orangeninja
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Okay, I just read this on another thread and though this topic deserves "special" attention due to the fact that you are MUCH more likely to hit someone than shoot them.
"Someone please clarify something for me. What is the drawback to closed-fist stikes? Years ago, I took Tae-Kwon-Do for a while and they taught closed-fist strikes. It seems like that would deliver a more powerful blow.
Is the problem because you have a greater chance of injuring your hand?"
I have been taught the old school Roman-Greco style punch that most of us are familiar with, a balled up fist strike over hand.
Not too long ago though, I attended some refresher defensive tactics courses. Since my initial defensive tactics, I had learned some Muy Thai. Just enough to win a street fight and cuff someone, not enough to win a competition.
They were teaching the hammer fist, which is an overhand strike using the fleshy bottom of your fist as the strike surface. Now this is nice, but lacks 1 fundamental aspect of several Muy Thai strikes. So this is what I suggest you guys try out.
the heel strike. You all may be familiar with this. Many people have been taught that this is actually "deadly" force as it will send nose bone fragments into the brain. Actually, you WILL break the nose, or teeth, but it is highly unlikely you will kill anyone. When you strike, lock your elbow and hunch your back forward. I hit an instructor in the chest doing this and knocked him flat. Worked like a charm every time, EVEN WHEN HE KNEW IT WAS COMING!!!
Another was in using the elbow, this should be obvious but WHY it works is not. It is NOT because it is hard. It IS because it is an unmoving, non shock absorbing surface and as thus will transfer the most energy upon impact. Much like a heel strike. If you strike with the heel of your hand right where your wrist, arm and hand meet, you have the least amount of compression.
the good ol' fashioned slap, except slap with the heel of your hand. Now this will NOT have near the effect or power of a front heel strike or elbow, but since the heel of your hand is a dense bone mass, is more effective than a round house "hay maker" or closed fist punch.
Lastly the hammer strike. Same as the palm heel slap except over hand.
All of these blows carry tremendous force and will buy you a couple of seconds at least, in a real fight. Practicing these feels weird at first, but I think it would benefit anyone SERIOUS about self defense.
This should make for some interesting reading.
"Someone please clarify something for me. What is the drawback to closed-fist stikes? Years ago, I took Tae-Kwon-Do for a while and they taught closed-fist strikes. It seems like that would deliver a more powerful blow.
Is the problem because you have a greater chance of injuring your hand?"
I have been taught the old school Roman-Greco style punch that most of us are familiar with, a balled up fist strike over hand.
Not too long ago though, I attended some refresher defensive tactics courses. Since my initial defensive tactics, I had learned some Muy Thai. Just enough to win a street fight and cuff someone, not enough to win a competition.
They were teaching the hammer fist, which is an overhand strike using the fleshy bottom of your fist as the strike surface. Now this is nice, but lacks 1 fundamental aspect of several Muy Thai strikes. So this is what I suggest you guys try out.
the heel strike. You all may be familiar with this. Many people have been taught that this is actually "deadly" force as it will send nose bone fragments into the brain. Actually, you WILL break the nose, or teeth, but it is highly unlikely you will kill anyone. When you strike, lock your elbow and hunch your back forward. I hit an instructor in the chest doing this and knocked him flat. Worked like a charm every time, EVEN WHEN HE KNEW IT WAS COMING!!!
Another was in using the elbow, this should be obvious but WHY it works is not. It is NOT because it is hard. It IS because it is an unmoving, non shock absorbing surface and as thus will transfer the most energy upon impact. Much like a heel strike. If you strike with the heel of your hand right where your wrist, arm and hand meet, you have the least amount of compression.
the good ol' fashioned slap, except slap with the heel of your hand. Now this will NOT have near the effect or power of a front heel strike or elbow, but since the heel of your hand is a dense bone mass, is more effective than a round house "hay maker" or closed fist punch.
Lastly the hammer strike. Same as the palm heel slap except over hand.
All of these blows carry tremendous force and will buy you a couple of seconds at least, in a real fight. Practicing these feels weird at first, but I think it would benefit anyone SERIOUS about self defense.
This should make for some interesting reading.