CZ-527 7.62x39mm?

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For those that mention trigger overtravel, etc...the thing is fully adjustable to get rid of any slop. I have mine down to almost a mouse click.:cool:

One more thing, when resizing brass to reload, DON'T use full lengh resizing once it's fired in your gun. I had frustrating light primer strikes until I figured this out.
I plan to shoot only commercial ammo in this rifle, mostly steel cased cheap stuff for plinking with some better quality steel and brass stuff for target shooting. For hunting, I will use some sort of good soft point of ballistic tip ammo.

I don't reload, and the 7.62x39mm affordability is a big draw to this rifle for me.
 
I have one in .223 and one is 762x39. My 223 is the rifle that I work with the most. The 762x39 is a beast of a rifle. The AK round is not inherently an in-accurate round, it is just traditionally put in in-accurate guns. Also, a bit of trivia, both of these guns were designed to shoot the steel cased surplus ammo. They are more accurate with brass cased and hand loads, but, the steel case ammo is what they were designed for. And, I would not get rid of either one of mine.
 
I have never shot steel cased anything in mine. Always worried about sending a steel bullet down the bore. And of course corrosive ammo. I used factory loads and hand loads. I liked mine so much I got one in 204 Ruger.
 
Own one for about 2 years and

ANYONE that shoots it,wants one !!.

They are not cheap,but the ammo is.

I love it and feel well armed for ANYTHING that needs shooting in North America [ except brown/polar bear].

Its a whitetail deer gun that can take boar if I feel like it.
 
Okay so I just read a report on another forum that said the new 7.62x39mm CZ-527s don't shoot the steel cased surplus stuff well at all and have the wrong size bore diameters. Has anyone heard anything about this??
 
My mid aughties vintage 7.62x39 had a .310 x .300 barrel.

The reports of "incorrect" bores go back to a erroneous report in American rifleman
 
Does the .310 bore shoot 308 projectile well? .310/311 bullets will be hard to find if intend to reload for it unless cast.
 
125 Sierra .311 dia. with Re 7 yield 2405 '/s and about 1" @ 100 yds. Hornady 100 gr..312 xtp pistol bullet with H110 gets 2437'/s and 1 1/2" @ 100 yds. , very close to the same place. It is explosive on varmints! Love the gun!
 
DH,
Are you confusing steel CASED with steel JACKETED?


And I'll post another reference to the Kindle "Surviving With CZ" book.
Covers two 527s, one a scoped .223, the other an iron-sighted 7.62x39.

Denis
 
I was referring to both. I really wasn't saying that you couldn't shoot steel case or steel jacketed, steel cored or other steel projectiles. Just that I don't. I paid a bunch for the rifle and can shoot the surplus stuff well enough in my Saiga.
 
Okay... so some guys are saying these guns are made to shoot the steel cased surplus stuff, and they get 2-3 MOA with it if not better.

Others are saying it is as inaccurate as an AK and that the bore diameters are wrong on the new guns. What gives?

I understand it won't be a tack driver with Wolf or Tulammo, but how will it do with say Hornady steel match or Lapua brass cased stuff? Will it shoot good? Again, I do NOT reload and have no intentions of doing so.

Somebody please help me!!
 
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Somebody please help me!!

Before you freak out, why not take another trip to the range and shoot? You already own the rifle, right.

Iirc, you mentioned somewhere that you do not yet reload. Shoot it some more with the ammunition you can readily procure, then if you don't like your perceived accuracy results, sell it.

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Before you freak out, why not take another trip to the range and shoot? You already own the rifle, right.

Iirc, you mentioned somewhere that you do not yet reload. Shoot it some more with the ammunition you can readily procure, then if you don't like your perceived accuracy results, sell it.

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No I don't own it yet, and I'm not freaking out... I just need to know that the new guns are indeed made to shoot the steel surplus ammo, and that they'll shoot them better than most AK or SKS rifles.

That's it.

Also, I've got an opportunity for a hog hunt in Oklahoma at the end of the month. Would you guys say this would be enough for hogs? Any hog loads you recommend? Or is it not enough gun for the job?
 
Again- spend a whopping $3 on that Kindle book & read through the 527 sections.

Bore size & steel ammunition addressed, along with accuracy, velocities, and energy figures. :)
Denis
 
Mine shoots well with PMC 7.62x39 123 grain ammo. The bore size is 310 and designed to shoot 311 bullets. I reload with 311 bullets as well.
 
DPris were you speaking of:

The Survivalist Papers Volume 2015-1: Surviving with CZ Kindle Edition by Denis Prisbrey?

I just grabbed it on my Ipad. You don't need a kindle to view it. You can get a Kindle app on your laptop, desktop, Iphone, Ipad, or Android phone/tablet. I will check it out.
 
