Do You Go Places You Can't Carry?

[earlthegoat2]

I travel out of state often and rather than encumber myself with the nuances of reciprocities and details of the carry laws of other states, I just leave it at home. I can carry in my direct neighboring states from where I live so I do in those places but a few states over I just leave it.

I figure if Intelligence agents can do it across the globe on a regular basis, I can do it for relatively short periods of time as well. Some will say, Sure but you are not an intelligence agent. My response will be a shrug. That’s just a metaphor anyway.

 

[lightman]

Sure, sometimes I have to. Voting places, Post Office, some of the Grandkids school functions that are in the building, hospital visits, ect. I just lock it in the console in the truck and make sure when I lock the truck that I hit the right button to set the alarm. I feel nekid without it but its what it is!

 

[Anchorite]

Alabama changed the law a few years back, I can now legally have a gun in my car at work, but that is where it stays during the day.

I don't get all bent about places where it's not legal to carry, do what I can at the voting booth and live within the law.

Ditto here. Fortunately Alabama is low crime compared to many other states. Not to say we don’t have it, because we do.

Everyday I have court I think about the constitutional rights that get surrendered at the door, only for me to go forth and argue for them to be upheld and enforced. Oh the irony.

 

[tarosean]

Yes as I respect the property owners rights just as much as my right to carry. We also enjoy a ton of sporting events.
Plus, I travel internationally for work I go unarmed for very long periods.

 

[buck460XVR]

I spent the first half of my life legally unable to carry a gun in public, and while I feel more secure with one I refuse to let a gun rule my life.

Same here. As a matter of fact, I had been unable to do so legally for 5 and half decades till in 2011, Wisconsin finally legalized CWC. Up til then my only option was "open" carry. Kinda why I do not have the intense negative feelings towards it that so many do. One reason I still sometimes "open" carry. Not being to legally carry for so long makes one good at other things that protect yourself....like being observant and aware of what is going on around you. Not letting yourself get into scenarios where only a gun can save you. Knowing how to defend yourself without a firearm, etc.

How others feel makes no difference to me, whether it is CWC or OC. I don't feel the need to bash others because they don't do as I do and don't have much regard for those that feel the need to bash me. Lots of things in life out there that are a larger threat to me and mine than not having a gun on me every second of the day, yet I still do those things. Part of life. Does not mean I don't thing that CWC is important when it can be done and should be done, just that it's not always the definitive.

 

[Gone Hiking]

Yes. I don't like it, but I'm not missing out on travelling and events because of it.

 

[CoalCrackerAl]

Last concert i been too. They did not wand us over. I was surprised. It was to see Alice Copper. At the York fair grounds. Post office i have carried into. I did not know it was forbidden. Until i saw it posted on a forum. They do not have signs saying no weapons either,

 

[AlexanderA]

Having a fetish about carrying can put a serious crimp in your lifestyle, especially if you live adjacent to an antigun jurisdiction such as D.C. or Maryland. I recently spent a month in Greece, and of course carrying guns just isn't done there. I didn't feel the least bit deprived.

 

[The Night Rider]

Geez
What do ya do for fun ?

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I don't like crowds and I don't like loud either.

I think the last time I went to an actual concert was to see Trisha Yearwood at the Air Force Academy. I'm pretty sure that was in the early 90s. My wife and I used to attend a Christmas Concert every year at Glen Eyrie


But the hall wasn't very big and after a while it started feeling crowded and uncomfortable.

My wife and I rarely if ever eat out and that may be the reason that we notice the decline in quality in restaurants because it's not incremental for us. We notice the skyrocketing prices because it's not incremental for us.

I mean, I could go down the list but the long and short of it is that there's just nothing out there in the entertainment venues that interests either one of us. It's not that we'd love to go but we're just too fearful it's we don't want to go because we're not interested.

 

[The Night Rider]

They do not have signs saying no weapons either,

They absolutely do and they're right on the front door

 

[jmr40]

I don't live my life in fear. I go where I want to go. If I can carry great. If I can't, then I use common sense.

 

[The Night Rider]

I don't live my life in fear. I go where I want to go. If I can carry great. If I can't, then I use common sense.

Why do you assume that the original poster is living his life in fear?

 

[nofendertom]

IIRC, no guns in Post Office also applies to Post Office parking lot.

 

[The Night Rider]

IIRC, no guns in Post Office also applies to Post Office parking lot.

Didn't that get overturned in a court case a couple of years ago?

 

[bearcreek]

Didn't that get overturned in a court case a couple of years ago?

It was, but then the overturning was overturned. https://www.ammoland.com/2017/06/can-you-carry-a-gun-at-the-post-office/#axzz7nqIMPBIP

 

[GEM]

Overseas - is there any place an American can carry outside of being Mitch Rapp?
I wasn't going not to go on an expense paid set of trips to the UK for work because of carry laws.

 

[theotherwaldo]

No and to elaborate:
I don't watch or care about sports, so I'm missing nothing of interest by not going to ballgames.
Concert? Last time I went was in the 1980's. Crowds and loud aint my thing.
Airplane? Last time was in the 1980's. We drove for vacations and now live where we use to vacation, I can walk to the beach. Also, I boarded dogs once in the past and it made me feel terrible; I'd rather not go on vacation than board my (our) dogs, so dogs always went with us.
Universal / Disney? Been several times before metal detectors, the rides make me sick. I'm on rides with my eyes shut praying to Jesus but he can't hear you from inside Harry Potter. Its not fun to ride a couple rides then be nauseous the rest of the day. My wife still goes to Universal with our boys who are now 18/19 and I stay home with the dogs; they use the money saved from my ticket to get fast passes. Win-win, I'm not sick and they stand in line less.

