Fast TP9SF vs PPQ review

[wild cat mccane]

Hello,

Real quick review. I ordered a TP9SF in desert tan and it come in. I had to admit, the difference between the PPQ was slight...so I sold the PPQ!!!

Before hitting the range, I studied the TP9SF and the coating. I just can't get past it. Where the sights have been pushed on at the factory, the cerakote is either chipping or the metal was exposed with only a faint level of coating left. Very small, but there. On the inside, the ejection port area of the slide was showing slight wear. Finally, each slide rack was producing a tan oil substance on the top barrel hood--factory oil with cerakote.

Welp. I sold the TP9SF and just repurchased the PPQ M1 from gunbuyer for 500.

Here it is folks. The TP9SF is larger overall. It feels thinner in the grip, but much wider up top. Both triggers are light years in advancement to others, but the TP9 is slightly heavier.

If you are price conscious, the TP9SF will work well for you. I would say for the money it is great. However, for 50 more you get into SR9/M&P/P-09 territory. If you can't do 50, the TP9SF is it. If you can...maybe not?

If the pride of a totally refined gun is on your list, the PPQ is $150 dollars more and well worth it in refinement...if you care for it. I do. The TP9SF quality was just short enough to nag me into selling it.

I sold both for equal loss (almost none) as a percent and total dollar.

I won't resell this coming PPQ and I doubt I will pick up the TP9SFX...probably...

 

[railroader]

I have the all black TP9SF and I'm still on the fence with it. I don't have a PPQ to compare to but I have a Walther PPX. Both have very good triggers but the finish is definitely nicer on the Walther. I have found that on the TP9SF that I can start pulling the trigger and not completely have the trigger safety depressed. This only happens when my finger isn't pushing straight back and I'm pushing off to the side of the trigger. This makes for a bump in the trigger pull.

I replaced the front sight with a dawson fiber optic so I will see how that goes. Overall for $350 delivered the Canik is a good gun.

 

[stchman]

I have the PPQ M2 5" and the TP9SA, both in black. I also own a TP9v2.

I have read that the tan versions of the Canik pistols have finish issues. I have not found the black ones to have any finish issues at all.

I do think the PPQ M2 has a little better trigger, but the TP9SA has a really good one too.

The added bonus is that the TP9SA mags work in the PPQ M2 very well, they just stick out a bit as the mags are longer. For some reason, the PPQ M2 mags won't fit in the TP9SA.

 

[wild cat mccane]

I also had trigger safety issues on the TP9SF while dry firing.

Not a big deal as it was going to be a range gun, but defiantly not something I've experienced on the PPQ.

 

[Chuck R.]

I got a chance to handle one (tan) a few nights ago in a class that a co-worker just bought. I also own a couple PPQs, M&P Pro's and a VP9.

It came a cross pretty favorably in my mind. Internally it's a lift off the Walther. This class has 3 range days, and a couple classroom sessions for about 1500 rds so I'll get to see how it holds up to 5-600 rd days.

Chuck

 

[hemiram]

MY TP9V2 has been pretty much perfect. It's a black one, I hate FDE or any other tan on a gun, or a car, etc. No chips or any other issues. It's eating everything I've put in it, no matter who made it or when it was made. I found some 35 year old ammo in one of my drawers that was a tad green, but it shot fine. About the only nitpick complaint I can come up with on the TP9XX guns is that it's a striker gun, and that just my personal preference.

 

[tercel89]

I would get the TP9SF if they would sell spare parts. I cant find any parts anywhere. I called Century and they said no parts are available. SO that is why I am not buying it right now .

 

[MAKster]

So the Caniks really aren't as good as the Walthers they copy. Thanks for a realistic assessment. The Caniks seem to be good for the price but the hype is getting out of control.

 

[wild cat mccane]

For the trigger feel, quality of plastic, quality of finish...

absolutely not. The PPQ is worth the 150 bucks more in my eyes. Defiantly.

Is it a good gun compared to other comparably priced items? Perhaps.

The very thin trigger dingus defiantly leads to a locked trigger if you don't push it right.

 

[Dan-O]

I defiantly don't want the Canik now......unless they defiantly come out with a .45 acp version.

 

[sigarms228]

I would get the TP9SF if they would sell spare parts. I cant find any parts anywhere. I called Century and they said no parts are available. SO that is why I am not buying it right now .

Wonderful LOL. Suddenly so many of the "bargain" pistols don't seem to be such a bargain when availability of parts is non existent. I can't imagine warranty service to be much better. I imagine that they are banking on the average shooter who puts a couple hundred rounds a year, if that, through a pistol of their's.

Still I hope they get their parts business in place but risky to be an early adopter particularly for someone that owns only a single pistol.

 

[wild cat mccane]

I generally don't latch onto the parts idea. However, in 3 years we've seen 3 models with the original TP9 out of sale...availability might actually be an issue 10 years from now?

 

[wild cat mccane]

Thanks Dan-O. Went back with a reread. That was annoying Reminds me of... http://theoatmeal.com/comics/literally

 

[ljnowell]

So someone who rails against the tp9 series pistols promised a review, then bought and sold it before taking pictures, shooting for groups, measuring trigger pulls, etc?

Well I'm shocked I tell you, just plain shocked!


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[Chuck R.]

OK, my co-worker shot his TP9SF in the class yesterday for about 450 or so rounds.

Mechanically no issues, 100% reliable. Initially he was having some accuracy problems going from his PPQ to the TP, but that smoothed out as he got used to it. Prior to the class, he had put a couple 100 rounds through it. He did bobble a couple reloads as he was trying to drop the mag using the PPQ release (M1) that just wasn't there.

The FDE finish however did show wear after drawing form a holster a 100+ times. His comments, other than the finish, were favorable. Less muzzle flip than the 4" PPQ, and the trigger is wearing in as he gets used to it.

Chuck

 

[wild cat mccane]

Thanks ljnowell for keeping me honest and being friendly about it.

Here is my for sale picture:

Something many haven't noted, the TP9SF and TP9SA triggers are physically different. The change isn't JUST the decocker being removed. I never had the dingus hang up on the TP9SA, but did have it lock the trigger with the TP9SF with only a little bit of dry firing.

 

[Dan-O]

In all seriousness though, I own caniks.....and love em. But a .45 ppq clone from canik would be heavenly.

 

[Kiln]

I just picked up another one. For the price and overall quality they're tough to beat. The finish is probably the only negative I've found.

 

[railroader]

I am also seeing a problem with parts replacement with my canik. I just called century arms about replacement recoil springs. I was told they do not sell parts including recoil springs. Their parts are only for warranty work. That would be a warranty issue if you needed a replacement spring. To me that is unacceptable. Recoil springs wear out and need replaced. Since the warranty is only for the original buyer buying second hand could be a major problem.

 

[sigarms228]

I just called century arms about replacement recoil springs. I was told they do not sell parts including recoil springs. Their parts are only for warranty work. That would be a warranty issue if you needed a replacement spring.

Wow, that is really bad. You are right about recoil springs being a necessary common maintenance part for anyone other than occasional shooters which may be their target market.

I hope they get some available for you soon railroader.

 

[Fishbed77]

So the Caniks really aren't as good as the Walthers they copy.

That really shouldn't surprise anyone.

I defiantly don't want the Canik now......unless they defiantly come out with a .45 acp version.

Walther makes a .45ACP PPQ now.