Handgun cartridge carbines: Whaddya got and why?

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Probably a frequent repeat topic, but I'm relatively new so bear with me.

There was considerable discussion about revolver cartridge leverguns on another recent post, which prompted me to consider the lower-power end of my own longarm arsenal. I would be interested to see longarms owned by others that are chambered for revolver and pistol cartridges, in any type of action but excluding rimfires, and to learn what uses they have been put to.

Speaking for myself, I currently have four carbines that fit into this category. The only one of my group that was purchased with personal defense in mind was the Ruger PC9. The remainder are, first and foremost, fun plinkers which could serve as small or medium game hunting carbines. My NEF HandiRifle it actually fitted with two barrels that would qualify, in 357 Maximum and .38 Super. The Maximum barrel is just a factory Magnum barrel rechambered and then refinished by Armoloy, but the .38 Super barrel started life in .22 Hornet. I sent it to the late Dick Nickel for shortening to 17", reboring and rechambering. The original barrel markings have been removed and new ones re-engraved, and then the entire barrel Parkerized. The original Hornet ejector was replaced with a .223 ejector, which provides an interesting degree of flexibility. The barrel will chamber .38 ACP, .38 Super, 9mm Largo -- and in a pinch, 9x19 Parabellum. The shorter cartridge has to be placed into the chamber in a rather fiddly manner so that it headspaces on the ejector, but not only does it work in an emergency, it even groups! The barrel is fitted with a NoDak Spud rear ghost ring sight.

The strange little Martini carbine (nicknamed Marteenie) was built on an old military action I purchased from Australia. The date of manufacture was 1876 (right side of the receiver); in 1900 it was converted to .303 (marked on the left side.) I had a local gunsmith rework a surplus rolling block carbine barrel in .44 Magnum to fit this action, manufactured by the Spanish company Star. The rim dimensions of the .44 nicely fit the existing .303 extractor without modification. The buttstock was military surplus, but I had to make a new forestock from a walnut turning blank. The buckhorn rear sight was chosen mainly to cover the rather large factory dovetail on the Star barrel. Somewhat to my surprise, this kluged-together carbine project gun actually works and shoots great! The action ejects empty .44 brass much more positively than it did the longer military cases, and the rifle handles so nimbly that shooters usually end up giggling after a few shots. I had the metalwork Parkerized to make the various components match, and had the stock disk engraved to resemble a .44 Magnum case headstamp.

The Ruger 77/44 is basically factory stock plus a few tweaks. It is such a light rifle that recoil can actually seem rather stiff with heavy bullets.

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I have 2.
A Ruger PC9 like yours and for similar reasons like plinking and/or home defense. An added bonus is that it also takes the same mags as my SR9c.
Other is a Marlin 1894c in .357/38. Since I also have numerous .357 revolvers the commonality of cartridges is a plus too and one of the reasons why I picked it up. Glad I did too since about two years later Marlin sold out to Remington and the quality apparently declined by some degree. The latest reports I`ve read is that the quality of the new ones coming out of the factory has improved.
 
As chicharrones said, nice collection! Your Martini project gun is pretty neat.

I've already shown this one off on THR but it's appropriate to bring it up in this thread too, I suppose.
Henry Big Boy in 357 mag.

Why? The AR I sold to fund its purchase did not bring me much joy. Only frustration. Also, 357 is fairly cheap to reload for yet still potent enough to be versatile.

As for it's use, so far 48 rounds have been spent on a steel plate. It's going to stay at that number until I get all the reloading gear because Crimeny! 357 mag ain't cheap!

So far I'm loving it. Points a lot more naturally for me than did my AR. It's also a lot prettier. I've finally worked the action enough that it's reasonably smooth, but that took a bit.

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Handgun cartridge carbines: Whaddya got . . .?

I have only one, a Beretta CX4 in 9mm.

. . . and why?

Thanks to the magazine in the grip, it's short in length without going full bullpup. It happens to be a takedown gun, whether it's marketed as one or not. It shoots cheap centerfire ammo. I can shoot it at indoor handgun ranges if I want. It can be used as a plinker or a home defense gun. :)

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I have a Macon Armory DI 45ACP upper (AR Style) that runs on Glock mags.

LOVE shooting it. from a low ready, i am putting two rounds on a 10x12 target at 20 yrds in less than a second.

I need to take some pics.

I got it because I wanted one.

I love the idea behind the Thompson, but they are not lefty friendly and are heavy.
 
I have only one, a Beretta CX4 in 9mm.



Thanks to the magazine in the grip, it's short in length without going full bullpup. It happens to be a takedown gun, whether it's marketed as one or not. It shoots cheap centerfire ammo. I can shoot it at indoor handgun ranges if I want. It can be used as a plinker or a home defense gun.

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I watched Paul Harrel shoot one of these in a youtube video. They're pretty cool guns.
 
Several pccs are in my remora.