That said, I spent years as a teacher in KY where carry was a felony, so I didn't carry. Thankfully, I'm not encumbered by work now.

Avoiding metal detectors is not keeping me from doing anything I'm interested in doing.

Sports? I quit caring when I quit playing.
Concerts? Burned out on them when I was roadying.
Airplane? Maybe once per decade, when the job requires or someone else pays. I'd rather drive.
Disneyland? Nah. Mother used to work there as an artist until she got tired of being hit on by the bosses. -And I have no kids. Boring.
-And after working as a carnie and assembling carnival rides at 2:00 in the morning with a crew of drunks, you couldn't get me on a carnival ride... .
I'm not a teacher anymore, either.
The main time that I have to leave my gun behind is when I go to the doctor's office.

 

[CDW4ME]

Geez
What do ya do for fun ?

I enjoy spending time with my wife, bicycle rides together, walk to the beach - yesterday we we nearly had the beach to ourselves, only saw a couple of other people, walking my dogs, going shooting, taking as long as I want for lunch (I only got a ridiculous 25 minutes for years), exercise, driving with the top down (benefit of living in FL). I'm a simple man to keep happy. Its a chilly 60 degrees today, so we will sit outside by the firepit this afternoon.

 

[GBExpat]

... I'm talking metal detectors/security or other countries.

I generally avoid places where I am legally prohibited from carrying ... but sometimes it cannot be avoided (courthouse, post office, airport, etc).

... that said, I voted No.

 

[D.B. Cooper]

This whole discussion really highlights, to me at least, where we need to be putting in maximum political effort nationwide. I know a lot of us want CCW reciprocity, but that doesn't work if most places are "gun free zones." Repeal of GCA and NFA are all fine and well, but not terribly useful for personal self defense if, like me, you can't carry the vast majority of the day, almost every day of your life, because your employer says no (or, as in my case, there is an actual law to back that up.)

Understanding, of course, that elimination of gun free zones is an extremely steep, uphill climb. Even the Bruen decision upheld the basic principle of gun free zones. The basic question is thus: is there ever a time and place to nullify the Constitution? (That is a thread all unto itself.)

 

[AlexanderA]

Overseas - is there any place an American can carry outside of being Mitch Rapp?

Only places like Yemen and Somalia, but you wouldn't want to go there anyway.

Even places that have relatively liberal gun laws, like the Czech Republic or Finland, apply those laws only to their own citizens.

America is unique (you might say an anomaly) when it comes to enshrined gun rights in general, and carrying in particular. The OP's question assumes that carrying is normal. It isn't.

 

[Howland937]

Do I make an effort to avoid places I can't carry? Yes. Do I sometimes go places I can't carry? Also yes. I rarely leave the state I live in. There are plenty of places I'd like to visit across this country and around the globe, but my job doesn't require it, my schedule doesn't permit it and my wife's fear of flying doesn't make it likely.

So while I may be required to enter a building that's illegal to carry in, I don't cross any borders that would make me an instant criminal.

 

[guyfromohio]

I can relate. I have no interest in going to sporting events. I think the last concert I attended was Alice Cooper in '72, now I want nothing to do with crowded venues. I was on an airplane once in my life and that was many years ago for work.

I would not willingly go somewhere that restricted my constitutional rights.

I just got my tickets for Alice Cooer this summer…with a couple other greats.

 

[Ignition Override]

Absolutely. Not just in the US.
We go somewhere every year. Visited Lake Constance in September. Stayed in Lindau, and then in Dornbirn , about 15 miles south of the huge lake.

That’s where Austria, Germany and Swit. more or less meet.

The many people we saw who walked around after dinner or hearing live world-class vocal music (the “Schubertiade” we attended in Hohenems) in the darkness —also—did Not seem concerned about anything- including in the underground parking lots of hotels, really small "cities".
How can those places be grouped with Chicago, downtown Memphis, Philly etc? They can't.

——-Danger became apparent, one day.
I rode a bicycle in very light traffic in Lindau, semi-rural, mostly on designated shoulder/trails and had " vergessen " to ask the hotel owner for a Helmet!. Das war dumm.

Don’t lose the “big picture”.

 

[.308 Norma]

My wife and I went to the airport in Idaho Fall yesterday to welcome our grandson home on leave (Army) and we locked our CCWs in the truck before we went inside. It had probably been 20+ years since either of us had been in an airport, and we didn't know what to expect.
It turned out I didn't see any metal detectors at the doors anyway, and we didn't go anywhere close to the gates. So, I guess we'd have been okay wearing our guns inside the terminal.
Other than that, I've been visiting medical clinic and the hospital a lot lately (cardio scans and echocardiograms), and of course I lock my CCW in the truck for those visits. Things are looking pretty good with my 74-year-old heart though, so hopefully I won't have to do any more of them for a while.
Oh, and the other place my wife and I go fairly often where carry without an Idaho "Enhanced" Concealed Carry License is forbidden is Idaho State University. Like my wife and I, both of our daughters and 2 of our grandsons are ISU alumni, so we have ties there and end up on-campus every once in a while. That's the main reason we took the class and got our Idaho "Enhanced" Concealed Carry Licenses. We don't much care about reciprocity with other states, and buying guns in Idaho without the phone-in background check is convenient, but we had that convenience when all we had were just our regular Idaho Concealed Carry Licenses.
I really don't know about Costco. My wife and I go there too sometimes, and it seems like I remember someone here on THR saying Costco forbids carry in their stores. We've never seen any signs on the doors though, so we carry (discreetly) there anyway. I guess if Costco figures out we're carrying in their store and don't like it, they can cancel our membership. That wouldn't break my heart.