madmike
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Well, we can't do anything to beat alien technology, so that's a different strategy. And zombies exist in most cultures' myths. There could be a reason.
I Know I'll Get Flamed But Best Round for Killing Zombies
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GW
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Oh no, Its real-- Be afraid, be very afraid...
And its all our fault. If only we tried to reason with them, they wouldn't be behaving the way they do. If only we tried to reach our inner-zombie, we could find common ground with our undead brothers and sisters, and march hand in hand together into the future. But no, we choose instead to live in fear and rather than reach out in peace and love, we plot ways to kill them.
No, Even those who plot the genocide of zombies are only victims of their own fears and prejudices. For you to react this way to zombieophobes would only make you a zombieophobeophobe and as you can see, it only extends the vicious circle.
Well, those are for other threads. Please use your search function
TexasRifleman
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Thanks to our great writer friend Halffast, they are now MZBs or Mutant Zombie Bikers. Another name for less than desirables that might be a threat after some SHTF sort of things
Edit: At least "Lights Out" was where I first read the term so I'm crediting Halffast with it's invention anyway.
johnmcl
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Correction
GW,
I think the right term is zombophobe, which is a specific version of undeadophobia.
I tried once to walk hand in hand with a zombie, and it came off at the elbow, but dude, you have it right on our lack of understanding of the zombie culture.
Somedays I wish we were more French.....
John
GW,
I think the right term is zombophobe, which is a specific version of undeadophobia.
I tried once to walk hand in hand with a zombie, and it came off at the elbow, but dude, you have it right on our lack of understanding of the zombie culture.
Somedays I wish we were more French.....
John
madmike
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The danger of zombie goo is real. If you can't get them past 50 yards, you'll need protective clothing. I recommend a good long sword or cutting spear--damage the legs and they are unable to pursue as easily.
Keep in mind that fast zombies are more of a threat, and even the traditional 28 day variety can pull themselves along with their lips.
I did speak to a zombie who said he has trouble understanding the trouble in the Middle East. He was quite emphatic that Jewish and Muslim brains taste identical.
Keep in mind that fast zombies are more of a threat, and even the traditional 28 day variety can pull themselves along with their lips.
I did speak to a zombie who said he has trouble understanding the trouble in the Middle East. He was quite emphatic that Jewish and Muslim brains taste identical.
Carl N. Brown
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Ladysmith: "We are seriously in need of another good zombie flick."
Ah, there's the problem: that operant word: good zombie
flick. Lord knows there's plenty of the other variety.
Although I must say, Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things
was a fun, tasty morsel in its own right. Take the guy who gave us
A Christmas Story and Porky's, add zombies, and pop the
popcorn Patty.
Ah, there's the problem: that operant word: good zombie
flick. Lord knows there's plenty of the other variety.
Although I must say, Children Shouldn't Play With Dead Things
was a fun, tasty morsel in its own right. Take the guy who gave us
A Christmas Story and Porky's, add zombies, and pop the
popcorn Patty.
Let’s go back to Andy here for a minute. He’s in a gun store about 100 yards away from the mall. If I was in the mall, the most logical way to get food to Andy would have been a trebuchet. They had the supplies, the area, and the time. First you build the trebuchet, then you test with items that would be the same weight as the food you intend to toss over. Once you have the distance correct, you send over packs of food wrapped in cloth. Once Andy has enough food, you toss 45 pound plates from the MC Sporting Goods store into the zombie crowd. Talk about fun! I’m sure Andy had more bullets than citizens in the city. Eventually, he would have killed them all.
Andy should have mentioned he was running out of food long before he did. And the folks in the mall...who cares if you are bored? Make the best of it. Of course, I do remember they said something about not having an endless food supply.
Andy should have mentioned he was running out of food long before he did. And the folks in the mall...who cares if you are bored? Make the best of it. Of course, I do remember they said something about not having an endless food supply.
Now let’s be realistic here. WHEN the zombies show up, no one is going to have time to stock up, steal additional guns, or form a zombie killing party. The scenario would most likely be you’re in bed sleeping, probably naked, and you’ve got one gun loaded and nearby. That should be the starting block for most zombie scenarios…the worst case scenario.
I’m a new gun owner, but I became a gun owner BECAUSE of zombies. And even though I’ve only owned my new guns for less than a year, I have my Glock 21 within reach from my bed, a 12 gauge pump in the closet, another 12 gauge in the basement (in case I’m caught off guard on the wrong floor of the house), and a loaded clip secretly stashed in 6 of my 11 rooms. I have ammo stockpiled on both floors just in case I get cut off. But even this is not good enough.
Zombies can come through doors and glass…but apparently not through a wall (even though walls are easier to get through than most doors). Keeping this in mind, everyone should have a stockpile of ¾” ply to board up windows. It would be best to secure the sheets with 3” deck screws if you are attaching them from the inside of the house. If your windows are not secure, then no amount of ammo is going to help.
