Dumbest thing you've seen at the range?
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Shadow Man
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Well, in theory, unless he intends upon shooting the camera, he needs to remove his finger from the trigger...but other than that, just a cool picture.
Sam1911
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Two hints:
1) That's a BIG, TOUGH man to be so fond of a little "teacup!"
(Always funny when someone sets out to show how "bada$$" they are but instead end up showing off how little they know about shooting.)
2) That's a BIG, TOUGH man to be running around yelling with his hands clapped over his ears and tears on his cheeks!
-Sam
herohog
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If you are talking about ear/hearing protection, It looks to me as he has something in his ear canal. It is to pixelated a 400% to be sure though.
scythefwd
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Sam... I don't know if he can hold that thing any other way. It looks to me that his index finger on his support hand IS directly under the trigger guard. It may just be a small gun with a very BIG man holding it. Does look kinda dainty there doesn't it?
Shadow Man
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Looks to me like he has some kind of electronic insert in his ear...either that or he badly needs a q-tip.
I'm completely and utterly lost on the "teacup" thing though...
At least he has a decent grip and sight picture
I'm completely and utterly lost on the "teacup" thing though...
At least he has a decent grip and sight picture
Cpt. America
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Seen a dude shoot himself in the leg and then say he shouldn't have stolen the gun.
Maverick223
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^That would rank up there as one of the stupidest photos...boy I hope he doesn't read this and get pissed...he might shoot.
Sam1911
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Look again at his grip/stance. As Avenger said, he's using a "teacup" or "cup and saucer" grip -- a bygone remnant of the old "Weaver" stance which was popular a few decades ago -- which won't help him control his revolver very well. His support arm is low, almost UNDER the revolver, and his hand largely grips from below the stocks, rather than wrapping from the side which would give him some real strength. He should be getting 70 % of his grip strength from wrapping the gun and his strong hand fingers with his support hand, and that's not possible with a "teacup" grip.
Check out how THE revolver expert does it: http://www.myoutdoortv.com/pdk/web/smith.html?feedPID=00zG15zm84msK0GbWemanhJ0KNWQYqM4
Or see how a 7 year old girl does it:
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The_Pretender
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Not that I'm against good form or anything, but some fellows have larger/stronger hands and can control quite well.
I have so much damn "hand" that when I do try to grip from the side with the offhand, I still look like a teacup.
I have so much damn "hand" that when I do try to grip from the side with the offhand, I still look like a teacup.
KiowaWarrior
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I had a soldier run his sling up into his M249AR where his ammunition belt was fed, it caused the weapon to jam. The range was called cease-fire, however the soldier placed the weapon onto his knee while kneeling. Before the range safety had time to begin to correct him he grabbed the sling and yanked it out. It proceded to fire and let out about 15 rounds down the left side of the line going between soldiers. He received punishment. Stupidist thing that has happened straight ignorance.
I had a soldier run his sling up into his M249AR where his ammunition belt was fed, it caused the weapon to jam. The range was called cease-fire, however the soldier placed the weapon onto his knee while kneeling. Before the range safety had time to begin to correct him he grabbed the sling and yanked it out. It proceded to fire and let out about 15 rounds down the left side of the line going between soldiers. He received punishment. Stupidist thing that has happened straight ignorance.
Sam1911
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That's certainly fine, but the position of your support arm has a lot to do with it too. And for a larger person, the dropped off-side elbow is actually more awkward than for a skinny person -- and not best practices for either.
There's "adequate" control, and there's "best" control. For some folks who use their revolvers for paper punching on a square range or making tin cans dance, the "teacup" grip will give "adequate" control. They'll probably be able to set up a shot and hit what they're aiming at.
However, put the revolver into a defensive role, and try to drive it faster as one does in defensive or competitive shooting, and the "teacup" grip shows it's weakness. Natural index, trigger control, recovery (split) times, all are improved with a stronger, isosceles hold. The strength with which you can control the gun is just so much greater. Yes, a strong man can control a .38 revolver well enough to hit a target -- even "tea-cupping." But he'll be significantly better/faster with a proper grip.
