CMP Gets 100,000 M1 Garands from the Philippines and Turkey.

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CMP Gets 100,000 M1 Garands from the Philippines and Turkey.

During and after World War II, the U.S. loaned tens of thousands of M1 Garands to our allies. Among those allies were the Philippines and Turkey. Approximately 100,000 M1s have been returned and are, or were until very recently, being stored by the U.S. Army.

The CMP received the Garands over the last month or so. Currently, the CMP is busy prepping the guns for sale.

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This is truly amazing. When you think nearly all the surplus M1s are gone, more just keep turning up. Makes you wonder what other surplus guns that supposedly dried up from the era are sitting in a ware house somewhere. Especially considering, a Garand is one of the more desirable rifles from the era.

Any idea on condition and if they happened to use corrosive ammo?
 
Some of those rifles may have been shortened to better fit the smaller-framed orientals. I remember hearing about that.
 
From the GCA newsletter; The 86,000 M1s are going to be expensive. They say they have 7 million dollars invested in bringing the M1s home again. Termite infestations, boat repair problems with the boat they leased, and asbestos abatement.
 
Sounds like reasonably good news.

Of course, unless they stop the hording problem by instituting say a 2 per year limit (as opposed to the absurd 8 per year limit now) or start charging fair market prices (as the law actually requires they do) then this will do very little to get rifles into the hands of interested shooters.

Sadly, the CMP is a corrupt and less than law abiding organization.
 
How about going back to the DCM limit of one ever? The CMP is self supporting and if they could not flog stuff out the door in quantity, they could not operate.

I was appalled when they increased the purchase limit to five. A gun show wheeler dealer here signed up his whole family, everybody ordered five, giving him 25 rifles to work with. He took them down and started matching parts, buying a few pieces. He was able to assemble several "correct" M1s which he sold for a large profit. He sold the rest of the "mixmasters" for a small profit, keeping essentially free shooters for himself and his sons.

When CMP was selling .22s, I went to the South Store and bought a NIB Kimber. I later got an H&R. I would have bought one of the cheap used Kimbers but the guy ahead of me bought every one worth having, four or five rifles.
 
Much of the above is why I will likely never own a Garand. That and I can buy any number of new production rifles for far less. I recall a short blurb in High School history class about the CMP being started to arm citizens and encourage them to learn to shoot. Everything I read nowadays feels counterproductive toward that end; collectors and dealers snapping up everything and US property being sold back to the People who supposedly already own it, having paid for its original production.
 
That's kind of harsh... But I do agree that they should at least limit purchases to one or two per year per individual. In the spirit of their primary Mission which is promoting Marksmanship, they should endeavor to spread the wealth as it were among more potential owners, and discourage multiple purchases at the same time, and on the same form.

The CMP has been fairly good to me, and over the years I've acquired two M1s, one 1903 A3 and two M1 carbines. That's over a 20-year span, so I'm pretty sure I'm not hoarding.

Llama Bob said:
Sounds like reasonably good news.

Of course, unless they stop the hording problem by instituting say a 2 per year limit (as opposed to the absurd 8 per year limit now) or start charging fair market prices (as the law actually requires they do) then this will do very little to get rifles into the hands of interested shooters.

Sadly, the CMP is a corrupt and less than law abiding organization.
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wojownik said:
That's kind of harsh... But I do agree that they should at least limit purchases to one or two per year per individual. In the spirit of their primary Mission which is promoting Marksmanship, they should endeavor to spread the wealth as it were among more potential owners, and discourage multiple purchases at the same time, and on the same form.

The CMP has been fairly good to me, and over the years I've acquired two M1s, one 1903 A3 and two M1 carbines. That's over a 20-year span, so I'm pretty sure I'm not hoarding.
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The CMP (Thank You) has a new business model.

They have a very large endowment, and a Country Club, now... and no longer wish to be in the expensive and labor intensive business of surplus refurbishment and sales.

For them, the sooner they run out? The better.

Money-money-money...




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Llama Bob said:
Sounds like reasonably good news.

Of course, unless they stop the hording problem by instituting say a 2 per year limit (as opposed to the absurd 8 per year limit now) or start charging fair market prices (as the law actually requires they do) then this will do very little to get rifles into the hands of interested shooters.

Sadly, the CMP is a corrupt and less than law abiding organization.
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Wow, that is pretty harsh. I don't agree with everything that the CMP does, but they have been a conduit to get these great, historical weapons into the hands of American shooters. And collectors (I guess that's another way to describe hoarders). I too think that the limits were maybe too lenient, but every rifle they sold is one that won't meet the crusher. As for fair market value, you can easily make $100, maybe more, on any CMP rifle purchase for just filling out the paperwork and reselling. There weren't many times you couldn't buy some kind of Garand from them.

Any of us could have taken advantage and started a closet business of buying and reselling Garands and I can't fault the people who did. We live in a capitalistic economy where that kind of thinking is rewarded. It is all about the money and they are now a corporation not part of the US Army.
 
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So my first though is great!
1. The 50-80 yr. old M1 Hoarders can now get that 14th rifle for the basement!

And
2. The revenue stream for M1 flippers who abuse the CMP just got an extension.

The CMP should make at least half these rifles available to first time buyers only.

And the other half should be priced starting at $1,000 for rack grade to discourage the profiteers who immediately resale or part out.

Of course all of this would avoided if CMP would go back to the one rifle per man policy. After all isn't it about marksmanship, not hoarding and profit taking?
 
I wouldn't mind getting one.

Actually grew up in them. My dad had two CMP Garands that we waited in this huge line for. We took them out pretty much every time we went shooting, about every other weekend.
 
I'm glad I bought my Garands when I did -- 5 in total, one from each manufacturer, plus an extra Springfield NM. I think that completes my Garand collection.
 
I agree it should be one rifle per year. As to CMP selling garand for too much money, that is completely absurd. The going prices for garands in average condition at shops here is about $1100
 
I think that anyone interested who hasn't got one should quit whining about price and just get a rifle.

No matter what it costs you'll forever be glad you have one even if only for the ability to hold a connection to the best this nation has ever been in your hands.
 
They probably need to sell them while they can, since the next administration may shut them down. Over the years I bought an M1, 1903A3, and a 1898 Krag from them and all three of those rifles are worth more than I paid for them.
 
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