Once all the windows are boarded up, the doors should be secured with no less then 3 2x4’s. Again, 3” deck screws are preferable. The doors are of the utmost concern because this will most likely be the entry point for desperate non-zombie citizens who need refuge. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE do you allow additional people to board with you unless they are family or life-long friends.
Now that all entry points are secure (which shouldn’t take more than 30 minutes), you will need to fortify different rooms for different purposes. Things to be concerned about:
1. Potential breach points and respectable fall-back points
2. Fire, both external and internal
3. Fortified cover from potential air-strike blanketing
4. Emergency exits when all else has failed
Once all these issues have been addresses, you should stockpile water in every container possible. There is always the possibility that the water can become contaminated, but highly unlikely within the first few hours of a zombie outbreak. Food is your last concern. If everything else is secure, you should be able to sustain for several days.
For those with connected garages only:
If you have a connecting garage, and if your car is already in your garage, this area should be fortified next since it is (1) very secure, and (2) the most logical exit as long as you don’t drive a Pinto. Collect any gas you may have (siphon from mowers if necessary) and fill you tank. Next, protect your radiator! If you have to plow through a horde of zombies, there is a good chance your radiator will be punctured. If that happens, it’s all over. Secure angle iron, 4x4’s, 2x4’s, or whatever you have to the nose of your vehicle. Do not worry about the damage to your vehicle since that is the least of your worries. A V-plow design works best as it will “cut through” the mob. You can spend time barricading the windows, but no at the expense of weighing your vehicle down too much. Small cars should less than 500 pounds of fortification attached to them. The shocks need ample room to rebound after rolling over bodies, and acceleration is greatly reduced. Your goal is a quick plow and then outrunning the masses.
Once these measures have been taken, you need to go to the roof. Preferable, the roof entrance/exit should be connecting to the garage. This can easily be created with a standard axe. Once you are on the roof, you should survey the situation BEFORE you start plugging away at the walking dead. If you have family members with you, one should ALWAYS be in the house maintaining the houses integrity. 2-way radios will help communication between the roof-man and the house-man (or woman).
When all T’s are crossed and I’s dotted, you enter the maintenance stage. During this stage you should ration out the food and create a timeline. If the phones are still active, only now do you attempt to contact loved ones. The best thing to do is sit and wait. However, food supply will dictate the duration of your maintenance stage and your next move.
There are only two situations that should force you from your compound: food or the undeniable end. If it is for food, the scenario works best with 4 people. One remains on the roof as a lookout, both for the best departure time and when the food-runners return. One remains in the garage. This person will need to open the garage door if it is not automatic. If the door is automatic, then you still need a gunman when the food runners return. Two should leave in the vehicle. The driver never gets out. The other is the runner who must go into a store, retrieve food, and return.
If it is the undeniable end, everyone must go. Chances are you will not be able to return. Plan a destination that is feasible to reach with the amount of fuel you have. Do not depend on a gas station being open. Everyone other than the driver should be armed (preferable with a shotgun) and ready to shoot oncoming zombies. Expect express ways to be blocked, particularly the on and off ramps, so be aware of back-road possibilities. Your destination should be something better than what you are leaving. Do not drive blind. If you are lucky enough to live in the northern part of the US, head further north. The populations are lower, the temperatures lower, and the possibilities greater. However, avoid passing large cities as there is likely to be millions of zombies. And avoid bridges that enter into other countries (Canada) or Upper Peninsulas (Michigan). They will most likely be blocked by those who live on the other side in hopes of protecting their own land.
Last, but not least, have mêlée weapons. At some point you will need them. Broad swords are best as they can take a head off with one swipe. But if you are using this weapon, it is really only a matter of time before you are overrun. Kiss your wife good bye, chop off her head, and then run the sword through the bottom of your jaw upwards through your brain. You can use the weight of your body to accomplish this.
I hope this helps.
I’m a new gun owner, but I became a gun owner BECAUSE of zombies. And even though I’ve only owned my new guns for less than a year, I have my Glock 21 within reach from my bed, a 12 gauge pump in the closet, another 12 gauge in the basement (in case I’m caught off guard on the wrong floor of the house), and a loaded clip secretly stashed in 6 of my 11 rooms. I have ammo stockpiled on both floors just in case I get cut off. But even this is not good enough.
Zombies can come through doors and glass…but apparently not through a wall (even though walls are easier to get through than most doors). Keeping this in mind, everyone should have a stockpile of ¾” ply to board up windows. It would be best to secure the sheets with 3” deck screws if you are attaching them from the inside of the house. If your windows are not secure, then no amount of ammo is going to help.
