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How do you handle it when you are confronted by the "you guys are just a bunch of insecure gun nuts that think violence is the answer" crowd? It is amazing how strong the opinions of some of these "enlightened" people are. Most seem to just regurgitate the same old liberal brainwashing that they've heard and write you off as a Neanderthal, with no valid points. Especially while I was in college, I found it was a waste of time to "discuss" the topic. Now into my working life, it isn't as much of an issue, but still wonder, how did responsible gun owners get to be labeled the "nuts" of society?

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Hi Guido,

Like most things it is just a few that get a label coined. Look at the morons who run around in full cammo, with the 'I would rather be killing commies'
t-shirts. These fine examples get us all labeled nuts.
People don't look at the 99% of the responsible gun owners. We just blend in. The wacko's stand out.

Kevin
 
Guido said:
How do you handle it when you are confronted by the "you guys are just a bunch of insecure gun nuts that think violence is the answer" crowd? It is amazing how strong the opinions of some of these "enlightened" people are. Most seem to just regurgitate the same old liberal brainwashing that they've heard and write you off as a Neanderthal, with no valid points. Especially while I was in college, I found it was a waste of time to "discuss" the topic. Now into my working life, it isn't as much of an issue, but still wonder, how did responsible gun owners get to be labeled the "nuts" of society?

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I like to bring up the facts, such as

"Oh yeah... violence NEVER solved anything... except for Naziism, slavery, and a couple World Wars..."

Or i like to quote Heinlein:

DIZZY: My mother always says that violence never solves anything.

RASCZAK: Really? I wonder what the city fathers of Hiroshima would have to say about that. You.

CARMEN: They probably wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.

RASCZAK: Correct. Naked force has settled more issues in history than any other factor. The contrary opinion 'violence never solves anything' is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always pay... They pay with their lives and their freedom.
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I always found it funny that the girl who said "violence never solves anything" was named Dizzy :)

AND
Anyone who clings to the historically untrue — and thoroughly immoral — doctrine that "violence never solves anything" I would advise to conjure up the ghosts of Napoleon Bonaparte and of the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the Dodo, the Great Auk, and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and freedoms.
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Both from Starship Troopers

Or, I like to take the offensive and use a little Freud on them:

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."
Sigmund Freud, "General Introduction to Psychoanalysis".
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Just a few of my favorite tactics... Hope that helps! :)
 
Use of the term "gun nut" is just one of the canned soundbytes that the antis, with their collective Borg mentality, have taught to use when referring to gun owners.
 
Yup... I hate to think what a person would think of gunowners if their first experience was going to a gun show and running into the Nazi "memorabilia" and The Turner Diaries table :barf:

ETA: Don't argue with them, just tell them why you like guns. People like that need to hear stories not logic.
 
DIZZY: My mother always says that violence never solves anything.

RASCZAK: Really? I wonder what the city fathers of Hiroshima would have to say about that. You.

CARMEN: They probably wouldn't say anything. Hiroshima was destroyed.

RASCZAK: Correct. Naked force has settled more issues in history than any other factor. The contrary opinion 'violence never solves anything' is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that always pay... They pay with their lives and their freedom.
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And the ironic part is that Michael Ironside, the guy that played the part of Rasczak in the movie (and is always a gun-toting tough guy in every movie he's in) is an extreme pacifist.
 
My response is that I have seen police work. From police work, I know that for every police officer that comes in contact with an armed dangerous person, there are many times that number of average people that have to deal with the same armed and dangerous criminal nitwit. Police are at the end of the chain of mayhem for the criminal. It is very seldom that a criminal gets caught on the occasion of his first crime. In fact, criminals often commit several, even dozens of crimes of violence before running afoul of the law. With some criminals having several dozen crimes on his record, it is my opinion that one criminal often accounts for hundreds of crimes.
Then the courts usually slap him on the wrist and let him go.
Now we arm cops to deal with these people. Police are taught that they should only shoot to defend life or limb of themselves or others. Therefore firearms are only a defensive weapon. Shouldn't the average citizen have the same right to self protection?
 
The original quote from "Starship Troopers" was not Hiroshima, but Carthage. Not many people would remember that one, though....

I don't tell the antis anything - the only time I carry open is in uniform, and nobody gives me grief then.
 
How do you handle it when you are confronted by the "you guys are just a bunch of insecure gun nuts that think violence is the answer" crowd?
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Kittens and puppies.

When I'm confronted like that I scatter kittens and puppies on the ground in my wake, like an octopus inking as it escapes.

I only stop sprinting when I can't hear the "awwwww"s.

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When I'm confronted like that I scatter kittens and puppies on the ground in my wake, like an octopus inking as it escapes.

I only stop sprinting when I can't hear the "awwwww"s.
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LOL! :D
 
Life is a bowl of Granola, what ain't fruits and nuts is flakes... so what does that make you?

That usually makes them crack a smile, and it's less legal hassles than braining them with the jawbone of an ass.
 
Start singing-
"If you're going to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you're going to San Francisco
You're gonna meet some gentle people there

For those who come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there
In the streets of San Francisco
Gentle people with flowers in their hair

All across the nation such a strange vibration
People in motion
There's a whole generation with a new explanation
People in motion people in motion

For those who come to San Francisco
Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
If you come to San Francisco
Summertime will be a love-in there"

Then just walk away.
 
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Kittens and puppies.

When I'm confronted like that I scatter kittens and puppies on the ground in my wake, like an octopus inking as it escapes.

I only stop sprinting when I can't hear the "awwwww"s.

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Lol, thats fantastic! :p

When people call me a gun nut (Which I am.) I usually just ignore it. Getting into a debate isn't going to solve much. Its enough for me to know that the shotgun under my bed makes it less likely that someone will break into their house. We've already won the debate, they just havent realized it yet. :D
 
If they call you a nut, answer:
Coming from YOU I take that as a compliment.

Some people, if they agree with me, I begin
to wonder if something's wrong with me. If
they disagree with me, knowing them, I feel
I am in the right.
 
i remember an old movie

where the old sweedish man is call a nut. he replys vell tank gawd for de nuts, without them any machine would be yest a pile of yunk! the nuts hold everyting togather.

forgive my poor sweedish accent!:D
 
Respond in a very calm and erudite way, and explain that "negatively stereotyping people whom you've never met, simply because they disagree with you on one political issue is rather irrational, don't you think?"
 
Ironically, when someone tells a gun owner that violence never solved nothing, 99.999999% of the time that person will resort to (at least threatening) violence quicker to resolve the very same argument that ensues from their statement. These people of course should not carry guns, because they haven't learned the essence of the very mantra they espouse: Violence (or the direct threat therof) can indeed solve situations, but never (in the civil context anyway) offensively. Unfortunately, somewhere down the line in history, the open wearing and carry of arms began to conotate immediate offensive threat in the minds of some, and the herd mentality kicked in; " guns BAAA-BAAAD!" and the vast majority began to believe that inanimate objects would create mayhem entirely of their own accord.:rolleyes:
 
I was accused of being a "gun nut" once... I replied "Yep - I'm a flaked almond!" My accuser was so dumbfounded by my reply that she left precipitously, avoiding eye contact.

:evil: :D
 
I just tell them to turn on the news and watch it for 15 seconds.
I would rather myself to live through a confrontation rather than a rapist/murderer.:)
 
Hey Entropy

You are on the button about the antis being quick to threaten. Of course that only applies when the participant in the discussion is smaller. That sometimes gets them surprised.
 
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