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That must be the range off of Banner Road just west of Yukon, right?
Nice old guy. Give ya the shirt off his back if ya asked. turned me on to
Garands but an RSO he isn't. About the only thing that sets him off is rapid fire. He'll get on the loudspeaker from inside the office and start yellin' to knock it off.
Still I liked shooting out there before I joined a private club. Peaceful. Rarely crowded and NO DAMN RANGE NAZI's to deal with.
Uhhhh... the photographer might have been just a camera on a tripod with a timer set. Ya think?
Whats wrong with this picture?
Found this on another forum... but believe it or not, no one said anything about his lack of safety...
Some of you guys need to lighten up.
FuzzyBunny
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About Post 325. We did alot of films for state agencies and when we had to do shots like that we always put a mirror downrange and focused on the mirror while the shooter aimed and or fired at the mirror. The whole crew were always behind the shooter.
Don't have a clue as to how he did the shot though.
Don't have a clue as to how he did the shot though.
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So many to choose from...
One that happened to me a few years ago. I'm at my local range on a lane with no one to the left of me in the next two or more lanes. A young guy shows up with his girlfriend who is unfamiliar with guns. He takes the lane two to my left and she takes the one to my immediate left. He gives her some basic firearms safety instruction and then hands her his mom's old 25 ACP. He shows her how to load it and tells her it has feed issues. She'll have to rack the slide manually every time.
So she takes aim, fires, and then brings the gun up so it's pointing straight up. Her boyfriend congratulates her and encourages her. She seems pleased. Up to this point, everything is a-okay. He then tells her she'll have to rack the slide to feed the next shot in. So what does she do? She tilts the gun to her right, so that it's pointing right at my face, and lets the slide fall forward. He watches the whole thing and just smiles, beaming with pride about his new gun toting girl friend.
I am so stunned and dumbfounded about the whole thing, I just stood there without saying anything. Next shot, she does it again. At this point I lay my gun down and step back from the firing line. I watched her empty the entire clip, each time tilting the gun to her right so it would have been pointing right at my head. I wait until she's done shooting (didn't want to spook the brand new shooter who's holding a loaded weapon) and then tell her what she's doing. She seems embarrassed and apologizes.
I'm thinking she's new and it was a simple mistake. I walk back up and proceed to shoot. After her boyfriend shows her how to load it back up, she tilts the gun to the right, again pointing it right at my head, and slides another round back in. At this point I'm glaring at both her and her boyfriend and and let them know that she did it again. Her boyfriend gives me a look like I'm ruining this first experience for his girlfriend. Idiots. I waited until they left before continuing to shoot.
One that happened to me a few years ago. I'm at my local range on a lane with no one to the left of me in the next two or more lanes. A young guy shows up with his girlfriend who is unfamiliar with guns. He takes the lane two to my left and she takes the one to my immediate left. He gives her some basic firearms safety instruction and then hands her his mom's old 25 ACP. He shows her how to load it and tells her it has feed issues. She'll have to rack the slide manually every time.
So she takes aim, fires, and then brings the gun up so it's pointing straight up. Her boyfriend congratulates her and encourages her. She seems pleased. Up to this point, everything is a-okay. He then tells her she'll have to rack the slide to feed the next shot in. So what does she do? She tilts the gun to her right, so that it's pointing right at my face, and lets the slide fall forward. He watches the whole thing and just smiles, beaming with pride about his new gun toting girl friend.
I am so stunned and dumbfounded about the whole thing, I just stood there without saying anything. Next shot, she does it again. At this point I lay my gun down and step back from the firing line. I watched her empty the entire clip, each time tilting the gun to her right so it would have been pointing right at my head. I wait until she's done shooting (didn't want to spook the brand new shooter who's holding a loaded weapon) and then tell her what she's doing. She seems embarrassed and apologizes.