Once all the windows are boarded up, the doors should be secured with no less then 3 2x4’s. Again, 3” deck screws are preferable. The doors are of the utmost concern because this will most likely be the entry point for desperate non-zombie citizens who need refuge. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE do you allow additional people to board with you unless they are family or life-long friends.
Now that all entry points are secure (which shouldn’t take more than 30 minutes), you will need to fortify different rooms for different purposes. Things to be concerned about:
1. Potential breach points and respectable fall-back points
2. Fire, both external and internal
3. Fortified cover from potential air-strike blanketing
4. Emergency exits when all else has failed
Once all these issues have been addresses, you should stockpile water in every container possible. There is always the possibility that the water can become contaminated, but highly unlikely within the first few hours of a zombie outbreak. Food is your last concern. If everything else is secure, you should be able to sustain for several days.
For those with connected garages only:
If you have a connecting garage, and if your car is already in your garage, this area should be fortified next since it is (1) very secure, and (2) the most logical exit as long as you don’t drive a Pinto. Collect any gas you may have (siphon from mowers if necessary) and fill you tank. Next, protect your radiator! If you have to plow through a horde of zombies, there is a good chance your radiator will be punctured. If that happens, it’s all over. Secure angle iron, 4x4’s, 2x4’s, or whatever you have to the nose of your vehicle. Do not worry about the damage to your vehicle since that is the least of your worries. A V-plow design works best as it will “cut through” the mob. You can spend time barricading the windows, but no at the expense of weighing your vehicle down too much. Small cars should less than 500 pounds of fortification attached to them. The shocks need ample room to rebound after rolling over bodies, and acceleration is greatly reduced. Your goal is a quick plow and then outrunning the masses.
Once these measures have been taken, you need to go to the roof. Preferable, the roof entrance/exit should be connecting to the garage. This can easily be created with a standard axe. Once you are on the roof, you should survey the situation BEFORE you start plugging away at the walking dead. If you have family members with you, one should ALWAYS be in the house maintaining the houses integrity. 2-way radios will help communication between the roof-man and the house-man (or woman).
When all T’s are crossed and I’s dotted, you enter the maintenance stage. During this stage you should ration out the food and create a timeline. If the phones are still active, only now do you attempt to contact loved ones. The best thing to do is sit and wait. However, food supply will dictate the duration of your maintenance stage and your next move.
There are only two situations that should force you from your compound: food or the undeniable end. If it is for food, the scenario works best with 4 people. One remains on the roof as a lookout, both for the best departure time and when the food-runners return. One remains in the garage. This person will need to open the garage door if it is not automatic. If the door is automatic, then you still need a gunman when the food runners return. Two should leave in the vehicle. The driver never gets out. The other is the runner who must go into a store, retrieve food, and return.
If it is the undeniable end, everyone must go. Chances are you will not be able to return. Plan a destination that is feasible to reach with the amount of fuel you have. Do not depend on a gas station being open. Everyone other than the driver should be armed (preferable with a shotgun) and ready to shoot oncoming zombies. Expect express ways to be blocked, particularly the on and off ramps, so be aware of back-road possibilities. Your destination should be something better than what you are leaving. Do not drive blind. If you are lucky enough to live in the northern part of the US, head further north. The populations are lower, the temperatures lower, and the possibilities greater. However, avoid passing large cities as there is likely to be millions of zombies. And avoid bridges that enter into other countries (Canada) or Upper Peninsulas (Michigan). They will most likely be blocked by those who live on the other side in hopes of protecting their own land.
Last, but not least, have mêlée weapons. At some point you will need them. Broad swords are best as they can take a head off with one swipe. But if you are using this weapon, it is really only a matter of time before you are overrun. Kiss your wife good bye, chop off her head, and then run the sword through the bottom of your jaw upwards through your brain. You can use the weight of your body to accomplish this.
I hope this helps.
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"Land of the Dead" is on HBO On Demand right now.
madmike
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Speaking of flaming, flamethrowers are great on zombies, and are legally not weapons. Stock up. You can improvise from industrial yard sprayers.
And why do you have clips if you shoot Glocks? Mausers take clips. Glocks take magazines.
And why do you have clips if you shoot Glocks? Mausers take clips. Glocks take magazines.
Jrsmith
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Dunno if this has been mentioned... but I'd go with 40mm grenades ala the HK GMG
http://hkpro.com/gmg.htm
http://hkpro.com/gmg.htm
Metapotent
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johnmcl said:
What??? Did you seriously just say that? That is blasphemy of the highest caliber and I will not tolerate such disgusting language from a fellow American.
Apologize immediately. (being slightly melodramatic, but nonetheless appauled)
What??? Did you seriously just say that? That is blasphemy of the highest caliber and I will not tolerate such disgusting language from a fellow American.
