Is anyone coming out with an AK-47 in 300 Blackout

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Off the top of my head, I'm pretty sure the CT ban list just specifies "Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type"...and from my understanding from talking to multiple long-time gunnies and gun store owners locally in person and on CT gun forums, it's pretty much a blanket statement covering any and all variants of 7.62x39 AKs, even if its a Saiga. VZ58s, however, are fine seeing as though they're only similar to AK47s in appearance, and AK74s are allowed, since they're obviously in a different caliber.
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If someone can pull the actual wording of that law and post it here, I'd appreciate it.
 
ASSAULT WEAPON

"Assault weapon" means any one of the following:

1. Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or any of the following specified semiautomatic firearms: Algimec Agmi; Armalite AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol; Auto-Ordnance Thompson type; Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model 82A1; Beretta AR-70; Bushmaster Auto Rifle and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950 and 100-P; Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max-1 and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and Mini-AT; Federal XC-900 and XC-450; Franchi SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM; Goncz High-Tech Carbine and High-Tech Long Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94 and SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11 Carbien type; Intratec TEC-9 and Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000; Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock model only; Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 Series; Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto Pistol; Springfield Armory BM59, SAR-48 and G-3; Sterling MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr AUG; Street Sweeper and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns; USAS-12; USI Carbine, Mini-Carbine and Pistol; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson "Linda" Pistol.

2. A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (1) or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon as defined in subdivision (1) may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

3. Any semiautomatic firearm not listed in subdivision (1) that meets the following criteria:

(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

i. a folding or telescopic stock;

ii. a pistol grip;

iii. a bayonet mount;

iv. a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

v. a grenade launcher.

(B) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

i. an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

ii. a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer;

iii. a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

iv. a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

v. a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.

(C) A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

i. a folding or telescoping stock;

ii. a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

iii. a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and

iv. an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

4. A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3), or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3), may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

Source: General Statutes § 53-202a (a) (applies to §§ 53-202b -- 202k).

Commentary: The term "assault weapon" does not include any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable. General Statutes § 53-202a
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Here it is, in all it's.... glory...
 
it would ruin the 300 blackout's reputation before it's able to get its feet wet in the consumer market.

it would instantly double the size of the list of "inherently innaccurate" cartridges.
 
Why suppress an AK when just about everything else is less noisy? The gas vent on my WASR is just plain loud. I loaded subsonic ammo for it and still needed ear plugs when shooting it suppressed.

Ranb
 
i sure as hell hope no ones making an AK in .300 AAC blackout.. that would be a fairly large performance drop over the 7.62 thats already used.. and for what?.. a cartridge thats barely useful for more than supressive fire?... id much rather see an AK rebarreled in something useful and not another specialty one-trick cartridge

7.62x39 makes significantly more than 5.56, and .300 aac blackout produces LESS energy than 5.56... i cant imagine why anyone would neuter an AK? if youre going to rechamber an AK for something newer... 6.5 grendel only requires a barrel change.. and 6.8mm SPC would only need the bolt face of a 5.56mm bolt machined out a bit to convert that and both rounds are superior to the blackout, produce the same energy as a 7.62x39, but have a flatter trajectory due to higher velocites with a higher BC bullet

(btw, i am going to be converting a 5.56mm AK to 6.8mm SPC, but again, a useful cartridge)
 
There were rumors of 6.5 grendel saigas being imported as well as 6.5 wolf ammo. That is an AK I would have bought. A 300 ACC in the AK platform is not something that makes a lot of sense to me.
 
Well I would like one. Remember the .308 bullet has a better ballistic coefficient readily available and works subsonic out of it, I don't think a subsonic AK would.
 
3006mv said:
Well I would like one. Remember the .308 bullet has a better ballistic coefficient readily available and works subsonic out of it, I don't think a subsonic AK would.
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umm.. you can load a 7.62x39mm to be subsonic, and with subsonic you wont have more more than 50 yards range anyway... also, ive seen a number of 7.62x39mm barrels actually use a .308 caliber bullet since .308 blacks are easier to come by
 
Girodin said:
There were rumors of 6.5 grendel saigas being imported as well as 6.5 wolf ammo. That is an AK I would have bought. A 300 ACC in the AK platform is not something that makes a lot of sense to me.
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you would need new magazines for 6.5 grendel... sure they share the same base diamter and rim as the 7.62x39, but not the taper, mag takes on too much of a banana shape for the grendel to be reliable in these magazines... and a bit fat for the 5.56mm magazines
 
Why not start with a forged receiver gun, and rebarrel an AK for the 6mm PPC? I'd like to see how accurate an AK COULD be. Since the 6mm PPC is based on the Russian case, it should be easy.
 