I'm thinking she's new and it was a simple mistake. I walk back up and proceed to shoot. After her boyfriend shows her how to load it back up, she tilts the gun to the right, again pointing it right at my head, and slides another round back in. At this point I'm glaring at both her and her boyfriend and and let them know that she did it again. Her boyfriend gives me a look like I'm ruining this first experience for his girlfriend. Idiots. I waited until they left before continuing to shoot.
There are multiple ranges at my local range. As you drive in there are multiple short ranges for competition shooting (mainly cowboy action). Then, there is the 100 yard rimfire range, followed by the "all gun" range, and then a place to shoot skeet. Each of these ranges are separated by large dirt berms. On the "all gun" range is the RO's building. This is where you check-in, get sand bags, purchase additional targets, etc. The rear of this building butts up against the large dirt berm that separates it from the rimfire only range. A grown man could possibly squeeze behind it, but it wouldn't be easy.
One day I was shooting on the "all gun" range and a man and his young son show up. The boy is probably around the ages of 7 to 8. The father sets up in one of the lanes next to the RO's shack. The boy gets bored and wanders off. A few minutes later I catch movement out of the corner of my eye from down range to my right. This young man apparently has climbed in between the berm and the RO's shack and couldn't get back out. He has a terrified look on his face and is leaning out from the side of the building waving his arms trying to get his dad to stop shooting. His dad's looking through his scope down range and doesn't notice and the range officers are too busy gabbing with each other to notice. I immediately called a cease-fire and pointed him out to the RO's who were shocked to see this young man peering out from the side of the shack.
The father was furious and drug his boy back behind the firing line and made him sit on the ground until he was done. The boy was bawling at this point and was probably terrified by the whole experience. The boy did something incredibly foolish and stupid and probably should have known better, but he was young. The father not paying attention to his young son at the rifle range was the real idiotic act. Unfortunately I see that WAY to often.
One day I was shooting on the "all gun" range and a man and his young son show up. The boy is probably around the ages of 7 to 8. The father sets up in one of the lanes next to the RO's shack. The boy gets bored and wanders off. A few minutes later I catch movement out of the corner of my eye from down range to my right. This young man apparently has climbed in between the berm and the RO's shack and couldn't get back out. He has a terrified look on his face and is leaning out from the side of the building waving his arms trying to get his dad to stop shooting. His dad's looking through his scope down range and doesn't notice and the range officers are too busy gabbing with each other to notice. I immediately called a cease-fire and pointed him out to the RO's who were shocked to see this young man peering out from the side of the shack.
The father was furious and drug his boy back behind the firing line and made him sit on the ground until he was done. The boy was bawling at this point and was probably terrified by the whole experience. The boy did something incredibly foolish and stupid and probably should have known better, but he was young. The father not paying attention to his young son at the rifle range was the real idiotic act. Unfortunately I see that WAY to often.
ol' scratch
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I had just finished shooting at a range and gun shop when I accidently dropped a magazine on the floor. I turned around to pick it up and came face to face with someone sitting behind me with a Glock. He hit the slide release on a loaded mag POINTED RIGHT AT MY HEAD. I decided to call it a day. I didn't even pick up my brass. I quickly packed up and was going to walk out. Idiot walked up to the line, held the pistol sideways (Gangster style) and fired it. The spent casing came back and smacked him in the head. It would have been funny if I hadn't been so scary. As I was walking out, an employee of the shop was walking back to relieve him of his range time.
Posted on another thread, but it fits better here.
Posted on another thread, but it fits better here.
ol' scratch
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Stupid thing I have done.
