280PLUS said:
Then I misunderstood you, what WERE you saying?
I was saying that the things you see from this thread don't happen in truly bad neighborhoods. I know the term 'bad' is subjective, but I have seen and heard folks call a neighborhood that has had 2 murders and maybe a handful or armed robberies in a year "a bad neighborhood" or "getting bad". In the truly bad places in this country, and on this planet, 2 murders and a handful of armed robberies is a slow
week. And in those places, folks tend to make sure about whom they are rolling up on and for what reason, because someone is going to die or be seriously injured, that's just how it goes.
In a neighborhood I spent time in during my youth (cause I never grew up hehe), the utility companies estimated year round because meter readers kept getting robber and/or murdered. Yes, they killed the meter readers, for some cash, and just because they could. They shot at the utility trucks, the police cars, they'd set fire to the fire station...the only folks they never seemed to touch were the mail carriers (because they were federal perhaps?). I eventually went to work for one of these utility companies and I asked the meter readers about it. They had a special 'task force' that would go out, 5-men deep (and armed) with police escorts to read meters twice per year (just before moratorium began and just after it ended each year), and these guys were mostly ex-LEO's or just big mean guys...it had really come to that.
Folks getting killed at convenience stores and gas stations is what happens in the good neighborhoods from time to time. Murder, robbery and rape in the streets during broad daylight, yeah, when you start seeing that weekly, you can say you're in a "bad neighborhood".
When I moved to my current residence to relocate for a job, I moved into an apartment smack in the middle of downtown of this little burgh, nothing like the big city. There are maybe 2000 people that go through town a day, and none on the weekends (compare that to probably 200,000 people per day in a normal sized city)...anyway, folks were asking if I was scared because I was in a "bad neighborhood". I told them if I was ever the victim of a crime here, I would just say I fell or something and never admit it, I'd be embarrassed. I think we had 1 murder this past year in this county, 2 if you count manslaughter.
Anyway, back on track, what I am saying is that this Rambo-mall-ninja BS doesn’t float in the real bad neighborhoods. In Watts, Compton, Harlem, South Central, Broad Street, whateverghetto, you or someone else would be DRT for pulling that crap. When the guns come out, it's bang time.
Not at all. I never said nor implied that. What I said, or meant to say or was TRYING to say is that pool guy and his company share blame for the incident, that is all.
Without a doubt, I completely agree.
As far as the "How do we knows" there's plenty more than just the ones you mention. There's a lot we don't know.
Again, I agree, and that was partially my point. I think you and I are least in the same book, maybe not the same page, but perhaps the same section?