CMP 1911 price announcement

[silicosys4]

Lots of speculation about the pricing about the CMP 1911's being released soon.


"The pricing is expected to start at about $1,000 per pistol with the better grades “priced accordingly.”

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Just what I was afraid of. No shooter grade deals. Outrageous collectors pricing on even their most beat up, parts bin guns in need of repair.

 

[243winxb]

$1000, no thanks. I paid $45 for my first one.

 

[tlatoani]

Bummer.

 

[dogmush]

We've had this conversation before all over the web.

I know that there are lots of folks that don't personally think they are worth this, but any 1911 at all with a "U.S. Property" roll mark starts in the low thousands. That's what the market bears on a genuine, mix master 1911.

So CMP is likely right on track, and depending on what they actually get, maybe a tic low. It's not like they are making more of these. I'll look at the grades, and the final prices, but I'm likely still in for a service grade-ish one to go with my Garand. Historic and shootable.

 

[longknife12]

Guess I'll stay with the ones I have!
Dan

 

[giggitygiggity]

Yeah no thanks. If one was $500, I might consider it, but when I can get a higher end brand new 1911 with all kinds of bells and whistles for $1000, I'll pass on beat up government 1911s. Half of the appeal of surplus firearms is pricing and the other half is historical value. At a $1000 price point, the CMP 1911s might have some historical value, but they are not financially appealing.

 

[rondog]

The deep pocketed regulars on the CMP forum are all already lined up for 'em, price is no object. They're gonna snap 'em up like hotcakes, just like everything else special the CMP gets - like carbines, 03's/03-A3's, crates of ammo, armor piercing ammo, high-grade Garands, etc. Gotta get up real early and have big piles o' cash to compete with those boys.

 

[Old Fuff]

Before getting so critical consider what the money they get goes to support. During the "good ol' days" the DCM was supported with government funds. Lyndon Johnson put a stop to that and tried to kill the whole program. Today we are lucky to still have the CMP.

$1000 is indeed steep, but not out of line with going prices, and the CMP has to get funds from somewhere to keep going.

If you find the price to be too steep go look at the excellent selection offered by RIA among others.

 

[browningguy]

I'm fine with that price, it's my tax dollars so I think we should get what the market will pay. I've no interest in CMP selling them cheap so people that get lucky can flip them for a quick profit.

For people that want to buy a new 1911 for less than a government marked piece just go do it, no need to complain about it. I could buy a pistol cheaper than my Sig X6, but it wouldn't be the same. I could buy a car cheaper than my current ride, but it wouldn't be the same.

We could go on and on, but a new $400 1911 just isn't the same as a US Government marked 1911, different markets.

 

[Candyman87]

Love my RIA M1911A1 but frankly there's nothing I'd love to have than the real deal. I might pull the trigger at $1000. Depends what they end up looking like for that price.

The RIA would still be my everyday .45 but the CMP model would be nice for the collection.

 

[Hardtarget]

I'd go for that...but the war room wouldn't....

Maybe I'll win a small lottery...

I'd better just plan on keeping the .45s I have...

Mark

 

[mgmorden]

Honestly they have to price them for what the market will accept if they don't want there to be a rush and all of them be gone instantly.

$1000 is a bargain compared to what people have been paying for actual US Government issued 1911's. I'd probably get one for that price.

 

[BLB68]

If I could afford it, I'd grab one at that price for the nostalgia and not feel like it was going to seriously depreciate in value as a collectible.

However, having handled and serviced hundreds of these guns, not my first choice for a shooter, and not worth that much as pieces of hardware if they weren't also pieces of history.

 

[JohnBT]

I'll just wait until they turn up at the gun show for $2000. :banghead:

 

[bainter1212]

The deep pocketed regulars on the CMP forum are all already lined up for 'em, price is no object. They're gonna snap 'em up like hotcakes, just like everything else special the CMP gets - like carbines, 03's/03-A3's, crates of ammo, armor piercing ammo, high-grade Garands, etc. Gotta get up real early and have big piles o' cash to compete with those boys.

