Home defense 10/22

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As others have said, don't cheap out on magazines. The ruger bx25 is great, the tactical solutions ones are still slightly better although they may be hard to find, I'm not sure if they're still made, But the top end versions can be adjusted for your mag well, which is what Id want in a hd gun for total peace of mind in feeding. Don't get a plastic lip mag whatever the case, I've had quite a few and they all wore the lips out after 2500 rounds or less.
 
Stick with the factory BX-25 magazines.

Find the hottest and heaviest .22lr the rifle will feed with 100% reliability (this will require some experimentation).
 
Byron here is a post from a while back...

Back when I was young and first married the hot set-up for lower income couples(like me and other married friends) was a Ruger .22 pistol loaded with CCI Stingers for HD.One of our un-married friends bought his frail Mother a .22 semi-auto rifle (either a 10/22 or nylon 66,can't remember) and loaded it with Stingers as well. While a 12ga SG might be a better HD choice you learn to get what you can when in need.10 Stingers in any area of the body has to hurt , I would think. If you have no gun at this time, I'd get the SG first and get the 10/22 as quickly as you can afterward. tom.


Stingers, Mini-Mags either Solids or HPs, they all work about the same IMHO. Good luck in your search. tom. :cool:
 
I have always been proficent with firearms. Several things lead up to my post. Old wounds and injuries from Nam in 68-69 has caused me pain in the shoulder,arm and hand.Arthritis has deveoped somewhat in my hand. I can handle 22's with no problem and when shooting my 222's I use a recoil pad.My Glock 42 is about the strongest recoil I can handle. I got a new 10/22 with laser and the Ruger 25 round mag. I am now comfortable with this for home protection with all the excellent input I have received. Thanks to all,Byron
 
Good luck with your choice. The 10/22 is a very good rifle with lots of accesories available if needed.

Stock up on factory mags and ammo now if this is what you will stick with for HD purpose.
 
I've always preferred hollowpoints from CCI. I have no experience shooting anything bigger than rabbits and squirrels with a .22, but I learned quickly that the solid points do not kill squirrels as quickly as the hp's. I suppose .22's are like center fires in that solid points penetrate better.

Coastie nailed it when he mentioned that the difference between handgun and rifle ballistics in a .22 are vastly different. A .22Magnum handgun equals a .22LR from a rifle. A .22 rifle is a meaningful answer to an intruder, especially in the extra handy 10/22.
 
Deus Machina said:
Wood is hardly going to treat a round like a human body. A hard material is going to expand some things that otherwise wouldn't, mash and clog things that otherwise would, and break up things that may zip right through a lung.

While that may indeed be true the ballastic gelatin results, which ARE meant to replicate performance on soft tissue targets, reveal the same thing. Hollowpoints both penetrate further and hold together better than solids on average, according to the results Bartholomew Roberts shared. I have little use for "solids" in 22 LR. They are inferior for just about every purpose compared with most hollowpoint rounds.
 
I have always been proficent with firearms. Several things lead up to my post. Old wounds and injuries from Nam in 68-69 has caused me pain in the shoulder,arm and hand.Arthritis has deveoped somewhat in my hand. I can handle 22's with no problem and when shooting my 222's I use a recoil pad.My Glock 42 is about the strongest recoil I can handle. I got a new 10/22 with laser and the Ruger 25 round mag. I am now comfortable with this for home protection with all the excellent input I have received. Thanks to all,Byron



I'd rather face a .357 in the hands of a punk than a .22 in the hands of a vet; a steady heart goes farther than a steady hand, in the real world of self defense.

Get it set up with a reliable load and mag, and you'll be as well defended as anyone here, IMHO.

Larry
 
What are your "personal reasons" for choosing a very unconventional choice in SD (let alone HD) caliber? Recoil? Penetration of construction materials? Cost?

Mike
 
What are your "personal reasons" for choosing a very unconventional choice in SD (let alone HD) caliber? Recoil? Penetration of construction materials? Cost?

While Byron answered his this question on his own, I can see making the same decision.

There's a lot to be said for a rifle that allows for very fast followup shots, high capacity, and can be practiced with very inexpensively. Aside from anything else, unlike the very popular AR15, it won't be like a flash-bang going off in your house at night.

I use a 12ga, so I have not made the voice to go with a .22, but I know my wife is considering it. I really don't imagine that bad guy who starts getting peppered in the face neck and upper torso with rapid followups of CCI velocitor/Stinger rounds is very likely to stick around.
 
What are your "personal reasons" for choosing a very unconventional choice in SD (let alone HD) caliber?

Thirty-four replies before someone decided to shift from what the OP asked (though he answers the above in post 29, post 1 should have sufficed.)

Considering the number of bad guys taken down, driven off, or captured each year with "the lowly twenty-two", I hardly see it as an "unconventional choice".

Countless folks, from the city to the farms, have a .22 rifle at the ready for defense at home. Anyone would be wise not to mess with them.
 
