Gifting from Mass to NH

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I've searched and read through Mass and NH law regarding this and even some internet searches but cannot come up with an answer. So I'm asking for help here.

Can an adult family member in Massachusetts 'gift" a long arm (specifically a pre-ban model) to an adult family member in NH with a simple bill of sale or does a paper trail involving an FFL need to be involved?
 
Any transfer across state lines that doesn't involve a legal bequest (that means you are dead and wrote it in your will) must go through an FFL.

If it is a long-arm, you can do the transfer at an FFL in either state. If it is a handgun, you must do the transfer at a dealer in the purchaser's state.
 
So when one's father passes away in another state, and mom says- go ahead boys split up your dad's guns- the son(s) living in a different state(s) than dad, has to go through an FFL??? Or can you just load them in the car and take them home? According to the law.
 
So when one's father passes away in another state, and mom says- go ahead boys split up your dad's guns- the son(s) living in a different state(s) than dad, has to go through an FFL??? Or can you just load them in the car and take them home? According to the law.

IF a gun was listed in the will as going to a specific heir, then yes, the heir can drive to the home, retrieve that gun and take it home with him/her.

In the case you suggest, absent a specific listing in the will, the property would most likely all revert to the widow's ownership either through a general property clause of the deceased's will, or through intestate succession. In that case, her saying "go ahead and take them" would be a gift to her son(s), not a bequest, and would need to go through an FFL just like any other gift or purchase that crosses state lines.

If the owner dies and his/her direct heir lives in another state, then the guns can pass to that heir through intestate succession as well -- but not if there is some other party involved.
 
Sam1911 said:
IF a gun was listed in the will as going to a specific heir, then yes, the heir can drive to the home,...
Let me expand on that a bit.

Receiving something by bequest, or by intestate succession, involves a formal legal process.

[1] When there's a written will, the will names someone to be the executor (i. e., the personal representative of the decedent to wind up the estate).

[2] While the will may designate an executor, that person is not the executor unless and until the will is admitted to probate in the proper court and the court issues Letters Testamentary recognizing that person as executor.

[3] The executor once qualified then proceeds to account for the assets of the estate. He or she then pays debts and taxes of the decedent under court supervision.

[4] The executor then handles, again under court supervision, distribution of the assets of the estate in accordance with the terms of the written will.

If the formalities involved in the distribution of the decedent's property under a will haven't been followed, it's not clear that just being handed a gun identified in a will as going to you is acquiring a gun by bequest for the purposes of federal law (18 USC 922(a)(3) and 18 USC 922(a)(5)).

[1] Intestate succession is not some informal dividing up of the decedent's property amongst the relatives. It's a highly formalized procedure.

[2] First, someone has to go to the proper court and apply to be named the administrator (i. e., the personal representative of the decedent to wind up the estate) of the decedent's estate.

[3] Once the court has issued an order designating someone as the administrator, that person proceeds to account for the assets of the estate. He or she then uses those assets to pay any remaining debts of the decedent and any taxes due. This is all done under the supervision of the court.

[4] After the debts and taxes are paid, the administrator, under court supervision, will distribute any remaining assets to those relatives entitled under the applicable statutes to a share of the estate. Only those relatives specifically identified in the applicable statutes are entitled to a share of the decedent's property, and only in the proportion set out in the applicable statutes.

It's true that often, if there's not a lot of property involved, the relatives don't bother with the formalities and just divide everything up. That usually works out as long as no one complains. But it might not satisfy federal law if a gun is involved, and therefore using an FFL for transfer would be prudent.

Cranky CJ said:
So when one's father passes away in another state, and mom says- go ahead boys split up your dad's guns- the son(s) living in a different state(s) than dad, has to go through an FFL??? Or can you just load them in the car and take them home? According to the law.
So no, you'll probably need to do a transfer through an FFL (and one in the recipient's State of residence in the case of a handgun)>
 
If it is a long-arm, you can do the transfer at an FFL in either state.
Of course, being that we're talking about Massachusetts, it would probably be best to take them to an FFL in New Hampshire for the transfer.
 
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