This is it, pretty much.

I am a collector as well, but I am decidedly blue-collar and as such, am always on a severe budget.

The CMP used to be an organization someone like me could count on to pick up a nice, genuine piece for a fair price.

Seems like in the last few years, gun collecting has become a "thing" for deep-pocketed individuals and is pricing guys like me out of the market.

Guess I was just born too late.

 

[ATLDave]

I don't reckon much marksmanship is going to be generated at those prices. These things will be collector's items, fated to rest in a safe after years of hard service.

Nobody who wants a shooter is going to pay $1k for a beat up, shot out old pistol.

 

[Old Fuff]

I have no idea what the current crop are going to look like, but back in the day the "unserviceable" guns from the DCM arrived in arsenal-refurbished/like new condition. Turns out they were classified as unserviceable because they weren't inspected prior to shipping.

The Old Fuff's experience in gun collecting goes back to the late 1940's. Admittedly they're are a lot of folks who have bucks that have decided to invest in antique and classic collectables rather then the stock market. But a much younger Old Fuff was not flush with bucks but able to cope anyway.

For example, about 2 years ago I came across a 1911A1 in very decent shape where the seller was begging to get $600.

The low price reflected that an earlier owner had Micro (adjustable) sights installed. Supposedly this ruined any collector value. However nothing had been done that couldn't be reversed. Thus it soon became "like issued" again.

Today's less-then-wealthy gun fans who can't afford the currently high prices for whatever they desire have two choices. Grouse about in on Internet forums, or go out and find unexpected opportunities. I did (and still do) the latter.

 

[PabloJ]

A beat up Rand is over a grand and ones with mis-matched parts bring $500 to $600. I would think for $1000 you military luvers would be all over those. If you want a shooter buy new POS made in developing country where labor is cheap. I bought second-hand Colt M45A1 otherwise I would look into one of them graded ones.

 

[bannockburn]

I think for an original 1911 that's a fair price. I don't necessarily have the money for it now but if I did I would get one.

 

[Jim Watson]

I said on TFL

A small PD near here got three 1911s from some fed program last year.
I don't know if they were from the same pool of guns the CMP will be liquidating but you should hope they were.
Two were arsenal refurbs in unscuffed Parkerizing with sharp plastic grips.
Mixmasters, but actual USGI with no possibility of misrepresentation or outright fraud as is so common on the retail market. $1000? You bet.
The third was a Remington Rand, maybe original, maybe a lucky "correct" refurb, I did not have the opportunity to study it under magnification with reference books at hand. Either way, I expect one like it would be a CMP Auction gun.

 

[Tirod]

"Lots of speculation about the 1911's being released soon."

Fixed it for ya.

I have read one comment on the net that purported to say they could be available as early as July. As noted - frequently across the net - there is no Secretary of the Army at this time, and the placeholder isn't going to release any.

Anybody starting to feel like they hyped themselves into another Magpul Masada for $799? None of the parties to this have promised a thing, but I do think we are letting our expectations get the better of us.

I really need to get those forms printed out and sent in . . .

 

[Hacker15E]

Personally, I'm just happy that the CMP has secured another source of funding for when the Garands run out.

 

[CoalTrain49]

I have several new Colt 1911's. I think the going price for a new 01991 is about 7 and change. If you want a shooter that would be your best bet. No need to be looking for any 'five hundred dollar deals' here because the CMP is going to price these around the actual market value.

I have to laugh because there is always someone who thinks a business, which the CMP is, needs to sell their merchandise below market value. The CMP is now a non profit corporation and is not associated with the Army any longer. I suspect that most of the complainers here aren't qualified to purchase anyway.

I heard a rumor that there will be a limit to the number one can purchase in a year (less than three) so there won't be any 'collectors' posting them up on GB in any large numbers.

 

[jrmiddleton425]

I suspect that most of the complainers here aren't qualified to purchase anyway.

Getting qualified to purchase from CMP is so easy, my Golden Retriever could do it.

 

[CoalTrain49]

Yes, very easy.

Join a club that is a CMP affiliate.