help 9 yo not allowed to enter ar15 pic in contest
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I won't pretend to know how all these religious organizations decide what violence is acceptable and what is not, but I think the key here is that this is a "PRIVATE" organization. As we gun owners like to point out, as a private org they can do whatever they want, and the opinion of non-members is in no way relevant.
The org is supported by money from the members, tuition or otherwise. Sounds like an internal issue if there ever was one. If the member doesn't like it they can take their money and walk. If they want to do that over something this predictable and frankly, this stupid... that is certainly their prerogative. Personally I'd just use it as an opportunity to teach junior that we don't always get exactly what we want, and that is a part of life. But what do I know; there is probably a good reason I'm not a parent.
You mean you really think it's stupid to be against an organization involved in early childhood education teaching those children that "Guns are bad"?
Personally I think it's stupid to let someone else teach my kids what I should be teaching them - It's not your duty to educate my child, it's my duty, just as it's not the police's duty to defend my family - it's my duty.
Personal responsibility really doesn't mean anything anymore does it?
Apachedriver
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Apparently. Nowadays, personal responsibility is more the homage and taxes we owe the government for making it the distributor of our rights and responsibilities as it sees fit and when it sees fit. Keep in step or you'll miss out on your rations.
On the plus side of it all, you(generically) don't have to worry about blame for anything since it's always someone else's fault now.
ETA: On another note though, there will always be things schools teach or do that run contrary to what any parent (liberal or conservative) believes for their children. Yes, you have to stand up against those things but also take the time to teach it at home as well. I do it with guns, evolution, et al. You can't always beat or change the system but neither does every disagreement need to turn into a rage against the machine.
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fatcat4620
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What was the point of this contest?
Reloadron
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My opinion and just my opinion. This is where things upset me:
Heaven forbid we should offend anyone. I wonder how I ever got where I am in life having been offended a few times and I am sure offending others a few times. Thank God we grew up with a thick skin and fresh air. While I see this entire Zombie thing as foolish nonsense I am hard pressed, as much as I look, to find anything offensive about what I see as a cute child's rendition of a rifle. Rather than a child receiving some credit for his work and effort on something he is obviously proud of he gets a message his efforts and work are inappropriate? That is just plain wrong.
However, to give the devil his due, the school is in fact a private school with their own rules and thinking. Had this been a public school, there would be more room for argument. Their school and their rules.
To my thinking, and just my thinking, those who would find that picture offensive should wash their children's socks in kerosene to prevent ants from crawling up to their candy butts. This extends well beyond guns and should be seen as such.
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Heaven forbid we should offend anyone. I wonder how I ever got where I am in life having been offended a few times and I am sure offending others a few times. Thank God we grew up with a thick skin and fresh air. While I see this entire Zombie thing as foolish nonsense I am hard pressed, as much as I look, to find anything offensive about what I see as a cute child's rendition of a rifle. Rather than a child receiving some credit for his work and effort on something he is obviously proud of he gets a message his efforts and work are inappropriate? That is just plain wrong.
However, to give the devil his due, the school is in fact a private school with their own rules and thinking. Had this been a public school, there would be more room for argument. Their school and their rules.
To my thinking, and just my thinking, those who would find that picture offensive should wash their children's socks in kerosene to prevent ants from crawling up to their candy butts. This extends well beyond guns and should be seen as such.
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Vote with your wallet.
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VERY well said. I agree 100%,
CoRoMo
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When I was in 2nd grade we were drawing pictures of dinosaurs and I remember being infatuated with my dad's Bowie knife at the time. So I drew a T-Rex and myself. I was stabbing the Bowie deep into the T-Rex's brisket and I used some red Crayons too.
The teacher did not approve of that picture at all.
Kids, eh?
The teacher did not approve of that picture at all.
Kids, eh?
I can't believe that someone didn't pick up on the Church logo before now. It has a sword right in it. Try to make a correlation between the sword from biblical times and the AR as the common man's sword of today. Metaphorically speaking, that quote that says if you do not have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one (or something like that) can be modernized by something like 'if you do not have an AR, sell your designer sneakers and buy one'.
Clearly the weapon aspect is not a problem with the bible in general or that church specifically. (caveat that this is just my superficial lay person's analysis).
Additionally: Seriously, that sword in the logo. Someone with too much Conan in their childhood put that in there. I don't believe it represents anything from biblical times or location (not that I am a historical weapons expert)
Clearly the weapon aspect is not a problem with the bible in general or that church specifically. (caveat that this is just my superficial lay person's analysis).
Additionally: Seriously, that sword in the logo. Someone with too much Conan in their childhood put that in there.
I don't believe it represents anything from biblical times or location (not that I am a historical weapons expert)wgaynor
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Changing someone's opinion once it's made up is an exercise in futility.
I'd using this as a teaching lesson to the child. Teach them that this is how gun rights get eroded. Then have the child work on a report about the brainwashing of children beginning in the school system beginning with the demonization of firearms. ( I know this may be above their education level, so feel free to lend assistance. It would be a great father/son project).
I'd then show it to the principle proudly and take my child elsewhere. Your'e child's attendance there equals money for the school.
I'd using this as a teaching lesson to the child. Teach them that this is how gun rights get eroded. Then have the child work on a report about the brainwashing of children beginning in the school system beginning with the demonization of firearms. ( I know this may be above their education level, so feel free to lend assistance. It would be a great father/son project).
I'd then show it to the principle proudly and take my child elsewhere. Your'e child's attendance there equals money for the school.
Salmoneye
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We certainly can't be upsetting 'Zombies' now, can we...
Axel Larson
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Even when it comes to firearms and self defense people will interpret the bible or any religious text as they want.
I also agree it looks more like a mp5.
I also agree it looks more like a mp5.
chicharrones
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Sure it has a sword, but everyone knows that swords are only carried by reenactors or people that want to display swords above their mantle. (Okay, that is mostly said with sarcasm.)
I bet if that kid had drawn a knight with a sword or a minuteman with a muzzle loader there wouldn't have been a problem.
chicharrones
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I was even wondering if there was a theme to the art contest. Perhaps, animals or an ark or something?
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wtr100 said:
Not cool.
You don't even know the people involved? So if this private school changes their mind, and no one tells you, but the school continues to get e-mail and phone calls about their decision from strangers.
Really not cool.
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