I Know I'll Get Flamed But Best Round for Killing Zombies

[mustanger98]

Pretty sure some 7.62 NATO's (.308 Rem for those of us south of the Mason-Dixon) fed through an FN F-2000 would do the trick, if you could come up with a duffle bag and a ___load of 30rd mags.

That's .308Winchester (for those bystanders who don't know the difference). If I'm dealing with a mag-fed rifle, I'll take my Mini-14 (5.56mm/.223Rem.). Otherwise, I'll stick with my M1 Garand and 7.62x63 in whatever configurations I can handload that will work reliably and safely in this weapon.

 

[Deer Hunter]

Too bad commercial 30-06 is usually loaded too hot for the M1. Reliability issues are not something you want to deal with then the undead are banging at your door.

 

[mustanger98]

Too bad commercial 30-06 is usually loaded too hot for the M1. Reliability issues are not something you want to deal with then the undead are banging at your door.

Yeah. My understanding is IMR4064 and IMR4895 are the right burn rate, but you also have to have the right bullet weight range to have the right pressure at the gas port.

One thing I've wondered about... I might oughta take this one to the ammo or handloading forums, but I wonder if anybody's tried loading some 110-125grainer's and ran 'em in an M1. Oughta do it for a zombie.

 

[GW]

Don't need to burn them up. The zombie bacillus, Hamet mortadella, is an anaerobe which means it dies in the presence of oxygen. Since it resides in the brainpan, you simply need to introduce oxygen to the cranial cavity and instant oxidation and death. The best way to do this is, of course with a hard enough projectile moving at sufficient velocity to enter and exit the skull (More ventilation = more oxygen = faster zombie termination.)
12 gauges obviously cause massive ventilation but are messy and the cleanup is unpleasant. Flamethrowers and their hazards were adequately described earlier so I won't repeat them here. Handguns require too close a proximity to the undead for use except, of course as a last ditch defense. This leaves the rifle as the best undead reversal device. As reports have shown that the .223 was less than sterling in its performance against the living zombies of Mogadishu, I must assert then, that the .308 is the best caliber for the task. It has enough power to enter and exit the zombie skull and with skill or luck should be sufficient to do the same to any undead that may be properly alighned for the shot. It is also the least expensive and most available of the high power rounds with the capability for this gruesome but necessary task.

Any questions or suggestions?

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Zombies aren't real...

Keep telling yourself that. Just don't come crying to us when the undead fiends gnaw the living flesh from your bones.

 

[Mark8252]

Zombie Killers

Personally I would use any of the following I own combined with one of my 1911's for back up.

Winchester 94 30-30
Bushmaster Disapator 223
Ruger Mini-14
Mossberg 500 12ga.
Remington 1100 12ga
Remington 870 12 or 20 ga.
Winchester 1200 12ga.

I think i like the idea of doing in zombies with the 30-30 now that I think about it.

 

[The Guy]

With zombies, anything that will penetrate the skull will do the job. So what ever you have will work, as long as you have plenty of it. I plan on using .22lr and .22 mag for most zombie work, and save my heavier stuff for other problems.

I think that other than getting surrounded and eaten, the largest threat comes from roaving bands of bad guys raping and pillaging their way through the lawless wastelands that once was CONUS.

The fast zombies hopefully would keep such maraurding to a minimum, but relying on the fast zombies to eliminate or minimize such a threat would be foolhardy to say the least.

In conclusion, even in the zombie appocolypse we will still need to be ready for the men who prey upon others. In the vaccum of law, that which can be taken by force will, so stay vigilant to the predatations of evil by man.

Do not forget that zombies are mindles, but that every man has at minimum a rudamentary abillity to think and reason, contrary to actions seemingly proving otherwise.

 

[GW]

But...
As I think about this more I come to realize that zombies are only victims
Victims of a horrible curse but worse Victims of our prejudice
Who amongst us has stopped and sat down with a zombie and just had a rap session. Maybe in their cursed state, they aren't aware that eating the flesh of living beings is not the way to act in polite society. Who among us has stopped and said to a zombie "Brother, would you like a cheeseburger instead of that little old lady's throat?"
We all talk of ways to kill them more efficiently, but have any of us stopped to ask:
Are they acting the way they do because we treat them the way WE do?

Food for thought

 

[ndh87]

The "official" zombie and vampire website... http://www.fvza.org/

 

[GW]

I have a bunch of zombies working for me. If anyone can come up with a way to just make them move faster I'd be open for that!
Jim

Have you tried paying them more?
How about benefits?
You know, just throwing them a rotting carcass now and again is hardly the way to inspire them.
Zombie exploiters like you are the root of the problem

Zombie Rights!
Zombie Rights!
Zombie Rights!

 

[GW]

Hmm perhaps I was a bit harsh
In fact Maybe I should be commending Jim for reaching out to the undead community with jobs and dignity that the rest of the world would deny them. Giving them a hand up rather than a hand out

Like the saying goes; give a zombie a hand and you feed him for a day, teach him how to get his own hand and he'll eat forever.

