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Went rabbit hunting with several guys once. They were uncasing some very nice semi's and an O/U that cost as much as my car.

I slid my Savage mod. 24 ( .22/410 ) out and two snarky remarks just HAD to be said. I've been hunting with that gun since I was 10 years old...1960. So I let 'em talk and I just listened. I was the only one that took home a rabbit that day. :neener:

So I say buy what you want and shoot what you want...who cares.

Mark
 
I shoot mostly milsurps at a club where most of the members shoot high dollar guns and only once was there a nasty comment from the BR fellows. Too bad for him. Snobs must spend an awful amount of time in a negative state of mind.
 
If they work well and do what I need them to, it's not worth putting stock in what any snob says.

Besides, a lot of sneering folks rely on the equipment instead of skill, and it's fun to outshoot AR snobs with an AK, or someone with "what the Army sniper corps uses" with a Mosin Nagant.
 
The hi-point 9mm carbines actually seem to get pretty good reviews for what they are. No reason to be ashamed of that.
 
Buy what you like and screw 'em. My shooting buddy has an RIA 1911 that he has shot thousands of rounds through without a problem. He even fires Nam era ammo through it and some awful looking lead stuff he got somewhere. I think the thing would shoot nuts and bolts.
I have a Charter Arms UC Lite .38 that everybody laughed about. Even Gun Tests did not like it. Shoots every time and is accurate with reasonable recoil. True, my usual carry pistols are Brownings and Colts, but I often drop the UC Lite in my pocket for a quick trip out and have no fear that it will not function.
 
Never have come across much in the way of gun snobbery, at least not with the folks I have gone shooting and hunting with. Most of us couldn't afford really expensive guns anyways so we made do with whatever we had at the time. Doesn't seem to matter all that much as the only important things are that the gun goes bang every time you pull the trigger and you can hit whatever target there is that you're aiming at.
 
Hi-Points are great guns. I have 2 of the carbines and 3 of the pistols. They all work great and go bang every time. Yes they are heavy but I do not care. Are they ugly, I do not think so. I like the looks of the Hi-Points more than say a Glock. I am probably in the minority but I could care less. When others start buying me guns then they can chose them for me, but until then they can stay quiet.
 
Apart from falling all the way down the ugly tree and hitting every branch along the way...And lacking some of the refinements of its more expensive counterparts, I don't see any issues with them. It is a gun that works, backed with a lifetime warranty to the gun not the user. I do not own one but wouldn't fault anyone who does.
 
My name is Hamp, and I'm a shame-aholic....

My friends and I shame each other ALL the time. Of course, it's in fun, and I avoid it with people I don't know well. A lot of times, what starts as a shaming session turns into an interesting debate of pro's and con's. We've talked each other into and out of a lot of purchases in the process.
 
I own four Hi Point pistols and two of their carbines. The carbines were purchased NIB and the pistols were all pawn shop guns under $100.

Every one of these guns is dependable enough to stake your life on. Every one. My 9mm carbine sits beside my bed at night with an attached light. It has NEVER failed to fire. The pistols, as everyone knows, are very heavy and have limited capacity for the size. It seems like the 45 weighs about 5 pounds! They are all completely dependable and generally ride in the glove of the farm vehicles.

I have had a few people scoff at them and then shoot them, especially the C9, only to find that they are very smooth shooting guns with darned decent triggers. I doubt they make it into many competitions but I don't shoot competitions.
 
Hardtarget said:
Went rabbit hunting with several guys once. They were uncasing some very nice semi's and an O/U that cost as much as my car.

I slid my Savage mod. 24 ( .22/410 ) out and two snarky remarks just HAD to be said. I've been hunting with that gun since I was 10 years old...1960. So I let 'em talk and I just listened. I was the only one that took home a rabbit that day. :neener:

So I say buy what you want and shoot what you want...who cares.

Mark
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I still use my Savage M24C campers companion, with most of the varnish peeled off due to rain. It's been out in the nasty weather and thick brush far more than any of my "better" guns! Now my oldest son is discovering how flexible it is, and is looking for a similar version.
 
The most unreliable gun I've owned, a Springfield EMP was also the most expensive. I own guns that cost 1/3 as much that have never malfunctioned. I'm not too concerned with the opinions of people who get their self worth from material things they own.
 
