Does anyone forsee a national CCW...

[Hypnogator]

We'll never see a National CCW law. Most likely scenario is Fed mandated reciprocity, hopefully with provisions that would keep "special" places (like NYC) from exempting themselves.

A better law would be a Fed requirement for "full faith and credit" to state permits, so that even states without CCW would be forced to recognize permits from states that issue them. (Would apply GREAT pressure on the non-CCW states to pass their own CCW laws, as out-of-state visitors would be authorized to carry weapons, where residents wouldn't.)

The only chance we have for a "National CCW" is if at some time in the future, SCOTUS recognizes the 2nd Amendment as an individual right, and interprets "keep and bear arms" as meaning just what it says, including bearing concealed arms.

Still, keeping my fingers crossed. Would like to visit NYC, Chicago, and Miami some time. And they are all "two magazine" places.

 

[Hal]

An armed terrorist attack bringing a demand for National CCW?!?!

Puh-leeze, dream on...

That's not how it works.

When armed bad men do evil,,,arms are removed from good men.

 

[answerguy]

Still, keeping my fingers crossed. Would like to visit NYC, Chicago, and Miami some time.

Miami? You can't CCW in Miami? Is that true?

 

[Bill St. Clair]

As some others have said, we already have national CCW: the Second Amendment. We don't want to allow the feds to turn our right to keep and bear arms into a privilege to carry concealed. That's the trap in all licensing and registration schemes.

All we need to make this stick is citizens with the balls to shoot dead on the spot any cop who attempts to deny any of our unalienable rights.

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"Every man, woman, and responsible child has an unalienable individual, civil, Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's permission." -- L. Neil Smith

 

[answerguy]

All we need to make this stick is citizens with the balls to shoot dead on the spot any cop who attempts to deny any of our unalienable rights.

And now the lunatic fringe has been heard from. Is anyone going to jump on his band wagon?

 

[hd1.]

Progress in Michigan

{Attorney General Mike Cox has asked me to reply to your correspondence
concerning whether Michigan concealed pistol licensees may carry their
pistols in other states.

As you know, Michigan law recognizes permits issued by other states to
their residents. In an effort to determine which states recognize
Michigan-issued permits, we contacted each of the 49 other states and to
date have heard back from 38 of them. It appears that only four will
require a reciprocity agreement with the State of Michigan. We are in
the process of entering into those agreements. We will be posting the
results of our survey on the Attorney General website at:
http://www.michigan.gov/ag/ This information should be available by
mid-February of 2003. Please refer to that website for the list of states that recognize Michigan-issued permits.


Thank you for your correspondence and for your interest in this subject.

Diane VanderMoere
Department of Attorney General}

 

[PDshooter]

You mean that S&W640 I carry from time to time all over this country, is illegal to do!

 

[JPM70535]

If a National CCW were proposed, and if the Bush administration pushed for it, with the Attorney General we have, and with both bodies of Congress being controlled by the Republicans,I would say it is possible but not probable. The hue and cry from the Left would be ear shattering.

The best hope for national CCW would be mutual reciprosity between the states, and although I believe more states will join those who already do, there is absolutely no way IMO that places like the PRNY, PRNJ, PRK, PRDC, ( and I know I'm leaving out some others) will ever cooperate.

Although I fail to see the validity of CCWs as the 2nd amendment seems crystal clear on my RKBA, Until that right is confirmed by SCOTUS, the only thing to do is work with what is available ane keep up the pressure on elected officials at all levels.

I personally try to limit my travels to those states where my CCP is accepted and avoid like the plague those places where it is not.


GOD MADE MAN, SAM COLT MADE THEM ALL EQUAL!!!

 

[Waitone]

Ain't gonna happen.

I wouldn't want it if was possible.

Whatever the federales giveth, the federales can taketh away. I'd just as soon have them leave it to the states to sort through the issues.

That said there are a lot of issues that have to be coordinated with or without reciprocity.

I live in a state that has reciprocity with no other state. Border states have 3 different standards for sale transportation some of which are mutually contradictory.

As much of a pain in the rear the laws are, I'd rather not see the federales big foot the issue.

 

[PDshooter]

WaitOne is 1000% right!
What the Feds giveth they can taketh!
I'll trust State Goverment over Fed,Goverment anyday of the week!
CK out FLA. CCW it's good in 20 states now.You don't have to be a FLA resident to get one..
Mine in the mail!! and I'm from PRI

 

[44Brent]

Full Faith and Credit

I am planning to initiate a lawsuit against Illinois based on the Full Faith & Credit clause of the Constitution. Will provide more information with a link to my web site later.

 

[Strings]

IIRC...

... there was talk on TFL twords the end about a bill in Congress to cover CCW under the FF&C clause. The gist being that, if you could legally carry in your home state (permits or lived in Vermont), then you could legally carry anywhere according to normal limitations (such as "victim disarmament zones" like schools)...

Were something like this passed, I think someone in Vermont would make a killing on setting up some form of forwarding system for "out of state residence"...