 

[PeteRR]

You need to build a portable abbatoir. You have a person in a lexan booth to attract the zombies. They get led threw a cattle chute into the killing chamber, where a sensor determines the height of each particular zombie, and a razor sharp blade deploys and decapitates the "victim". A trap door opens and deposits the remains onto a conveyor which carries them out of the vehicle. Mount the whole shebang on a 24 foot flatbed truck and you're good to go. Combine it with an industrial chipper and you eliminate the unslightly piles of dead xombies.

 

[GW]

You need to build a portable abbatoir

The horror
the horror

Zom bay yah my lord, zom bay yah...

 

[Confirmedkill]

Miniguns with mercury tipped bullets.

 

[TimboKhan]

Because I am a nerd, I have thought long and hard about this topic for more years than I care to mention, and my conclusion would be that I would probably go with the good ol' .223. Mostly, that conclusion is based on the fact that at the moment I have tons of .223 ammo and three different .223 rifles from which to launch it.

 

[BobTheTomato]

Sawed off shotgun. If you must hit something in the head I would want a wide scatter.

 

[Dr. Dickie]

Whereas a shotgun has great splatter potenial, the problem is you have to get close. And if the movies and video games have taught us nothing, it is that zombie hoards are dangerous at close range.
A good shotgun by your side is good thinking incase one slips by and suprises you (again, it is well documented their ability to suprise), but you really want to reach-out-and-touch them at a distance. M1A or Garand, ummmm I would keep both handy (and do).

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

I've always wondered about the infectious potential of zombie blood. I mean, if the zombies can make you a zombie by biting you, couldn't you become a zombie if zombie bodily fluids got in an open cut or some such thing? It doesn't seem to be a problem in the movies, where the main characters are often splattered with zombie blood, but I wouldn't want to chance it. I agree with the advice to reach out and touch them from a distance.

The fact that I shoot my DPMS dissipator better than any other gun I have ever shot, that I can acquire targets more quickly and accurately with it, and that I have about 1000 rounds loaded up in magazines at this very moment makes it my first line of zombie defense.

 

[johnmcl]

With GW

Hi all,

I'm with GW on this one.

Who are we to criticize the undead, their eating habits, and their values? I can't see where we were given dominion over them to impose our values on them. And for us, *gasp* to put violence on them for them just being them, well, seems too harsh for us to even consider.

The way forward is to dispense with all this talk of 5.56s and 7.62s, and really try to understand the zombies. After all, with our western culture obviously being the causal element in their reaction, mustn't we assume the lead in righting what's wrong?

After all, isn't that how we'd want to be treated? There is no right or wrong here, just misunderstandings....


John

 

[mustanger98]

And they don't like being called "zombies" either. They prefer "undead-Americans".

 

[TimboKhan]

I've always wondered about the infectious potential of zombie blood. I mean, if the zombies can make you a zombie by biting you, couldn't you become a zombie if zombie bodily fluids got in an open cut or some such thing

According to the Zombie Survival Guide, getting splattered by Zombie blood is not particularly worrisome. If you think about it, most zombies don't have that much blood to begin with, since most of it shoots out of them during the process of zombification. If anything, zombies are more full of goo than blood, and while experts aren't certain why, getting splashed by goo alone doesn't seem to be transmissive.

 

[Lobotomy Boy]

Good point about the goo. I hadn't thought about it before. Most of what I've read about bodily fluids as vectors for transmission of disease refers to the bodily fluids of live humans--blood, saliva, urine, semen. I've not studied up on zombie goo as a vector for disease transmission. It probably isn't worse than any other maggot-infested medium, like manure, roadkill, or the other stuff they make the contestants on Fear Factor eat.

 

[Correia]

Yeah, I've been waist deep in Zombie goo before, even with my chainsaw flinging it everywhere, and have never had an issue. You're probably gonna want to wear some safety goggles though.

 

[Hugo]

The other handy zombie strategy nobody's ever used is simple..

The zombies will rot, so if you can wait them out, they will soon slow down a lot as they literlly fall apart.

Also if you're in a cold climate, when winter comes you get.... Zombiesicles! Grab a baseball bat and smashy smashy! Only problem is you would be pretty outnumbered.

Also remember this.... IF (and it's one mighty big IF) zombies ever were to really actually happen, all these zombie movies would kind of be "training films" on what to do when people start acting kind of dead and moaning braiiiins. Zombies would probably be swiftly dealt with in most parts of the world. Though some areas would get bad and need to be carpet bombed or something to clean them out.

Ok can this please be the last zombie thread? It's getting as bad as "What 1911 should I buy?" or "9 mm vs .45"

ENOUGH ALREADY!! It's been done to death! Pun intended!

 

[Correia]

Hugo, just wait until my book comes out at the end of the year, and then I'm going to spam zombie threads all over the internet.