I was shooting some reloads. I was sharing the range with two other people shooting black powder. I had forgotten my cleaning rod (I will get to that in a minute). I was shooting at a 100 yards using paper targets and my binoculars. I squeezed off the round and it seemed like a squib. I grabbed my binoculars to look down range. I couldn't see if I had actually hit the target because of poor light and the use of paper targets. I forgot my cleaning rod, so I cleared the rifle (a Garand) and openned the chamber. Stupid me, I look down the MUZZLE end of the rifle to see if I have a squib. I just couldn't see, so I tried to position the rifle to catch more light. About this time, the stupid bell in my head went off. I looked at the guy next to me and he asked with a big smile on his face, "Did you find what you are looking for?" He and his son started laughing, and so did I. I explained the situation and the fact that you can't check a Garand from the chamber. I told him I left my cleaning rod at the house. I did admit it was stupid. It must have looked like that pic of Al Gore checking the muzzle of his M-16. DUMB.:banghead: I have since rigged up a mirror to check the barrel in the event I might have a squib. Both guys were understanding after I explained the situation. He even said he would rather I check the rifle than have the d**n thing hand granade and shower he and his son with parts.
I was shooting some reloads. I was sharing the range with two other people shooting black powder. I had forgotten my cleaning rod (I will get to that in a minute). I was shooting at a 100 yards using paper targets and my binoculars. I squeezed off the round and it seemed like a squib. I grabbed my binoculars to look down range. I couldn't see if I had actually hit the target because of poor light and the use of paper targets. I forgot my cleaning rod, so I cleared the rifle (a Garand) and openned the chamber. Stupid me, I look down the MUZZLE end of the rifle to see if I have a squib. I just couldn't see, so I tried to position the rifle to catch more light. About this time, the stupid bell in my head went off. I looked at the guy next to me and he asked with a big smile on his face, "Did you find what you are looking for?" He and his son started laughing, and so did I. I explained the situation and the fact that you can't check a Garand from the chamber. I told him I left my cleaning rod at the house. I did admit it was stupid. It must have looked like that pic of Al Gore checking the muzzle of his M-16. DUMB.:banghead: I have since rigged up a mirror to check the barrel in the event I might have a squib. Both guys were understanding after I explained the situation. He even said he would rather I check the rifle than have the d**n thing hand granade and shower he and his son with parts.
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This takes the cake, *** is an 8 year old doing shooting a micro Uzi or whatever that model is called in the first place?
A couple of my friends coworkers were pretty close to this when the kid shot himself. One still has nightmares about it, he said their was blood everywhere, and the kid was screaming for a bit.
This takes the cake, *** is an 8 year old doing shooting a micro Uzi or whatever that model is called in the first place?
A couple of my friends coworkers were pretty close to this when the kid shot himself. One still has nightmares about it, he said their was blood everywhere, and the kid was screaming for a bit.
Maverick223
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Sad, sad story. I wouldn't have any problems with him shooting it...IF he was capable of doing so safely. Single load until the individual (regardless of age) can, especially if FA.
bushmaster1313
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I once shot my finger with the staple gun when stapling the target to the corrugated cardboard.
Boy did I feel stupid.
Boy did I feel stupid.
five.five-six
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obviously I didn't see this, but it turns my stomach every time I recall this story :cry:
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/westfield_police_release_name.html
http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2008/10/westfield_police_release_name.html
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If the kid wanted to shoot the Uzi his dad should have held it with him and they should have only loaded one round in the chamber.
An 8 year old kid should be shooting a single shot .22LR, not a Micro Uzi with a full clip. The dad and the RO failed that kid by handing him that gun. Its no different than throwing a 16 year old with a fresh license the keys to a ZR1 or a Dodge Viper.
I don't know if this is true or not, but my friends coworker got to shoot the Uzi before the kid and he said it was hard as hell to hold. I guess it was covered in oil from them trying to keep the action wet or something. He complained about it.
An 8 year old kid should be shooting a single shot .22LR, not a Micro Uzi with a full clip. The dad and the RO failed that kid by handing him that gun. Its no different than throwing a 16 year old with a fresh license the keys to a ZR1 or a Dodge Viper.
I don't know if this is true or not, but my friends coworker got to shoot the Uzi before the kid and he said it was hard as hell to hold. I guess it was covered in oil from them trying to keep the action wet or something. He complained about it.
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