Illegal Immigration opponent creates stir at Cinco de Mayo celebration

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Crazed ss said: "This guy is just trying to rile people up so he can have an excuse to shoot some brown people. "

He OBVIOUSLY wan't looking for an excuse to shoot "some brown people" (what a racist remark) or he would have gone INTO the park.

How is his "trying to rile people up" any different than the May 1st strike...which DID feature a lot of illegal aliens?????

It works both ways pal.
 
Once again.. what does illegal immigration have to do with people trying to enjoy a day in the park? I could understand if these people were having some kind of demonstration.. but they werent.

This guy reminds me of those jerkoffs who go protesting at military funerals. Sure, they're well within their rights to protest and say whatever they want, but the venue they choose is completley inappropriate IMO. Just because something is legal, doesnt mean it is right.

EDIT: hube1236, great post man.. agreed almost 100%
 
It seems to me that the term Illegal Aliens or Illegal Immigrants just isn't cutting it anymore.

How about Criminal Intruders or Criminal Invaders? Anyone else have any ideas?
 
Tucson Police say it is legal to burn a Mexican flag though it must be done inside of a grill, otherwise it is considered reckless burning.

Huh?!?

Do the Tuscon Police apply the same standard to burning the American flag?


P.S. One kilo-post!
 
I have a unique perspective

Being a LEGAL immigrant to this country, I am a first generation American.

I speak fluent, unaccented english.
I work hard for my money, and I don't rely on social services.
I pay all my bills.
I paid for my own secondary education (through student loans yes, but I have no choice BUT to repay those, and not because of the legal requirements, but because I made a promise to repay those)
I am considering joining the military to pay for medical school, but I will repay that by giving 5 years of active duty after I graduate medical school.
I swore an oath, before a judge, to protect and defend this country's constitution, against all enemies, both foreign and domestic.
I stand and place my hand over my heart when I hear the national anthem.
I :cuss: near see red when I hear about someone singing it in a foreign language.
I get *really* pissed off when I see these human leeches (regardless of country of origin, including other Americans) sucking the welfare system dry.
If I had my druthers, we'd build a fifteen foot tall concrete wall from the Gulf of Mexico to the Pacific Ocean.

*I* am an American, and #$_% proud of it. Don't piss on my country.

You'll forgive me if I'm a little passionate when I see this flood of invaders coming across our souther borders. I agree that they're not the only ones, but they're the vast majority.

Personally, I think we should fine any company that knowingly hires illegal aliens $100,000 PER illegal. That also means that our government needs to provide a SECURE, ACCURATE means of verifying someone's legal status. And finally, after we build that wall, we immediately deport any illegal alien found in our country. Boot them out, and boot them out FAST.
 
"Celebrating"?!

What were you watching?

I saw mobs of thousands wearing CHE T-Shirts, waving clenched fists, and carrying signs saying in essence, "this is OUR land, you Gringos better get the F$#@ out!"

Those aren't migrants, or people who want to be American citizens; that is an invading army.

Bush refuses to deal with it, Democrats want millions of pre-socialized fraudulent voters, Big Business wants cheap, uncomplaining labor. THEY win; YOUR taxes go up, and your local hospital closes down because of the increased burden of illegal aliens with everything from sniffles, to stab wounds, to tuberculosis.

The race hustlers think that US citizens will just shut up and suck our thumbs, and finance our own displacement, if they just call us RACISTS, and XENOPHOBES every minute of every day.

I remember laughing at neo-nazis who predicted this country would eventually degenerate into all out racial civil war. Is anybody laughing so hard at that idea today?

If we don't enforce the laws, and secure the borders, NOW, I really can see that eventuality coming to pass.

I'm a citizen, I'm not leaving.

This land is mine.


--Travis--
 
Where did anyone suggest we shouldnt enforce laws or secure the borders?
Where did anyone say you should leave?
Where did anyone say this isnt your land?


Do you even know what this tread is about?

HINT: It's not about the May 1st protests.

Read this article that prompted the thread.
http://kvoa.com/Global/story.asp?S=4870082

Read some of the posts in the thread pertaining the the article.

Try your post again.
 
