Comparison 7.62x39 vs. 30-30

[hq]

It is very hard to make any mini14 or mini30 accurate just because of the minor diameter of the barrel ahead of the chamber.

It's good to remember that accurate in absolute terms and accurate enough for intended purpose can mean very different things. I'm not sure if a couple of evenings in the garage was a lot of effort but it certainly made the difference between not necessarily hitting a soda can at 50yd and confidence of delivering a bullet to deer's vitals at 200. Making one a benchrest rifle would be far more elaborate of course, but for a lightweight hunting carbine that's mainly shot offhand and from shooting sticks, it's pretty much where it needs to be. A nice match to the caliber; the gun runs out of accuracy at distances the bullet runs out of speed for adequate deformation. A longer bull barrel would increase muzzle velocity and improve accuracy dramatically, but it would also add quite a bit of weight and ruin its fast handling, easy to carry nature.

 

[1stmarine]

It's good to remember that accurate in absolute terms and accurate enough for intended purpose can mean very different things. I'm not sure if a couple of evenings in the garage was a lot of effort but it certainly made the difference between not necessarily hitting a soda can at 50yd and confidence of delivering a bullet to deer's vitals at 200. Making one a benchrest rifle would be far more elaborate of course, but for a lightweight hunting carbine that's mainly shot offhand and from shooting sticks, it's pretty much where it needs to be. A nice match to the caliber; the gun runs out of accuracy at distances the bullet runs out of speed for adequate deformation. A longer bull barrel would increase muzzle velocity and improve accuracy dramatically, but it would also add quite a bit of weight and ruin its fast handling, easy to carry nature.

They don't have to be bull barrels they can be fixed with middle profiles the way it should be from the begining tapering down just like the M1A.
But I understand. The mini is a great ranch rifle and it has the accuracy necessary to do what is intended for. Same thing wiht an AK.
A totally trashed AK or mini might not be so good but we don't see so many like those anymore. Good ammo also makes a difference no matter what rifle.

 

[mavracer]

Good ammo also makes a difference no matter what rifle.

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I've got a couple match grade ARs that'll shoot sub MOA out to 600 guess what happens when you feed them green tips?

 

[Art Eatman]

Enuf wandering from the OP.