I have always been proficent with firearms. Several things lead up to my post. Old wounds and injuries from Nam in 68-69 has caused me pain in the shoulder,arm and hand.Arthritis has deveoped somewhat in my hand. I can handle 22's with no problem and when shooting my 222's I use a recoil pad.My Glock 42 is about the strongest recoil I can handle. I got a new 10/22 with laser and the Ruger 25 round mag. I am now comfortable with this for home protection with all the excellent input I have received. Thanks to all,Byron
Sounds like some excellent reasons. I would go with the most powerful and heaviest .22LR loads. Stick with 40gr. Mini-mags or SGBs are good choices.

Mike
 
Thirty-four replies before someone decided to shift from what the OP asked (though he answers the above in post 29, post 1 should have sufficed.)

Considering the number of bad guys taken down, driven off, or captured each year with "the lowly twenty-two", I hardly see it as an "unconventional choice".

Countless folks, from the city to the farms, have a .22 rifle at the ready for defense at home. Anyone would be wise not to mess with them.
I was not shifting from his question I just wanted to understand his reasoning better. I thought I had read through the thread but had missed his reply.

Mike
 
CCI Velocitors would be my choice

Even though I suggested solids, CCI Velocitors would be my choice as well IF I had some. I have not seen Velocitors in a store in ages. I keep a few boxes available and they seem to feed very well in my Ruger Mark II and 10/22. I don't shoot my factory 10/22 much anymore as I have migrated to more target type shooting and bolt action rifles. But I still enjoy the Mark II. My SR-22P runs pretty well too. But if I were choosing a 22 rifle for home defense, the 10/22 would get the nod.

I like to do quick point shooting with the 10/22 as I bring the rifle to my shoulder. I find it amazing just how accurate you can be on things like soda cans at 15 yds using this technique.
 
Once again Thanks to all for the help. I will use the CCI Mini Mag 40 grain round nose. This is why I like THR with all the good inforamtion available.
 
Byron -

First of all, thank you very much for your service to our country.

A Ruger 10/22 equipped with one of the Lasermax lasers and a factory BX-25 magazine could put a whole lot of shots on target pretty quickly at ten or so yards. I especially like the one suggestion of upgrading the magazine release lever to something easier to use under stress or in the dark. The black factory 10-round magazines that fit flush could be handier for maneuverability inside, but 10 rounds are gone pretty quickly in the 10/22.

My wife has degenerative health issues in her hands and I have been considering going from our S&W Model 10 to the semi-automatic 10/22 for her primary home defense weapon, so your thread and the good folks on THR have given me some timely and encouraging information.

Have you decided on whether you will have it ready with a 10-round flush magazine or a good quality higher capacity extended one? Also, do you plan to keep a round in the chamber with the safety engaged, or would you pull the bolt back to load one off the top for your first shot?

I hope you never need to use it, but it sounds like you will be ready and able if the need arises. Good luck!
 
I don't see any problem with a 10/22 for home defense at all. This rifle is accurate enough, mine at least has been extremely reliable especially with the better quality .22 ammunition that some are suggesting, such as CCI, etc. A good quality red dot or their new laser max model like another poster suggested would ensure effective shot placement. But in my eyes the largest advantage a 10/22 has going for it is that is is a .22 rifle. It is extremely quiet when firing without ear protection compared to a centerfire rifle, handgun, shotgun, etc.. There is little muzzle flash to potentially ruin your night vision.. And is is foolish to discount the devastating potential of a very quick mag dump from a ruger factory 25 rounder... There is virtually no recoil due to the diminutive round, so extremely rapid follow up shots are easy, but you can be sure that no one is going to take that magazine of .22s to the chest and emerge unscathed and asking for more!
 
ilbill, I have the Ruger 25 round magazine and will use that.My 10/22 is a new one so the mag release is quicker.I do not plan to keep a chambered round,it is very quick to pull the slide back.I was a grunt in 68-69 with D Co,3/8th Inf,4th Inf Div and roamed the Central Highlands on 4 man teams.I slept holding my chambered 16. I am sorry your wife is having the difficulty she is. Cherish her.My bride and I have been married 43 years.I am losing her to health reasons and Hospice has been wonderful for her and me. I think we have done all we can with my OP and will refer to this as I hope others will. Byron
 
Instead of looking at what magazines hold the highest capacity, I would stick with the magazines that feed rounds consistently and reliably. The same can be said about ammo as well. Stick with solid FMJ rounds, as I think you want as much penetration as possible with a .22.
 
10/22 Is a very dependable gun. As stated the cheap after market mags give some trouble but the steel lips and old ram line never gave me any problems . just those cheap things I picked up at some gun show .. Try out whatever your going to keep on hand .
 
Make sure whatever you chose feeds flawlessly. My SIL has 3 10/22s and none of them feed hollow points well. Be sure to practice: finding weapon, depress safety, clear a jam, and reload, in complete darkness. Have a light source available, you must positively identify your assailant as armed, and a danger (not a LEO).
 
Stick with solid FMJ rounds,

To the best of my knowledge, due mainly to the way the bullet is designed ( a "heel" bullet"), there isn't such a thing as a "FMJ" .22 round....the rounds are plated at best, and have nothing comparable to a full metal jacket surrounding them.
 
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