Coyote3855
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Sweet.
Cane was no good there!
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7X57chilmau
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I love fairey tales.... 
Gunfighter- I hear ya. I'm no Rambo, and I'm not going to go punching out every punk who doesn't get up to give a pregnant woman his seat on a bus.
BUT, I'm not going to stand around and let a guy like the roid-freak in this story threaten to mortally wound an elderly disabled man. As I said, I think it's disgraceful that nobody took a stand.
And as for the unrelated fairy-tale, it sounds like these two deserved each other.
BUT, I'm not going to stand around and let a guy like the roid-freak in this story threaten to mortally wound an elderly disabled man. As I said, I think it's disgraceful that nobody took a stand.
And as for the unrelated fairy-tale, it sounds like these two deserved each other.
Well now your getting into an interesting area of social psychology. Just thought this may make for good reading:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-bystander-effect.htm
bikerdoc
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Carl, you live such a more charmed and interesting life than I do. Good outcome all around.
But, and there always is a but, I think I will pass If you invite me out for Bagel and Joe.
For all you guys that said you would help us old men in such a situation, thanks and god bless you.
But, and there always is a but, I think I will pass If you invite me out for Bagel and Joe.
For all you guys that said you would help us old men in such a situation, thanks and god bless you.
AStone
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I'd like to interject a slight tangent here, that's relevant me thinks.
I encourage us all to avoid using the term "old" when referring to people, including ourselves, and use "older" or "elder" instead.
The word "old" in this culture is too often applied to things that not honored. "Old" is often translated as "used up; no longer of value". "This old thing?" People of age are not honored, but discarded, even pushed around like those people attempted (unsuccessfully) to do to Carl.
Like the words used in sexism ("girl", "bitch", "whore" applied to a woman with the intention to belittle) or racism (the N word, "spic", etc), calling someone "old" is an act of agism.
I'm pushing 60 this year (going on 40), but refuse to call myself or be called "old". I firmly challenge people when they refer to me as "old"; at times in the past, I've become angry about it. I call it the "O word". Never ever call me old in condescension. I'll get up in your face so fast it'll make your freaking head spin. You might get away calling me ugly, or even stupid. But never old.
I'm not old. I'm older. I'll never be old, and even if I am, I'll never let others call me that.
It's a point of principle.
With his actions, Carl demonstrated that older people - elders - are not to be discarded, discounted, or taken as an easy mark.
Carl, you are an gray panther. You are a role model for those of us who are getting older.
Rock on, bro.
Nem
PS added by edit, among other changes: I've recently taken up sticks. (See sig line.) I'm beginning to study FMA. Stick, cane, staff ... all can help one walk and I'd way far rather fight with a stick than a knife. I've walked (in "the woods") with a walking stick all my life, occasionally practicing with it as a weapon on dead trees. As I get older and need a cane - and I will - I'm going to make sure I can kick butt with it if I must. Hope I never have to, but want to be able to if necessary.
I encourage us all to avoid using the term "old" when referring to people, including ourselves, and use "older" or "elder" instead.
The word "old" in this culture is too often applied to things that not honored. "Old" is often translated as "used up; no longer of value". "This old thing?" People of age are not honored, but discarded, even pushed around like those people attempted (unsuccessfully) to do to Carl.
Like the words used in sexism ("girl", "bitch", "whore" applied to a woman with the intention to belittle) or racism (the N word, "spic", etc), calling someone "old" is an act of agism.
I'm pushing 60 this year (going on 40), but refuse to call myself or be called "old". I firmly challenge people when they refer to me as "old"; at times in the past, I've become angry about it. I call it the "O word". Never ever call me old in condescension. I'll get up in your face so fast it'll make your freaking head spin. You might get away calling me ugly, or even stupid. But never old.
I'm not old. I'm older. I'll never be old, and even if I am, I'll never let others call me that.
It's a point of principle.
With his actions, Carl demonstrated that older people - elders - are not to be discarded, discounted, or taken as an easy mark.
Carl, you are an gray panther. You are a role model for those of us who are getting older.
Rock on, bro.
Nem
PS added by edit, among other changes: I've recently taken up sticks. (See sig line.) I'm beginning to study FMA. Stick, cane, staff ... all can help one walk and I'd way far rather fight with a stick than a knife. I've walked (in "the woods") with a walking stick all my life, occasionally practicing with it as a weapon on dead trees. As I get older and need a cane - and I will - I'm going to make sure I can kick butt with it if I must. Hope I never have to, but want to be able to if necessary.
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Deltaboy1984
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Thanks Carl. Let us know when this is all over.
Thanks for that lovely fairy tail where the Good Guys win Big!
Thanks for that lovely fairy tail where the Good Guys win Big!
jahwarrior
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Balog
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Excellent tale, with a very happy ending.
Knives are the most deterring of all weapons, I think. I'm glad you did not need to use it. I wish I was able to carry a cane and not be looked at askance, they are excellent yet innocent looking weapons.
I find your "no one needs to carry a gun unless they're idiots, and besides you'd probably just kill someone innocent" attitude a bit disturbing, but I suppose you live in the right state then.
Knives are the most deterring of all weapons, I think. I'm glad you did not need to use it. I wish I was able to carry a cane and not be looked at askance, they are excellent yet innocent looking weapons.
I find your "no one needs to carry a gun unless they're idiots, and besides you'd probably just kill someone innocent" attitude a bit disturbing, but I suppose you live in the right state then.
Glistam-
I was a psychology major in college and actually was a researcher in the social Psychology lab.
I have known about bystander effect for years. It still just baffles me that it actually happens. I could spend a lifetime learning about bystander effect and never truly understand what the heck is wrong with people who actually do nothing.
I was a psychology major in college and actually was a researcher in the social Psychology lab.
I have known about bystander effect for years. It still just baffles me that it actually happens. I could spend a lifetime learning about bystander effect and never truly understand what the heck is wrong with people who actually do nothing.
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