Illegal Immigration-How to fix it?

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It seems what is happening right now shows the extent of the disconnect. The house voted for 4437, because they represent specific small communities, rotate every two years and know there would be hell to pay.

Our 100 Peers of the Land by contrast care not because they know there would be enough dittoheads to reelect them, especially by the time the damage is done. They count on it. What do they care anyway? They consider themselves well-insulated from any trouble by their wealth, gated communities, private bodyguards, and a retinue of lawyers. What happens to the unwashed peasants is completely irrelevant. In that, they have revealed themselves to rival their Mexican counterparts. Notice the disappearing illusion of partisan differences. You can't tell one traitor from another with a score card.

I fear by the time your average Joe understands what is being done to the country, it may very well be too late. On the other hand, the minutemen and the explosion of membership at places like NumbersUSA does show that people are waking up. It remains to be seen if that would happen fast enough.
 
Connie Hair, spokeswoman for the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, said that Minutemen had reported 591 sightings of suspected illegal immigrants to the U.S. Border Patrol from Saturday, when the monthlong operation south of Three Points began, through early afternoon Wednesday.

She said the calls resulted in 203 apprehensions by the U.S. Border Patrol
So, they're reporting three times as many as there are. :rolleyes:
 
I think talk radio IS getting the word out (which is why talk radio is on the hit list in the time to come). Our job should be to let as many people as possible realize what's really going down, using the blunt language of reality. I think the consciousness is spreading; what's lacking is political organization and political representatives to counter what's happening.
 
Talk radio, in Spanish, mobilized 600,000 in three days with no money and no organization.

In response, with every effort, every "organization", and every dollar available, the opposition has musterered something under 20,000, and none of them are going to assemble in more than about half that.

More than half a million, less than 20,000. Oh, I'm sorry, let's err on the side of conservatism. 40,000.

Okay, let's be sure. 60,000. Wouldn't want to underestimate anything...

Wait, let's give it another week. 70,000.

Times are changing, the future is coming.

You're right, talk radio is part of that future.

Spanish speaking talk radio.

We get stronger every time an immigrant crosses the border. :cool:
 
Talk radio, in Spanish, mobilized 600,000 in three days with no money and no organization.

In response, with every effort, every "organization", and every dollar available, the opposition has musterered something under 20,000, and none of them are going to assemble in more than about half that.

More than half a million, less than 20,000. Oh, I'm sorry, let's err on the side of conservatism. 40,000.

Okay, let's be sure. 60,000. Wouldn't want to underestimate anything...

Wait, let's give it another week. 70,000.

Times are changing, the future is coming.

You're right, talk radio is part of that future.

Spanish speaking talk radio.

We get stronger every time an immigrant crosses the border. :cool:
 
Point one, Spanish speaking radio may have publicized the rallies, but most assuredly did not organize the marches. A lot of money went into the preparation and coordination. Time will tell who and what is ultimately behind the "sudden" appearance of protests but I'll lay money on radical and / or globalists organizations. We'll have to wait for the bloggers to finish their work because main stream media won't ferret out those responsible.

Point two, policy is not generally influence in the US by street protests. Whoever is calling the shots is looking at US politics through European or Latin American eyes which may be a hint as to who is calling the US shots.

Public protesters may have hurt their position by going public.
 
Jammer Six,
You still haven't posted anything resembling proof or evidence that I asked you for.

Your argument smells like excrement which should give us some clue as to its source.
 
Perhaps someone can answer a legal question for me.

I know the US Army isn't really allowed to deploy or operate on US soil except in times of dire emergency. What about the National Guard of various states?
Could the governor of a state deploy the National Guard (assuming they aren't tied up in Iraq :fire: ) to guard and secure the border?

Violence or threat of it has always been an excellent tool when you have something you want to enforce.
 
Jammer Six...

According to the Arizona Republic, on 4-3-6, four 197-foot radio towers that broadcast KMIA-AM (710), a Spanish station in Phoenix, were brought down by vandals with a torch.
The Resistance is growing.:cool:
Having posted this, I do not advocate illegal activities, including illegal border crossings.
Biker
 
Legal immigrant class-action lawsuit?

I have a close friend who immigrated legally, filling out hundreds of forms, paying a lot of money (example: $500 for an AIDS test) and waiting for days in various offices. He is furious at the prospect of current illegal immigrants getting any form of amnesty. I do not blame him.

My question: Could legal immigrants file a class action lawsuit if amnesty is granted?
 
Hi Biker-

Vandals using a cutting torch on Spanish-language-only radio antennae! What a crime. I hope the resources we use to capture those people is similar to the amount of resources that O.J. Simpson spent to find the "real killers" of Nicole Brown & Ron Goldman a few years ago.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
I have a close friend who immigrated legally, filling out hundreds of forms, paying a lot of money

$6000 the last time I counted.
Worth every last cent.

But litigation isn't the answer, certainly not a class action suit anyway.
The cost would just be transferred to the taxpayer if the plaintiffs won.

Instead we need to address the lawmakers at election time.


(I said I wouldn't post in this sub-forum, so feel free to imagine I said whatever you wanted to hear.)
 
Blue Jays...

The culprits who perped this crime should be punished as harshly as are the vandals who 'tag' neighborhoods with spray paint.
Thanks to the hooligans who brought down these towers, it may be difficult for the organisers of the next Million Illegal March to get their message out.
It jus' ain't right.
Hang 'em high...
Biker
 
According to the Arizona Republic, on 4-3-6, four 197-foot radio towers that broadcast KMIA-AM (710), a Spanish station in Phoenix, were brought down by vandals with a torch.
The Resistance is growing.
Having posted this, I do not advocate illegal activities, including illegal border crossings.
Biker

Excellent!
 
Sounds more like he was deported to save medical expenses on tax payers and an arret warrant wil be issued if he is caught back in the US. Places the US in a Catch 22. You arrest him and the taxpayers will bear the costs for medical and a long term jail sentence, then deportation. You deport him and taxpayers avoid the costs. This just cuts to the chase.
 
Spartacus...

Please, do not glorify these American Resistance Fighters, it will only encourage others like them.:)
Biker
 
He was sent to Mexico. Would you rather he be allowed to stay in this country to await trial? Do you want illegals to stay here or not?
 
FEMA declares a national emergency due to the threatened Latino May Day strike. In case of power outages they are suggesting the use of emergency generators. FEMA contacted McDonald’s to ask if they could provide mobile food units to the field workers. McDonald’s said they are on their own because they only have a commitment of a total of ten workers company wide showing up on May 1st. Two of those workers are the CEO & CFO of McDonald’s….and they ain’t slinging no hamburgers! The remaining eight workers refused to be identified.;)
 
To start, no damages and governmental immunity would bar suit. Those granted amnesty would still have to pay their fees. It's not "poof" your a citizen.
 
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