Devoloping a favorite load 45-70 this time

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Tom, Went out yesterday and went to the range. with to bad results. I fired the trap door 10 times. I had it benched at 25 yards. I started off high, the one bullet missed. I really enjoyed shooting it. After I finished, spent the rest of the day.
Now I got to learn how to load...... TRAP-DOOR 45-70 003.jpg

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What were the bullet weights you were using? That isn't bad and at 50 or 100 may have been better.
The book I'm reading says at 200 yds the 1st round should held at 175, the 2nd at 185 and the 3rd at 200. They shoot better after 3 rounds.
But that said you have a fun day I got rained out.
 
Tom, I just went out and bought some BP 45-70. Don't know what the weight was. The came in a plastic bag that said Black Powder 45-70. You know how it is. Just got it had to shoot it. I will learn more Sunday as far as reloading and bullet weight. We have a BP shoot and that is when, I will get help. And may add much needed help. Don't know a thing about reloading. This is just a cool fun gun. I shoot BP and ball in at the club. Pretty good at it ...but my Honey beats me a lot. For me 25yd is good, I have a Cadillac in my shooting eye. The VA already did my left eye. Waiting for them to do my right. Then I'll try 100yd. Most likely order a press and things to go with it. Any suggestion.......
 
First thing I do when I get home is soak my cases in hot soapy water then riase in hot and let dry best if you can deprime first but still works if you don't.
Midway USA has a Lee Challenger press on sale for $82.00 put in product # 423-081. I use the Lee dies also got a great price on them.
Don't buy the the onebook/one caliber manual for the 45-70 every load un it can be found on line free. All smokless anyway.
 
I just loaded up 10 each 300 gr RCBS FPGC with Federal 210 primer & 43.5 Grs of Varget powder.
And 405 gr Magma cast FP Federal 210 primer with 40.0 grs of Varget.
I'll shoot these in my Sharps but not my trapdoor.
Range report coming.
 
45-70 guard loads

We had a Gentleman,now deceased,who found an old load for Guard Loads.
They were used by guards for prisoners,3 .457 round balls with a charge of fffg,the last ball was crimped to hold load togather.It was supposed to put the balls into prisoner at 50 yds.
 
I shot that .223 mini Mauser...what a sweet gun!And what a sweet old guy Mr.Chegwidden was.My boy was lucky enough to have him as a substitute [history] teacher a coupla times.First time I ever fired at the two hundred yard gong [and hit it] was with ol' Bob's .45-70 Lee rifle. Darn, I think I got somethin' in my eye...darn computer screen's all blurry.
 
I have the book "Loading 45-70 by Spence" I'll have to check it but I think he has a load available for it. If its there I'll post it, right now I'm at a RV campground and book is at the house.
 
45-70 loads

In discussing loads,we hav'nt touched bullet dia or alloy.These issues don't mean much with a ruger using jacketed bullets,but is important in antiques.
I only have two molds,a Lyman fn 405 gr,and an old Ideal 417gr 457 dia w two grease grooves in spitzer form;[for it's day].I have to use soft enough lead to bump up in trapdoor. BHP has some Hollow base molds and I'm sure we can get Him to post some info when He checks in.
For the record,I use Lyman 405's as cast from wheel weights in Browning 1886,w 28 gr 4759,or if I want to damage tissue[mine],I use 50 gr 30-31.
 
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