1.) A Ruger PC 9 like pictured here.
2.) A Browning 1892 in .44MAGNUM made by Miroku circa 1986+-.
3.) A Uberti repro of the Winchester 1873 SRC in .44-40.
4.) A Uberti repro of the Colt Burgess Carbine in .44-40.
5.) A Rossi 92R in .45COLT. (Rossi's copy of the 1892 Winchester).

They're cool guns. The Burgess is a clever design; the receiver is smaller than the 1892 receiver. I doubt the design would work so well with modern Magnum handgun rounds though, and .44-40 is available, though rare and expensive.
Also, the Win. 1873 is a nice gun.
The Browning 1892 is pretty accurate.
 
I dearly love them. One of my favorites is a Colt Lightening pump made in 1896. The cartridge it takes is a 38 Colt Lightening Magazine Rifle Cartridge--or some such nomenclature. It's the same as 38 Winchester Center Fire, which is the same as 38-40. Can you really blame Colt for not being in love with the idea of stamping the name of a competitor on their barrel?

In any event with this rifle, I was able to prove one of my favorite theories. Many believe the most important attributes of the rifleman are practice, knowledge, skill, or perhaps talent. They're wrong.

It's reputation.

So I was slipping up on this big gobbler. Before I got within a hundred yards, he had me spotted and started that sharp putting that let me know he was about to leave the hell out of there.

Nothing for it but to give him a try.

At the shot, he went down but flopped hard and continued to beat himself against the ground without getting anywhere. With a wild turkey or any kind of big bird, there's no blood trail. If he was just stunned, got up, and made it out of sight, my chances of recovering him would be nearly nil.

I took off after him. He hadn't moved from the spot, and I pounced him, put an oversized Buck knife to his throat.

I was so happy. Until I plucked him. Not a mark on his body. He'd make a perfect Thanksgiving table presentation. None of this embarrassing, pulling the cover off an empty platter in front of expectant guests and having to explain how a bird with a brain the size of a walnut outsmarted me again.

Food is food. Many wouldn't ask why, but I had to come up with some kind of explanation. That summer I had practiced hard and often in the fields, and once in a while when I'd look up just at the roll of the hill, I'd see just the heads of a flock of turkeys peering at me with that disdain peculiar to oversized birds. If I picked them up a few times, how many times did I miss it?

So this is what happened: the old gobbler being excitable and after all, bird-brained, seed that it was me, wasn't shrewd enough to calculate how bad a shot I was, and decided at the shot that he had to be dead. Died of shock.

No other theory seemed to fit the information. Or at least none that came to me.

Next day, out hunting again, I swung by the scene of the kill, to reminisce a bit in the glory of the moment, and there it was, right by the mark of the knife where I'd whacked his head off, and left it in the field, the sharp indention of the lead bullet on his long neck.
 
Probably a frequent repeat topic, but I'm relatively new so bear with me.

There was considerable discussion about revolver cartridge leverguns on another recent post, which prompted me to consider the lower-power end of my own longarm arsenal. I would be interested to see longarms owned by others that are chambered for revolver and pistol cartridges, in any type of action but excluding rimfires, and to learn what uses they have been put to.

Speaking for myself, I currently have four carbines that fit into this category. The only one of my group that was purchased with personal defense in mind was the Ruger PC9. The remainder are, first and foremost, fun plinkers which could serve as small or medium game hunting carbines. My NEF HandiRifle it actually fitted with two barrels that would qualify, in 357 Maximum and .38 Super. The Maximum barrel is just a factory Magnum barrel rechambered and then refinished by Armoloy, but the .38 Super barrel started life in .22 Hornet. I sent it to the late Dick Nickel for shortening to 17", reboring and rechambering. The original barrel markings have been removed and new ones re-engraved, and then the entire barrel Parkerized. The original Hornet ejector was replaced with a .223 ejector, which provides an interesting degree of flexibility. The barrel will chamber .38 ACP, .38 Super, 9mm Largo -- and in a pinch, 9x19 Parabellum. The shorter cartridge has to be placed into the chamber in a rather fiddly manner so that it headspaces on the ejector, but not only does it work in an emergency, it even groups! The barrel is fitted with a NoDak Spud rear ghost ring sight.

The strange little Martini carbine (nicknamed Marteenie) was built on an old military action I purchased from Australia. The date of manufacture was 1876 (right side of the receiver); in 1900 it was converted to .303 (marked on the left side.) I had a local gunsmith rework a surplus rolling block carbine barrel in .44 Magnum to fit this action, manufactured by the Spanish company Star. The rim dimensions of the .44 nicely fit the existing .303 extractor without modification. The buttstock was military surplus, but I had to make a new forestock from a walnut turning blank. The buckhorn rear sight was chosen mainly to cover the rather large factory dovetail on the Star barrel. Somewhat to my surprise, this kluged-together carbine project gun actually works and shoots great! The action ejects empty .44 brass much more positively than it did the longer military cases, and the rifle handles so nimbly that shooters usually end up giggling after a few shots. I had the metalwork Parkerized to make the various components match, and had the stock disk engraved to resemble a .44 Magnum case headstamp.