And no one is suggesting that you should not feel passionate about the topic. The first time one of "them" draws down and fires a shot, then the dude in the park is justified with his actions. What he was doing was spoiling for a fight. Nazis can march in the middle of Jewish neighborhoods and let everyone know how fascism is wonderful- but they can not incite a riot by saying let's get another 6 million. As distasteful as the message is, it is still a valid message.

Some of the calmer folks are replying to this thread and the dual enforcement is the proper way to go. Get them, get our companies employing them. Workfare.

I will guarantee you something, talks of invading armies turn people off. If you want to address this topic with fence sitters, talk about making livable wages for all workers- force (if necessary) those on the public dime to clean the toilets, force the managing firm of the Sears tower to hire locals, and if they can't pay out that livable wage (and benefits) then use the govt to subsidize where necessary. It is not socializm, but it is a reality. You are paying both the welfare person to stay at home at $6.00 an hour and the Mexican to work for $4/an hour. Pay the welfare person $4 privately and subsidize if necessary the other $2. We get citizens working- where right now they get the benefits sitting on their butts, and we reduce demand for illegals.

Are they an invading army- yes and no. But talking of armed repulsion is not going to happen- there is too much money in it for the GOP and DEMs. Start enforcing the law at the local level- when the load mouth socialists in NYC and LA start seeing the scope of the Aztec Wave and seeing that they aren't all "good, hard working folks" you may get something.

If you think the AFL-CIO is not licking thier chops over this one- go to their discussion groups- they see this as a huge influx of cash in dues as their base is eroding. Wait until the illegals unionize. IT WILL HAPPEN. Is it then we try to take those living in Compton and try training them for work?

Grab the guns when it is time, but we have many alternatives before then.

Look at the left's embracement of France- the pinnacle of socializm- their economy is only grown 3% in the last five years and unemployment in their immgrant neighborhoods is up to 60%. The riots. This will happen here- you just got to convince the lefties it is not about throwing benefits to keep people happy- they never will be.

Dan

PS and besides Cinco De Mayo is all about frozen margaritas and hitting on your college aged daughters and their lower back tattoos that covers a little too much baby fat.

:)
 
Biker wrote:
"I don't see 20 million Irishmen demanding rights that aren't owed to them, marching down American streets waving their flag. Last I checked, there are about 30,000 illegal Irish folk in the US.
The Buzzard flag was made for burning."

sorry to respond to this so late in the post but i found this on the internet.

http://www.irishlobbyusa.org/press/irishtimesmarch9.php

so its not just an illegal mexican problem

Brother in Arms
 
Tucson Police say it is legal to burn a Mexican flag though it must be done inside of a grill, otherwise it is considered reckless burning.
But one can burn an american flag anywhere!!!!!!!!:barf: :cuss:
 
Biker
My only point is that there are some illegal irish in this country who are the same way and they are pro mexican illegal immagration because they can reap the same benefits. In fact I have read that they irish government is giving money to pro illegal imagration groups to help "undocumented irish".

I am not disagrering with what you wrote just bringing some information about other illegal aliens in the country.

Brother in Arms
 
by Crazed ss, Where does it say that?
Haven't you watched protests on TV in the last 20yrs? I've seen many people burning the american flag with the LEO's standing by not arresting them for it.
No it probably doesn't say one can burn a flag. Our laws mention what you can't do not what you can do. But to me that doesn't mean it's ok. I think it's a moral issue. In todays world it seems having morals and ethics is wrong.
 
Charlie Daniels outlook

Any one have any Mexican Flag TP if we cant bun it lets put it where it will be of use.:evil:

By Charlie Daniels www.charliedaniels.com

I don’t know how everybody else feels about it, but to me, I think Hispanic people in this country, legally or illegally, made a huge public relations mistake with their recent demonstrations.

I don’t blame anybody in the world for wanting to come to the United States of America, as it is a truly wonderful place. But when the first thing you do when
you set foot on American soil is illegal, it is flat out wrong and I don’t care how many
la-la land left heads come out of the woodwork and start trying to give me sensitivity
lessons.

I don’t need sensitivity lessons, in fact I don’t have anything against Mexicans,
I just have something against criminals and anybody who comes into this country
illegally is a criminal and if you don’t believe it, try coming into America from a
foreign country without a passport and see how far you get.