I used to get shamed when deer hunting with an M39 Nagant. Sorry it was all I could afford when I first got married. Didn't laugh when I shot it.
 
There is no reason to be ashamed of a gun that is reasonably accurate and highly reliable. That is more important than looks or price line.

I have seen too many people buy high dollar big name guns, fail to maintain them or learn how to tune them or practice with them, and are snobbish about owning guns that inaccurate and unreliable (often because they dont practice or maintain them) just because of the name or the dollar price.

The local gun dealer said his advice to a person with only $400 to spend was not a new namebrand rifle + 1 box of 20 hunting rounds, but a surplus Mosin, a spam can of decent surplus ammo and 1 box of 20 hunting rounds and get out there and practice, practice, practice. You cannot buy experience or skill.


@Hardtarget: When I was kid, Savage 24 .22/.410 was the high dollar gun and I envied the guy who owned one.
 
I sometimes think their are many people that think only rich, snobby, @holes can own Sigs. I've heard more comments than I can remember to that affect, but I don't remember mainly because I really don't care.

It's my money so I'll buy what I want and I'll do it without considering what anyone else thinks about it, it's just silly to care what other people have, want, like, desire, buy, ect, ect.....
 
"Apart from falling all the way down the ugly tree ..."

Theres an advantage to ugly utilitarian looks. If I owned a HiPoint pistol caliber carbine, it would probably get more range and field time than my AutoOrdnance TM1 which is just too pretty to risk scratches and dings.

I hate to say this but I have a new-in-the-box gift Marlin 60 that stays home, while one of my pawnshop orphans ($50 Marlin 60 and $53 Nylon 66, salvaged, repaired, dressed MadMax style) usually go with me to the mountains.
 
Theres an advantage to ugly utilitarian looks. If I owned a HiPoint pistol caliber carbine, it would probably get more range and field time than my AutoOrdnance TM1 which is just too pretty to risk scratches and dings.
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This is why my BAR rarely gets to the deer camp. It is just too pretty to risk scratching.
 
I buy what I want. I care little what other might think. I did buy 1 Hi-point .45 cause the kid needed money. I got it to shoot reliably and go bang every time I pulled the trigger. If I every need it and it doesn't go bang I can always use it as a club.
 
The local gun dealer said his advice to a person with only $400 to spend was not a new namebrand rifle + 1 box of 20 hunting rounds, but a surplus Mosin, a spam can of decent surplus ammo and 1 box of 20 hunting rounds and get out there and practice, practice, practice. You cannot buy experience or skill.
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There is something to be said for this. I shot that M39 so much that I am still very good with it. I know all it quirks. More than some with their fancy rifles. But while I was young in 1986 when I got the Mosin, now I am old. My income has kept pace with my age. I have plenty of fancy rifles to be proud of. The Mosin will never leave my possession until I leave this earth. I still shoot it often.
 
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There is something to be said for this. I shot that M39 so much that I am still very good with it. I know all it quirks. More than some with their fancy rifles. But while I was young in 1986 when I got the Mosin, now I am old. My income has kept pace with my age. I have plenty of fancy rifles to be proud of. The Mosin will never leave my possession until I leave this earth. I still shoot it often.
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When you say M39 are you reffering to a Finn rework?
 
I have owned several of their carbines in 9mm and 40 S&W. They were all reliable and accurate. I really don't care what others think of how I spend my money.

This was offhand at 30 yards. I quite literally took the new carbine (9 mm in this case) out of the box, checked to make sure there was no oil in the bore, loaded a mag with a variety of different ammo and cut loose. I also own two AR's but I appreciate guns that go "boom," no matter what their cost.

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I bought the hi point 9mm carbine a few years back. It was when I first started reloading and wanted something "cheap" to test my reloads in.

Today, it is one of my favorite carbines. It is reliable, accurate and a whole lot of fun to shoot. The one time I did have an issue with it, hi point paid for shipping, fixed the problem and sent me a spare mag to boot.

I have people come up to me all of the time when I have it at the range and ask what that cool looking rifle is. I can see the automatic eye roll when they hear "hi point". Then I can see them pondering the 1/2 inch groups on my targets vs the name high point as they walk away.
 
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