Apologize immediately. (being slightly melodramatic, but nonetheless appauled)
And here I thought magazines were only for rifles.
Like I said, I'm new to this. If magazines is what they are called, I will never make the mistake of calling them clips again. Huh...you learn something new every day. Excuse my ignorance, even though there is no excuse.:banghead:
madmike
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No sweat.
A clip is a metal strap that holds ammo, like strippers or chargers for the M16, the Garand's en bloc clip, the Mauser Broomhandle pistol and certain other weapons. (Clip, charger, stripper clip and en bloc are not the same thing, but they are related and are few enough they're generally all called clips.)
A magazine contains a spring to feed the ammunition, as well as holding the ammo.
Technically, a Glock is fed from a detacheable box magazine.
A clip is a metal strap that holds ammo, like strippers or chargers for the M16, the Garand's en bloc clip, the Mauser Broomhandle pistol and certain other weapons. (Clip, charger, stripper clip and en bloc are not the same thing, but they are related and are few enough they're generally all called clips.)
A magazine contains a spring to feed the ammunition, as well as holding the ammo.
Technically, a Glock is fed from a detacheable box magazine.
GW
Member
THAT must have been awkward. Well this tosses out the idea of going hand in hand or even arm in arm to the future, but that was really a metaphor. As for understanding them, I applaud your zeal for reaching out to them, but I must caution you on wishing we were more like the French; There ARE limits.
After all what position did the French take on terrorism?
The FETAL position!
bigj8550
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12 GAUGE 00 MAG BUCKSHOT OR MAYBE SLUGS
If that don't do it than I don't know what will
If that don't do it than I don't know what willRealistic - 12ga Mossberg 500 under the bed + whatever ammo is in the house at the time - Colt Official Police .38 Spec + whatever ammo is in the house at the time... and for backup (Shaun-style) cricket bat next to the bed
If we're talking *poof* i have whatever I want.. Lightsaber and 2 Han Solo blasters
If we're talking *poof* i have whatever I want.. Lightsaber and 2 Han Solo blasters
madmike
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The 12 gauge autoloader.
The Uzi 9mm
The .45 longslide, with laser sighting
Phased plasma rifle, in 40 watt range
The Uzi 9mm
The .45 longslide, with laser sighting
Phased plasma rifle, in 40 watt range
Dirty Bob
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You need some music!
My caliber of choice: 9mm
With a Kel-Tec Sub-2000 and a pair of P-11s, with a whole slew of mags. Cheap Remington UMC 115-gr. JHP would work very well for cranial ventilations.
Now, you need some music!
Jonathan Coulton has a great anthem for this thread: "Re: Your Brains."
It leads off the podcast at: http://www.odeo.com/audio/1170881/view
You could also go to http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songs and listen for free, or pay a buck to own the MP3. While you're there, try out "Skullcrusher Mountain," and his whiteboy version of the Sir Mixalot classic "Baby Got Back."
Regards,
Dirty Bob
My caliber of choice: 9mm
With a Kel-Tec Sub-2000 and a pair of P-11s, with a whole slew of mags. Cheap Remington UMC 115-gr. JHP would work very well for cranial ventilations.
Now, you need some music!
Jonathan Coulton has a great anthem for this thread: "Re: Your Brains."
It leads off the podcast at: http://www.odeo.com/audio/1170881/view
You could also go to http://www.jonathancoulton.com/songs and listen for free, or pay a buck to own the MP3. While you're there, try out "Skullcrusher Mountain," and his whiteboy version of the Sir Mixalot classic "Baby Got Back."
Regards,
Dirty Bob
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Aggie's Revenge
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Am I the only person thinking Mk 19 with bounding fragmentation grenades?
Carl N. Brown
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"We are seriously in need of another good zombie flick."
Richard Matheson's classic scifi-horror novel
"I am Legend" which has been filmed as
The Last Man on Earth (1964) with Vincent Price
and The Omega Man (1971) with Charlton Heston,
is supposed to be in current production under
the working title "I Am Legend" (wow).
I am hoping it gets done right.
Richard Matheson's classic scifi-horror novel
"I am Legend" which has been filmed as
The Last Man on Earth (1964) with Vincent Price
and The Omega Man (1971) with Charlton Heston,
is supposed to be in current production under
the working title "I Am Legend" (wow).
I am hoping it gets done right.
madmike
Member
Yes, that rumor made the news in 1988, with Schwarzenegger supposed to have the starring role.
It's been 18 years and we're still waiting.
It'd be nice if they're actually doing it now, but I wouldn't get hopes up. The industry pubs are full of it every couple of years. Actually, they're usually full of it.
It's been 18 years and we're still waiting.
It'd be nice if they're actually doing it now, but I wouldn't get hopes up. The industry pubs are full of it every couple of years. Actually, they're usually full of it.
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