The Ruger 77/44 is basically factory stock plus a few tweaks. It is such a light rifle that recoil can actually seem rather stiff with heavy bullets.

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Love the Martini!

Only one at present is the Taurus CT9-
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Got it because it looked cool and the price was right. Turned out to be a love/hate relationship.

It's reliable with factory mags, but these were only 10 rounders thanks to some weird BATF regs which prohibited Taurus from making or importing hi-caps. Colt and Uzi mags can be made to work if you're handy and have a couple hours to burn- each. :scrutiny:

It's accurate, but the rail dimensions arent quite standard, causing optics and such to be canted unless you massage the mounts with a dremel and hand fit them.:cuss:

The stock is very long and the gun weighs more than most ARs. Recoils more too, thanks to the insanely heavy breechblock slamming around in there.

Its still fun to shoot, but Im building an AR9 anyway.:)
 
A Marlin lever action in 357 mag that I've put a Lyman aperture sight on. May be my favorite long arm. Had a good local smith back in the day do a trigger job and slicked up the action.

Now I want a 327 mag long arm. So far as I know Henry is the only company that makes one and it's out of my price range. I think the 327 is the modern day 32-20 and makes for an excellent pistol/carbine combination.

I also want an AR in 45acp.

I want a lot more guns than I'll ever be able to pay for!
 
The only PCC I have is my AR9 that I built. I decided last year I wanted to try a 9mm carbine simply because I reload 9mm and its by far the cheapest centerfire cartridge to reload for. I reload 9mm by the bucket so it was apealing to have a rifle that I can take shooting with one of my handguns and just use the same ammo from the bucket. I bought a hipoint 995 to see what I thought of it and loved it. I slowly fell out of love with the hi point but I really like the 9mm carbine idea, so I built the AR9 to replace it. Very handy and extremely accurate. An 8" plate at 100 yards is easy standing offhand with the flip sights. With a scope stolen off one of my other ar15's it shot about 3" at 100 yards with 124 FMJ reloads. The other huge bonus with a 9mm carbine is it does not damage the mild steel plates on my pistol range. Huge fun to bang steel with.

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Next thing I want to get is a lever rifle in 45 colt.
 
The only PCC I have is my AR9 that I built. I decided last year I wanted to try a 9mm carbine simply because I reload 9mm and its by far the cheapest centerfire cartridge to reload for. I reload 9mm by the bucket so it was apealing to have a rifle that I can take shooting with one of my handguns and just use the same ammo from the bucket. I bought a hipoint 995 to see what I thought of it and loved it. I slowly fell out of love with the hi point but I really like the 9mm carbine idea, so I built the AR9 to replace it. Very handy and extremely accurate. An 8" plate at 100 yards is easy standing offhand with the flip sights. With a scope stolen off one of my other ar15's it shot about 3" at 100 yards with 124 FMJ reloads. The other huge bonus with a 9mm carbine is it does not damage the mild steel plates on my pistol range. Huge fun to bang steel with.

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Next thing I want to get is a lever rifle in 45 colt.

Imagine an AR in 45 Colt... now that would be truly B.A.
 
I have a Marlin Camp 9, Marlin 357 and 44 mag rifles and of the 3 the 357 is my favorite and most favorite of all the guns I own. I had a Marlin CB 32 mag till just a month ago and I sold it. I just didn't shoot it and it was the heaviest of the 3 Marlins.

Some will say a PPC is not a real rifle that you have to have a bigger round like a 45-70 or a bottle necked cartridge to have a "Real" rifle. I don't think so. Its like saying the only hammer you need is a 12lb sledge. I use a 16oz straight claw far more than a sledge hammer. They are all tools and I get the most use out of the smaller powered guns. I would like to pick up a new Marlin 357 lever so I have one for each of my sons when I go and one of the new Ruger 9mm carbines. Its just a matter of money.:(

I really like the OPs collection.
 
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marlin 357 mag that has been heavily tweaked. It is currently in the mail to the machine shop to be threaded for a suppressor.
also have a cz scorpion carbine that I am either going to SBR or sell and build a cmmg guard upper for the current SBR AR and run endomags.


but what I really want is for ruger to dust off their 99/44 semi auto carbine, put it in a plastic stock, and scale up the bx-25 mag to take 10 rounds of 44mag instead of 25 of 22lr. Put it in a plastic stock and call it the hog-slayer. After they are tired of making money off that, scale it down to 357 mag, call it the pig-punisher and sell even more of them. It shouldn't be that hard to build. I want one of each.
 
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I am guessing thats not factory wood on that 357? No rubber recoil pad. It sure is pretty. I might be afraid to take that out in the brush.
 
Winchester and Marlin in 44 mag, Underwood M1 carbine, pair of 10-22s (which came first, I'm betting a S&W revolver), and a 92 Winchester in 357 (converted in the sixties by the esteemed Mr. Boozer.) The last isn't really a carbine but I like it anyway. Now the why: first two inherited from my dad and brother, next are for target and varmint, last was done during the Rifleman period. M1, because I got a deal and it is historical, handy and cool.
 
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