SharpsDressedMan said:
Why not start with a forged receiver gun, and rebarrel an AK for the 6mm PPC? I'd like to see how accurate an AK COULD be. Since the 6mm PPC is based on the Russian case, it should be easy.
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6.5 grendel uses the 7.62x39mm base and rim... should start with that, but AK barrels are very light contoured, causes a lot of flex which throws accuracy off, first step would be to go with a larger contour, like an RPK contour... and free-float the barrel as much as possible by combining the gas block and front sight and free floating the handguard
 
The 300 blackout will definitely die out. All the reasons previously given. What is with so many trying to make the ak into a decent rifle? Is it "trying to be different"? I think there is a perceived "cool factor" to the "look" of the weapon that makes it as popular as it is. Any halfway serious shooter/marksman that has a choice or knows the difference could not want to use an AK. (My narrow minded opinion of course)
 
Casefull said:
The 300 blackout will definitely die out. All the reasons previously given. What is with so many trying to make the ak into a decent rifle? Is it "trying to be different"? I think there is a perceived "cool factor" to the "look" of the weapon that makes it as popular as it is. Any halfway serious shooter/marksman that has a choice or knows the difference could not want to use an AK. (My narrow minded opinion of course)
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very narrow minded indeed
 
Casefull said:
The 300 blackout will definitely die out. All the reasons previously given. What is with so many trying to make the ak into a decent rifle? Is it "trying to be different"? I think there is a perceived "cool factor" to the "look" of the weapon that makes it as popular as it is. Any halfway serious shooter/marksman that has a choice or knows the difference could not want to use an AK. (My narrow minded opinion of course)
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Really? I mean, really.
 
"umm.. you can load a 7.62x39mm to be subsonic, and with subsonic you wont have more more than 50 yards range anyway... also, ive seen a number of 7.62x39mm barrels actually use a .308 caliber bullet since .308 blacks are easier to come by" jason41987


Do you know first hand if a subsonic 7.62x39 will cycle and feed another in an AK?
Range beyond 50yards will still kill a hog.
.308Blacks are same as any other .308 bullet.
 
A subsonic .30 has to have a faster twist barrel for optimum performance, and the Soviets had a 9x39mm subsonic round designed for AK use, which would be better yet. And note this: with the right optics, .300 Whisper/Blackout, etc, can be a 400 yard rifle, and packs as much energy at that range as .45ACP at the muzzle.
 
3006mv said:
"umm.. you can load a 7.62x39mm to be subsonic, and with subsonic you wont have more more than 50 yards range anyway... also, ive seen a number of 7.62x39mm barrels actually use a .308 caliber bullet since .308 blacks are easier to come by" jason41987


Do you know first hand if a subsonic 7.62x39 will cycle and feed another in an AK?
Range beyond 50yards will still kill a hog.
.308Blacks are same as any other .308 bullet.
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you cant get a 7.62x39mm to cycle well in an AR15 though... russians decided to go with a tapered cartridge due to its increased reliability in both chambering and extraction... and the AR15s straight, restrictive, magwell doesnt like that... so people have been re-engineering cartridges that carry the same flaws the AR15 was designed with so that theyll work OK together
 
7.62x39 makes significantly more than 5.56, and .300 aac blackout produces LESS energy than 5.56...
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The 125 grain 300 BLK at 2215 fps beats any 5.56 load but still falls a bit short of the 7.63x39. I can stabilize a subsonic 180 grain bullet in my WASR-10, but my 300 whisper will stabilize a subsonic 240 grain bullet and way out-perform it in accuracy, power and noise level.
 
umm.. you can load a 7.62x39mm to be subsonic, and with subsonic you wont have more more than 50 yards range anyway
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I think you left off a zero from your figure. I have no problem with targets 200 yards and less with subsonic 30 cal. With my scope dialed in 550 yards is very doable also.

Ranb
 
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