that, represent a sea change in the way courts must look at these absurdly restrictive laws,” stated CRPA President & General Counsel Chuck Michel. “Sure, the state will appeal, but the clock is ticking on laws that violate the Constitution.”​
Lead attorney for the Rhode case, Sean Brady of Michel & Associates, noted, “this particular background check system, instituted by California law, was so egregious and over the top that Judge Benitez never faltered in his determinations from his earlier rulings which gave gun owners a win. Today’s ruling reiterates that California’s restrictions on ammunition purchasing are unconstitutional under yet another ruling in our favor and one that is in line with the Supreme Court opinion in Bruen.”​
 
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Many companies are taking orders including Palmetto State Armory - I will not order a single round this week to do my tiny little part to open the floodgates to CA during this Freedom Week/Day/Hour/whatever we can get.
 
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