What disturbs me about the demonstrations is that it’s tantamount to saying,
“I am going to come into your country even if it means breaking your laws and
there’s nothing you can do about it.”

It’s an “in your face” action and speaking just for me I don’t like it one little bit and if
there were a half dozen pairs of gonads in Washington bigger than English peas it
wouldn’t be happening.

Where are you, you bunch of lilly livered, pantywaist, forked tongued, sorry excuses
for defenders of The Constitution? Have you been drinking the water out of the
Potomac again?

And even if you pass a bill on immigration it will probably be so pork laden and
watered down that it won’t mean anything anyway. Besides, what good is another
law going to do when you won’t enforce the ones on the books now?

And what ever happened to the polls guys? I thought you folks were the
quintessential finger wetters. Well you sure ain’t paying any attention to the
polls this
time because somewhere around eighty percent of Americans want something done about this mess, and mess it is, and getting bigger everyday.

This is no longer a problem, it is a dilemma and headed for being a tragedy. Do you
honestly think that what happened in France with the Muslims can’t happen here
when the businesses who hire these people finally run out of jobs and a few million
disillusioned Hispanics take to the streets?

If you, Mr. President Bush, Congressmen and Senators, knuckle under on this and refuse to do something meaningful it means that you care nothing for the kind of country
your children and grandchildren will inherit.

But I guess that doesn’t matter as long as you get re-elected.

Shame on you.

One of the big problems in America today is that if you have the nerve to say anything derogatory about any group of people (except
Christians) you are going to be screamed at by the media and called
a racist, a bigot and anything else they can think of to call you.

Well I’ve been pounded by the media before and I’m still rockin’
and rollin’ and when it comes to speaking the truth, I fear not.
> And the truth is that the gutless, gonadless, milksop politicians
are just about to sell out the United States of America because
they don’t have the intestinal fortitude to stand up to face reality.

And reality is that we would never allow any other group of people
to have 12 million illegals in this country and turn around and
say, ”Oh it’s ok, ya'll can stay here if you’ll just allow us to
slap your wrist.”

And I know that some of you who read this column are saying “Well
what’s wrong with that?”

I’ll tell you what’s wrong with it. These people could be from Mars
as far as we know. We don’t know who they are, where they are or
what they’re up to and the way the Congress is going we’re not
going to.

Does this make sense? Labor force you say? We already subsidize
corporate agriculture as it is, must we subsidize their labor as
well?

If these people were from Haiti, would we be so fast to turn a
blind eye to them or if they were from Somalia or Afghanistan? I
think not.

All the media shows us are pictures of hard working Hispanics who
have crossed the border just to try to better their life. They
don’t show you pictures of the Feds rounding up members of MS 13,
the violent gang who came across the same way the decent folks did.
They don’t tell you about the living conditions of the Mexican
illegals some fat cat hired to pick his crop.

I want to make two predictions.

No. 1: This situation is going to grow and fester until it erupts
in violence on our streets while the wimps in Washington drag their
toes in the dirt and try to figure how many tons of political hay
they can make to the acre.

No 2: Somebody is going to cross that border with some kind of
weapon of mass destruction and set it off in a major American city
after which there will be a backlash such as this country has never
experienced and the Capitol building in Washington will probably
tilt as Congressmen and Senators rush to the other side of the issue.

I don’t know about you but I would love to see just one major
politician stand up and say, “I don’t care who I make mad and I
don’t care how many votes I lose, this is a desperate situation and
I’m going to lead the fight to get it straightened out.”

I don’t blame anybody for wanting to come to America, but if you
don’t respect our immigration laws why should you respect any
others. And by the way, this is America and our flag has stars and
stripes. Please get that other one out of my face.

Pray for our troops

What do you think?

God Bless America
Charlie Daniels
April 10, 2006
 
His methods were unsound, but I am glad people are starting to stand up and be vocal about this issue.

It's getting bad. My TINY little town has changed quite drastically in the last year due to illeagls (Some living 30 to a house) in my sleeply little town.



and major kudos to Charlie Daniels.........................
 
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