Help me make a point with a 10/22

[Euclidean]

Okay there's some threads here and there which sort of address this, but I'm trying to argue an important point with someone who is worth arguing with.

I want to show how the the various so called "assault weapons" bans are only about aesthetics and not what the gun itself is capable of, that the distinction between "Good" and "Bad" firearms is an arbitrary one, and merely a tool for those who wish to ban all firearms.

I have chosen the Ruger 10/22 as my subject because I know I'll get lots of leads, and .22 caliber rifles are ubiquitous and thought of as "harmless" by the subject. I am looking for links and pics of 10/22s which look "bad" but are really just a barrel, action, and receiver set in different furniture, or something along those lines.

Thanks in advance.

 

[gbran]

Here in CA, a 10/22 can't be an assault rifle, no matter how "bad" it looks. The assault rifle moniker only applies to centerfire rifles (legally speaking).

 

[Crosshair]

I have my 10/22 in a BC folding stock and I have a scope on it as well. (Assault sniper weapon???? ) BC Steel lips 25 round mags, extended magazine release, and sling complete the look. I also did trigger work and other internal mods, but you can't see those. I'll have to take some pics of it for you. I find the factory barrel accurate enough.

BTW, with the trigger work I did on it, I can shoot it fast enough that it looks like full auto AND do a reasonable job of keeping it on target. Just thought you would like to know in case you want video. Do you want me to make it look as evil as possible???

/My friends love my 10/22
//I will try to get you some pics of it tomorrow night.

 

[Mumbles_45]

 

[borrowedtime69]

modded 10-22

 

[Euclidean]

That's a great start. I had no idea how the ridiculous Kali laws applied to the 10/22.

 

[gazpacho]

I would instead make an analogy with serial killers. If the same legal methodology were applied to serial killers, all single - quiet - intelligent - nice - middle-aged - men would be thrown into jail on the presumption of being guilty.

Or cars. Not only does no one need to travel at speeds in excess of 75 MPH, doing so on public roads is against the law. Doing so excessively is extremely against the law. Therefore posession of a vehicle with speed capability in excess of 75 MPH shows possessive intent to break the law.

Or my favorite, "more people have died in this country, in this century, from drowning in applesauce than have died from bayonetting, and yet applesauce can still be bought at your corner convenience store by minors."

 

[American By Blood]

This is real. I don't want it to be, but it is.

Also, this link is paydirt for you. Bullpup 10/22

 

[jackslayer]

go to rimfire central. they have hundreds of pics. Many are exactly what your looking for

 

[MTMilitiaman]

Show them a pic of that Krink kit for the 10/22. That outta get a raise out of them.


http://www.krinkerplinker.com/

 

[EvisceratorSrB]

Wow... that is the coolest 10/22 I've ever seen...mad props to that. Do the CA laws also apply to 10/22's? It wasn't clear as I was reading earlier. If that was a centerfire rifle it would be an assault rifle, but would that be illegal too?

 

[Euclidean]

Thanks everyone, that all works nicely, especially that "Krinker Plinker" bit.

 

[hksw]

All are 10/22s.

 

[hqmhqm]

I want to show how the the various so called "assault weapons" bans are only about aesthetics and not what the gun itself is capable of, that the distinction between "Good" and "Bad" firearms is an arbitrary one, and merely a tool for those who wish to ban all firearms.

Actually, there was a guy who ran around shooting people who worked at abortion clinics in our town, using a 22 rifle. It was as deadly as could be. I believe it was a 10/22

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N13/salvi.13w.html

My daughter, who is eight years old, asked when went shooting if a .22 will kill. I said yes, it can kill someone easily, it is not a toy.


I hate it when people go around saying that a .22 is just like a BB gun.

BTW, my daughter shoots my AR15 with the .22 Ciener conversion...

 

[Euclidean]

The point isn't that a .22 is somehow magically incapable of being used for harm, the point is that the .22 is ubiquitous. It's the only gun many non gun people have ever even fired.

The point being, if they can realize the utility of the .22, and realize that just because the .22 has certain cosmetic features it's still just a .22, maybe they can make the connection that a dressed up rifle is not anything to get excited about.

 

[Crosshair]

No point in posting my 10/22, you already got it with that Krink pic.

 

[soul_rapier]

man i didnt know you can dress up a 22 like that the 1 dress like a m60 was killer where can i get 1 at ?

 

[MTMilitiaman]

I think it is dressed up as an MG42, not an M60. The M60 had, from my understanding, the same feed system as the MG42, but that was it.

I agree though, it is cool as heck.

And for the record, I never meant to imply the Krink pic was mine. That is from the manufacture's website. I had just seen it around and thought it fit what the guy was looking for. My 10/22 is set up more for target shooting and medium range varminting:

 

[American By Blood]

That is indeed a MG-42 drop-in kit. It pops up every so often in catalogs like "Cheaper Than Dirt"

 

[hksw]

Be aware that the 2/3 size replica stock of the MG42 is essentially all plastic (save a few nuts, bolts, washers, and springs).

 

[rockstar.esq]

American By Blood, that is without a doubt the ugliest camo job I have ever seen!

 

[sixgunner455]

"Actually, there was a guy who ran around shooting people who worked at abortion clinics in our town, using a 22 rifle. It was as deadly as could be. I believe it was a 10/22"

I hate that article. "1,000 hollow-tip bullets, designed to maximize injuries to human victims." :banghead: I probably have twice that sitting around waiting for me to shoot. No "human victims" either. Might shoot a rabbit or a squirrel, though.

Yes, it was a 10/22 with a pistol grip, folding stock, and 25 round magazine. Deadly as could be? He was inches away from the two he managed to kill. Somebody shot back (security guard) and he ran.

My 10/22 is a walnut stocked Deluxe version. I have a 25 round magazine for when I just want to shoot, but I usually use one of the 10 rounders I have sitting on top of the safe. Scoped. Made 20 years or more ago. It's pretty boring compared to some of these conversions, but it's fun to shoot. That's what most .22 rifles are for -- fun. Just for fun.

 

[hqmhqm]

I just don't think that it's a good idea to make the argument that .22 rifles are less than lethal, even if they are very common and familiar.

A better argument would be to find a way to convince people that there may come a day when they would find themselves wanting something with a large magazine. There are two reasons I can think of. One is that it is fun to plink with less reloading. The other is for defensive purposes, the Rodney King riots in LA and the New Orleans anarchy were good examples of this.

 

[MatthewVanitas]

Dixie Consolidated Bullpup looks pretty wicked.

But I'd say the Krinker Plinker is tops for Evil Vibe.


@hksw: you rock! I've always wanted to see a NIN sticker on a black synthetic stock. I've got a $40 Marlin .22 with a black stock, think I might buy a White Sharpie Marker and let some tagger kid decorate all the stockwork.


-MV

 

[atblis]

How about

the Israelis favorite RockChuckingPalestinian plinking tool. It would be coming from the opposite side of the argument. I am not sure it would really prove anything, but...