That's it.
I know you don't need a Kindle device, but it was written as a Kindle book.
Just advising on where to find it.
Denis
 
You wouldn't happen to know the author would you? I knew that you knew about the Kindle. Just elaborating on what was said earlier.

The book forgets to mention one important thing. The stock on the carbine is so nice that you don't want to take it outside in fear of getting it scratched or dirty.

The book also talking me into wanting a 455.
 
As a matter of fact, my wife happens to sleep with the author regularly. :)

I'm quite fond of my 455s.
Woulda kept that little 7.62 527 had I not already filled the same role with something else.
I've worked with two in the caliber, one several years back & one late last year.
It's hard to return 'em to CZ when done. They're just such neat little guns in that carbine configuration & caliber.
Denis
 
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You wouldn't happen to know the author would you?

Hee!

Thank you, DP for this work. I've just downloaded it onto my phoablet and will begin reading soon. Thanks, dh, too, for the complete title otherwise I might not have been able to find it. I seem to lack what should be the now-rudimentary skills in finding and procuring this e-book. Sincerely.

:)
 
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I suppose that should read, "the now-requisite, rudimentary skills" in finding e-books online.

I wanted to add also in an attempt to aid Cooldill's decision my experience that when considering the purchase of my 527 Carbine six or seven years ago, I had been looking for a .308 bolt rifle. This was well-before I became aware of any scout-rifle concept. When presented with this "miniature" rifle after shouldering many standard-sized hunting rifles, I asked the counterman, "What's this?" He replied, "It's a surprise..."

I told him I'd sleep on my decision and would return the next day, went home and promptly researched the CZ 527 Carbine in 7.62 X 39. What I discovered only moments into my findings was that anyone that had had one and sold it, regretted it. And that for anyone who presently had one, it was fast becoming one of their favorites to shoot. I returned to the store that afternoon to begin the DROS.

I first used Russian milsurp ammunition through it; Berdan-primed, brass-cased jacketed lead core stuff. Within two or three range trips while aiming for 200 yd steels through the irons, using my elbows as my rest, I was hitting 3 or 4 times every five rounds (I wasn't holding high enough). The rangemaster approached me later during a ceasefire and said quietly, "You're outshooting guys with scopes...". Must have been an off day for them. Mighta been no0bs and I was using the set trigger.

Since then I've also used Fiocchi 7.62 X 39 from the green, 20-rd boxes with similar accuracy results but also had some light strikes/hard primers issues. I noticed that the issue was with a certain lot that had brass-colored primers but the rifle had no misfires with what looked like the lots with nickel-colored primers. I've since paid close attention to the firing-pin stop (the back of the bolt contact with the rear of the action) and installed a "stronger" striker spring (forget the brand but I may still have it's packaging if anyone would like to know). I've sold off the questionable lots of that Fiocchi to a buddy with an AK which he says will eat anything.

I've not used my CZ in some time, lately opting to take some of my leverguns and my Gunsite Scout to the range. I've since acquired some Red Army and Wolff steel-cased (which carry the same markings on the cases) X 39 stuff but I am limited to where I can shoot it due to it's steel-core bullet's potential for sparks downrange (fire danger here in the drought-plagued southwest). I am itching to shoot it again now that I have the others dialed in.

Point being that even with the doubts you may have about the rifle due to internet lore, once you find the ammo it likes (and/or begin to reload), this carbine is a keeper. A real "hotrod" of a little rifle!
 
Like I said- it was HARD to return the two 7.62 samples I had here.

At a particular stage of life, acquiring more guns begins to reach the point of futility, especially when you already have so many you don't have time for. :)

My niche for a bolt-action ".30-30 Class" carbine has been filled by a Ruger (slightly mis-named) Compact Magnum in .308 with a 20-inch iron-sighted barrel.

Fairly short & light, and at the moment I prefer the power.

But- the 527 in 7.62 is one of the best modern choices for replacing the old .30-30 as a general purpose totin' carbine you can find.

A tremendously fine truck or camp gun, if you don't need to be dealing with sizable critters.

I still may end up with one to keep someday. :)
Denis
 
There are so many here that own and have posted about the little CZ that could. While I didn't want to ruin the thing with surplus stuff, I see 200Applies has no such problem which isn't a problem at all. I loved his comments.

Denis, thanks for your writings on the CZ product line. I read all the way up to the end of the Carbine portion last night. I shouldn't have no problem finishing up today. Good reading. I agree with you on the point of acquiring more firearms gets to a point where too much is too much. Over the last year I have been leaning out the stable, but also acquiring better. Sell two, buy one or sell three and buy one. Better is better. The CZ is on the keeper list. I had just sold a bolt 22 and was looking for its replacement. The 455 just might be the ticket.

For others reading, don't sell your CZ and then regret it.
 
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