Newbie here- HELLO all-I hope someone can help. My H&R 923 2 1/2",(chrome 922), ser. R 1955, has been having light strikes or FTFs. I have tried various ammo with an average of 25-35% FTF. If I use cheap bulk Blazer 40 gr. there are NO FTFs. The cylinder has been cleaned to the point that the rounds will fall out if held upside down. I pulled the mainspring and it appears to be near new in strength. I almost could not reinstall it because of the good tension. The firing pin looks great with no burrs or imperfections. There is NOTHING else I can think of to improve the FTFs. Is the quality of today's ammo THAT bad? Why does it shoot cheap Blazers at 100% and NO other? By the way, there are strike marks on ALL FTF rounds. I did go to Numrich to locate a firing pin but none looked as if it would work. Nothing even came close. It appears as if the firing pin is intregal to the hammer on this series. ANY help will be GREATLY appreciated.
H&R 923 Problem
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A possibility, if the gun has been dry fired a lot or even just shot a lot the firing pin could be peaned back enough to prevent reliable ignition. It may not be observable to the eye but with the right tools, caliber or micrometer, a change can be detected. I have a Browning Buckmark that I have shot a lot for both plinking and with a red dot for competition. It began to have intermittent FTF and the gunsmith found the firing pin had shortened enough to cause the problem. He wa able to stretch the pin back out enough to fix the problem without having to order a new firing pin. On an old out of production gun parts may be impossible to find but a gunsmith could make a new firing pin or maybe fix an existing one like mine was fixed.
Good advice from the Fuffster.
I have a 922 which is similar. Are the light strikes happening in single action(SA) or double action(DA)? SA gives a harder strike because the hammer is further back when the trigger is pulled. This will help determine if the spring is too week for the shorter DA strike. I had a gun that would miss fire only in DA mode, but not in SA. I replaced the spring and it fixed the problem withe the DA strikes.
I have a 922 which is similar. Are the light strikes happening in single action(SA) or double action(DA)? SA gives a harder strike because the hammer is further back when the trigger is pulled. This will help determine if the spring is too week for the shorter DA strike. I had a gun that would miss fire only in DA mode, but not in SA. I replaced the spring and it fixed the problem withe the DA strikes.
The FTFs occur about the same in DA or SA. When I took the spring out it was so stiff I almost didn't get it back in. This is why I think the spring is OK. If it was any stiffer I would not be able to install it. The hammer lands very hard in DA or SA. When talking with Numrich's person on the phone and looking at their exploded view and they at a "different" one there seemed to be no match to my firing pin by description, not even close. This is why I wonder if the firing pin was integral to the hammer in 1955. It is close to a flat triangle about an inch long with the extreme tip nipped off.
OK.... then it could possible be something with the firing pin or endshake
FYI.....On my 922 there is a small hole at the end of the spring rod. If you cock the hammer(so spring is compressed) and then insert a small finishing nail or something that will fit in the hole, you should be able to release the hammer and remove the spring assembly with ease (similar to the Ruger). You can't see it in this picture, but the hole is right at the end of the spring rod.
I don't have a 922, just a 999 but my FTF were due to the broken plastic guide rod saddle. Based on this schematic from Numrich it looks like some 922s may have come with the plastic saddle. I had ~%50 FTF when this was broken.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Schemat...ngtonAndRichardson_622_schem.jpg&name=922+(*)
It's part 27A
Feel free to ignore me if you have already verified this
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Schemat...ngtonAndRichardson_622_schem.jpg&name=922+(*)
It's part 27A
Feel free to ignore me if you have already verified this
Thanks for the response. I did check that piece when I was considering getting a new spring from them, which they do stock. Mine is metal. I guess in 1955 all parts but the grips were still being made in metal. I was considering buying the saddle and rod as well but they are out of stock. I am still toying with the idea of a new spring but I am 80% sure that this one was replaced somewhere down the line. They do need to know if that saddle is metal or plastic for the correct spring.
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