Here's the thing...
Any time we discuss states like CT or NY, several of us make a statement along the lines of "you guys in NY should move away. There's room in Texas."
As danez71 has pointed out a few times, it's hard to win rights back when you don't stay and try to win them back. Logic would also suggest that it would be easier to win rights back if you have more angry, howling gun owners in a state writing more letters, spending more money, and casting more votes to remove anti-gun politicians from office.
So are we doing this wrong?
If we want to start and win rights back, should we start moving to areas with harsh gun control and using that as a form of activism to convert them back?
How many people would it take?
Would you do it, even just for a year or two?
I'm thinking that given Colorado voters' irritation and their willingness to unseat anti-gun legislators, it may be the best state to start with... if we could somehow organize enough people to try this.
Is this idea even the slightest bit practical?
Ahhh.. I'm honored.
All of those people saying to move out are basically saying "Vote with your Wallet". They also say "you voted them in - you need vote them out.. Well... it would stand to reason that if all those pro 2A'ers moved into the anti states and spent their money and VOTED they could change the majority and by VOTING.
Is it practical? Not really for most people. But at least the idea is logical because
if people moved out... they cant vote those politicians out.
Let take a look at some of the others posts now.....
In Colorado, gun control became a legislative issue because a bunch of Californians transplanted themselves there, and started voting the same way. The reason pot is legal and magazines are restricted is not because patriots left, but because antis moved in.
And you know this ... how? Any evidence?
Do you really think that other people are going to believe that 50% or more of CO's 5million population are CA transplants?
According to census and demographic info, CO gets less than 50k CA transplants a year.
Using simple #'s, 50k CA's would have had to moved to CO EVERY YEAR FOR THE LAST 50 YRS and CO would have had to have ZERO internal/native population growth during those same 50 yrs.
Hogwash.
People need to stop trying to blame someone else. Enough. Its doesn't to a dang thing to help or fix anything.
(side note in regards to pot, according to the latest #'s, about 60% of the US
population favors legalizing pot. The reason CO legalized it is because popular opinion in CO, just as the rest of the US's, of pot has changed. Face it, 50%-60% of the US population isn't from CA.)
If I would move to say NJ. A house there would cost me 3 times of what it cost here. Plus property taxes are $10,000 to $15,000 there. I would have to sell my firearms and get a second job or two just to afford just to live there....no thanks...
False. Seriously, do you think, and expect everyone else to believe that all of NJ property owners are holding 2-3 jobs?
Lets look at a fact. From
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2013/10/which_15_nj_towns_have_the_highest_property_taxes.html
"The average property tax bill in New Jersey rose 1.6 percent last year, from $7,759 to $7,885, according to data from the state Department of Community Affairs."
When the elected elite rule the people instead of representing them, adding more people to their rule will not dictate their policies.
Or... when the house is on fire, you evacuate, not invite people inside in hopes that the bodies smother the flames.
That sounds clever but its WRONG.
1st off, politics is no more like fire then shoelaces are to jello.
Did you forget that those politicians were voted in? And so many here say "you need to vote them out"?
Simple logic says you need a voting majority in order to vote politicians out.
I you want to fight slavery, do you sell yourself into it? If addiction is an evil, start shooting up?
The idea is to get away from the source of the problem, which usually stems from the attitudes of the masses around you. .
Slaves couldn't vote at the time so that's little sound bite is irrelevant. And addiction has nothing to do with anything here. Again, a clever saying with ZERO relevance.
Apparently too many here on THR have forgotten that...
The US was
founded because people ran away and left,... HOWEVER, the Constitution came to be because WE STOPED RUNNING AND STOOD UP AND FOUGHT for our Rights.
the whole proposition of this post is absurd. Example: New York:
Democratic: 5,507,928 (59.1%)
Republican: 3,130,122 (33.6%)
Using your #'s..... It would take FEWER people moving into NY than those needing to move out.
Using the 'move in' theory, you be able to vote those politicians out.
Isnt that the goal?
Everyone here needs to ask themselves 1 question.
Is the goal to get more states to support the 2A or to voluntarily handover to the Anti's one state at a time?
Now.. don't get me wrong. At the top of this post I said its not practical. However, it makes more sense than the everyone leaving those states.
In the U.S., a Right was never gained/reclaimed by running. Its because we stood up and fought.
